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<0> there's already a Python wrapper, I'm just not sure how to use it
<1> Your codes essentially needs to take Python types (PyObject*), convert them to C, do your C dirty work, and convert that back to Python objects again.
<1> Its API could be implemented in any sort of way then.
<1> Maybe Crypt_Context is a object now and create is a cl*** method
<0> If I look at the locals after importing the module, it looks like this:
<0> cryptCreateContext
<0> Type: <type 'builtin_function_or_method'>
<0> Value: <built-in function cryptCreateContext>
<1> Find an example using it. You won't guess it that way.
<1> Either that, or read the source or even documentation.
<2> doesn't it have a doc string ? try help(name)
<1> first hit shows some stuff -- http://trevp.net/cryptlibConverter/readme.txt
<1> And describes in detail how the PY API works
<3> can someone advise what to use if i want to write small wiki-like thing, i.e. a cgi script which would allow online editing with wiki-like markup, and putting that into templates?
<4> Hello everyone, I've using java and i'm a hobbyst programmer. I've alreade read something about using python as a non obj-oriented language. Do you have any language that particularly speaks about using python as OBJ-ORIENTES language?
<4> i want to go into python converting some of my java ideas



<4> any doc about object oriented python?
<3> docs at python.org?
<0> try dive into python online
<5> dpt: everything in python is an object
<4> not very interesting the docs at python
<0> google for "dive into python"
<0> it's a good starting point
<4> but i want to define cl***es, read about method, properties...
<4> ok, i'll google that
<4> thanks
<5> BlueAidan: uh, by chance are you using pyopenssl?
<6> When using the os.system() command how can I specify a path to run in?
<4> diveintopython.org/
<2> dpt: like jmob said, in python everything is an object, it's more oo oriented than java :)
<7> is there a place to post useful python scripts?
<3> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Python/Cookbook/
<4> i understand that python is oo but u can not run a java program without creating a cl***! u can do that in python, u can just write print 'hello' that a program in pytjon, not any similar thing exists in java
<3> dpt: "OO" does not necessarily mean that a program entry point is some cl*** method
<8> Anyone know of a Python module that has functions for manipulating data on the bit level?
<3> dpt: python executes your code line by line
<7> what do you think about this script? http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2931
<3> dpt: http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html sounds well
<9> danderson: depending on what you have in mind, python already supports bit-bashing without any special modules
<4> thanks for the links, i'll check them
<8> Pryon: I need things like extracting a sequence of bits from a sequence of bytes (a 5-bit sequence at a given offset in a 2-byte sequence)
<8> and the inverse, setting a subsequence of bits to a given value.
<9> foo & 0x0000001F
<8> hmmm. Right.
<8> Does python do logical-shift-left/right natively as well?
<9> sure
<9> << >>
<8> nice
<8> here I was thinking python wasn't up to bit pushing
<8> How could I ever doubt it :)
<10> dpt: http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html
<11> hi. i'm calling some programs via 'popen4', but unfortunately several particular programs insist writing to a file and not to stdout. is there a trick to 'transform' a file into 'stdout' so the output could be read with the popen handle?
<12> so let's say I have an xml feed of information and I want to graph it, what would be the best graphing python lib out there?
<12> something simple...
<13> howdy
<13> can anyone tell me if there is an implicit loop counter in python?
<13> like $_ in perl
<1> for index, item in enumerate(someList)
<13> ahh ok
<13> thanks
<1> $_ is not an "implicit loop counter" in Perl. It's a variable that gets ***igned things to randomly and from which things that don't know better pick up a value when they feel like it
<13> yeah
<13> but it "can" be used as a counter :P
<6> How do I run an external command so that it doesn't stop execution of the script while runnig?
<13> something like exec probably
<13> start a subprocess
<1> PiranhaP: See the os.spawn* functions.
<6> Erwin: thank you
<14> anyone here going to PyConn?
<4> what is the difference between flat and nested?
<15> one is an English word for apartment, the other is what birds are when they're at home
<16> lol
<15> alternatively, in the context of some sort of threaded conversation, flat tends to mean all posts in order, while nested means threads kept together and indented to show what is a reply to what
<8> the difference being that pythons eat nested birds, whereas birds in your flat are in a cage, and therefore are safe.
<16> how would i make python print a (str)word backwards, ex. "hello" --> "olleh"
<8> whitefeather160: print word[::-1]



