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<0> well, it's easy to make it spam, even if I add timers
<0> because it doesn't wait for the first thing to run before it runs a new instance
<1> kbrooks, I can admit I'm new and I'm doing something wrong, but I think I'm being fair that with that code, the mention of 2 or 3 args is not helpful.
<2> halley,
<2> import Item
<2> cl*** Group (Item):
<0> is there any decently easy way to do that
<2> WRONG
<2> Item.Item
<2> # Antic/__item__.py
<2> __all__ = [ 'Store', 'Item', 'Core' ]
<2> Do you mean __init__.py?
<1> Er, yeah, __init__.py
<2> halley, ls -l Antic
<1> $ ls -l Antic/
<1> total 16
<1> -rw-rw-r-- 1 halley halley 115 2006-02-20 19:00 Core.py
<1> -rw-rw-r-- 1 halley halley 59 2006-02-20 18:58 __init__.py
<1> -rw-rw-r-- 1 halley halley 90 2006-02-20 18:58 Item.py
<1> -rw-rw-r-- 1 halley halley 68 2006-02-20 18:59 Store.py
<2> just checkng
<2> you shouldnt subcl*** modules
<1> I don't want to subcl*** modules. I don't want the name of the cl*** to be Item.Item either.
<1> Why must filenames become part of symbols when I split things up?
<3> halley "from Item import Item"
<2> halley, get to the damn problem and solve it, damn it
<1> kbrooks, can you get maybe just a little less ***holish if you're trying to help someone?
<2> halley, aso, sys.path ALREADY INCLUDES .
<1> Thanks Zalamander.
<3> np
<1> I thought I tried that in my larger real code, lemme put that back in and try it.
<2> halley, i am TRYING to help you. but you'renot helping me by ayttempting to solve the problem.
<2> halley, module.attribute
<2> halley, so Item.Item
<1> Shouting "WRONG" and talking about things in terms of some mystical understanding of python internals that newcomers don't yet understand doesn't help.
<4> New question: I have two lists. The first is four numbers long and the second two. I want to add the second list with the latter half of the first list. [0,0,0,0] and [2,3] to get [0,0,2,3].
<2> Item is the module, and Item is the attribute
<4> er newb question.
<2> halley, this is not python internals. this is reality.
<2> halley, import Item does not get everything from the Item module.
<2> Do you understand?
<3> eugman you can use "slice ***ignment", like so: first[-len(second):] = second
<5> eugman: is the first list always four elements?
<4> yes
<5> first[2:] + second
<4> perfect thanks.
<1> Zalamander, thanks again, that works fine.
<1> I must have not tried the from Item import Item properly.
<1> Nobody has yet explained why the error mentions 2 or 3 arguments, but whatever. :)
<3> halley modules have "__init__" methods, and one was being called in your code with the wrong number of arguments
<6> some path problems here... I have a package tree, like A/B/X, A/B/Y, A/B/Z, etc... inside X, Y and Z I have an images directory, where are stored some images loaded with PIL and used by the main code at A... if on the modules inside X, Y, Z I use the relative path, ./images, I get a path error when importing them and using the modules from A... how to solve this ?
<1> Ah, so if I don't have a file-scope 'def __init__' there is one made for me?
<3> halley yes
<1> That makes sense, sorta. What args does it take, normally?
<3> halley normally, one doesn't create module-level __init__'s, and doesn't call them, and doesn't worry about them. So I don't know.
<3> halley you were accidently calling one, so ... ;-)
<1> Because my cl*** name happened to match the module name.
<3> yep
<1> Okay, that was helpful.
<1> From the caller's point of view, it will look like cl*** Antic.Item, right?
<1> Not Antic.Item.Item?
<3> if you have "from Item import Item", yes. That puts the cl*** Item, from the module Item, into the module Antic's namespace
<5> I think Zalamander is mistaken about what's happening
<3> quite possible :-)
<5> it's not a particular module's __init__, but the __init__ of the module type itself
<1> That fits with the message: it loads a new file, it makes an internal instance of cl*** module. Right?