<8> or, in python 2.4, print reversed(word)
<17> damn, he beat me to it
<16> thanx
<10> danderson: actually, that's not a string
<10> the latter, I mean
<8> deltab: that's a generator, right?
<10> right
<8> so yeah, the latter is wrong.
<12> anyone here know of a ascii graph generator in python?
<8> overture: I have an advantage: I just googled for the answer to that same question
<17> ah
<18> is there a native python image library ?
<19> You mean the Python Image Library?
<19> :P
<19> http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
<15> :-)
<19> s/Image/Imaging/
<18> Poopsmith: I was just looking at it, but its a commercial product by pythonware
<18> is there native library?
<15> agilman: nah it's free
<16> so ive been learning to program for 2 days now, i chose python because all my resources said it would be easiest to start out with, but can python really lead anywhere or will i eventually want to learn other languages.
<13> can i return pairs like? return x,y ?
<13> er
<13> -one of those ?
<13> :|
<19> agilman: It's free. And native.
<15> triplah: sure - use (x,y) to be explicit that you're returning a tuple
<18> whitefeather160: python is really awesome to learn with, I use it for 100% of the stuff I do for myself
<19> So I'm not sure what you're asking for.
<13> LeedsHK: ok, thanks
<19> whitefeather160: Python is powerful AND easy. The two are not inherently contradictory.
<19> It is both easy to learn and very useful to know. :P
<16> any good resources to help me learn better, i mean keep me intersted
<15> whitefeather160: official tutorial, dive into python, thinkCSPy, byte of python...
<20> whitefeather160: I know plenty of other languages, and prefer python for most work
<20> whitefeather160: I second Dive into Python, its a solid book
<18> Poopsmith: whats better PIL or ImageMagick?
<21> I third dive into python
<19> ThinkCSPy might be better for a beginner, however.
<19> agilman: PIL.
<20> agilman: PIL
<21> yeah, thinkCspy
<21> for a beginner
<19> agilman: I haven't used ImageMagick, but for one, it's not native, which almost invariably means not Pythonic.
<19> gzl: Stop copying me.
<19> That's better.
<18> Poopsmith: yeah, its not pythonic... I just need to resize some images according to a formula... I did os.popen(imagemagick....)
<19> agilman: Oh, bleh. PIL is quite easy to use.
<19> I know **** about graphics, but it worked fine for my uses.
<19> (I was resizing images and placing them on a larger image in a timeline. Sounds similar to what you might want.)
<8> the PIL inspires jealousy among programmers in other languages. That's how cool it is :)
<16> whats PIL
<19> Python should inspire jealousy among programmers in other languages, if they know what's good.
<8> the Python Imaging Library
<20> whitefeather160: Python Imaging Library
<22> the only problem I had with PIL was working out what happened in-place and what returned a new object...
<19> Yeah, it took me a few tries to get stuff working, and sometimes it wasn't at all apparent what had gone wrong, but I take that more as a token of my ignorance than anything else.
<19> The docs could also use more review than what I gave them.
<20> Using procedures improperly and then cursing tends to be more fun than reading generally out of date documentation.
<22> Poopsmith: they almost always could :-)
<20> YMMV
<19> enodran: I agree. :P
<16> can anyone one provide me with the source code of some small programs theyve written in python so i can look at it and study the syntax and things.
<23> http://www.koders.com/
<23> or just install it and read several of the thousand .py files
<12> how do I print "\" without it being an EOL?
<24> sys.stdout.write()
<12> so sys.stdout.write("\")?
<23> no
<23> \\
<24> Or r'\'.
<12> sweet!
<12> that worked


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