<5> right
<2> right ... but you can't see "module" as a builtin
<2> i think
<5> no
<2> deltab, ?
<1> >>> s = Store()
<1> Traceback (most recent call last):
<1> File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
<1> TypeError: 'module' object is not callable
<1> Same if I try s = Antic.Store()
<5> but you can get to it through types.ModuleType or type(any module)
<7> >>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<
<7> http://www.100dollarhomepage.er1.be
<7> >>>Own a piece of internet history<<<
<8> "Requirements: Bachelor's degree (B.A./B.S.) from an accredited college or university; two years of programming experience; or equivalent combination of education and experience; Computer Skills: 1337; Expertise with web programming: (X)HTML, HTTP, Javascript, CSS, XML; Fluency with one or more object-oriented languages, preferably Python; Experience with databases, including SQL; Flexibility to adjust to changes as our organization grows; Proficient in
<8> use of Web authoring tools, HTML and script writing." uhh, 1337 ?
<5> halley: those are modules, not cl***es
<9> 1337=leet=expert
<5> I advise not giving modules names with uppercase letters
<8> right, but something tells me "wendy" at Amor Ministries doesn't know what the hell that means.
<5> and so does PEP 8
<10> NaeRey: aolspeek is strictly forbidden here.
<10> witless: I recommend advertising on the python job board.
<8> Jerub: i'm not advertising.
<9> Jerub, now, witless just asked what 1337 means.
<10> ahh
<8> no, dammit, i was pointing at something amusing.
<2> 1337 1337 1337
<2> kick me if you like
<1> deltab, how can I make it such that the caller deals with cl***es Antic.Store() and completely hides/melts/obscures the module symbols?
<1> A caller shouldn't have to understand the internal layout of a package.
<10> sorry, just about every alarm went off.
<11> 3....2....1... ;)
<2> witless, are you saying that saying 1337 in a resume is unprofessional?
<9> Jerub, your client beeps when it hears leetspeek?
<5> halley: have antic/__init__.py import them
<10> NaeRey: no, I just saw a flood followed by leetspeek
<10> ;)
<8> kbrooks: just a bit odd in a job advertisement`
<10> witless: I'm sorry, it just looked odd the way you joined and pasted that.
<2> witless, but is it unprofessional?
<10> witless: I get all sorts here :(
<1> Ooo. So it can do the import Cl*** from Module etc, and it promotes it up a level?
<9> Jerub, flood is 3 lines or more
<8> Jerub: i know, sorry :-)
<2> halley, No .
<9> or wait thats spam...
<11> no, spam's canned ham
<9> cjfs, thats hard with python
<2> NaeRey, flooding != spamming
<10> the definitions are meaningless.
<2> NaeRey, spamming is sending useless, or redundant, things.
<5> spamming involves repetition
<2> deltab, that too.
<9> deltab, not really
<2> flooding involves ... oh how about we drop it?
<2> please.
<2> its over.
<5> okay
<9> spam email is not one that you get 50 times.. its one you don;t need..
<2> Jerub misunderstood. and we cleared it up.
<9> kbrooks, you started it.. but ok
<2> why discuss it any further?
<9> ...
<2> NaeRey, what.
<9> ...anyways, i was looking for something along the lines of "good cl*** tutorial"
<1> # Antic/__item__.py
<1> __all__ = [ 'Store', 'Item', 'Core' ]
<1> from Store import Store
<1> deltab, like that?
<1> Still can't make an Antic.Store() or a Store()
<11> NaeRey: http://docs.python.org/tut/node11.html
<1> Dang, that typo again.
<5> halley: I still advise renaming the modules
<9> cjfs, except that?
<1> deltab, to completely unused names? Fair enough.
<2> no...
<0> can anyone help me with stopping a script from multithreading(as in running more than once at the same time)?
<5> halley: you're using the same name for different things: that can't be helping understand what's happening
<1> deltab, I agree.
<11> NaeRey: what else do you want to know?
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