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<hds> hmm
<johnlev_> and they need to be interpreted differently
<stain> is the integer as a string or as some int-object?
<bit`> johnlev_, I've read to avoid type checking in python... you lock yourself in. think properties
<stain> if it is a string:
<stain> >>> "12313".isdigit()
<stain> True
<johnlev_> stain: ok, ta.
<hds> would something like foo = ["1", "2", "3"] db.cursor.execute("insert into ...values(%s, %s, %s,)", *foo) work?
<stain> if it is some integer object I would refactor your API so that strings and integers arrives in two different ways
<Yhg1s> hds: no, but 'tuple(foo)' would.
<Yhg1s> hds: and depending on the db-api module, just using 'foo' might work too.
<hds> Yhg1s: k
<johnlev_> stain: not an option, this is a command line argument
<robinl1> How to bind events in wxpython?
<TL_CLD> How "low level" can Python go? A few of us here at the office are debating whether Python could be used to create a server that communicated with a Meridian PBX
<robinl1> textbox = wx.TextCtrl(frame, size=(200, -1))
<robinl1> wx.EVT_TEXT_ENTER(textbox, test)
<robinl1> this doesnt work
<bit`> stain, It's kind of hard to grasp when coming from java/c++
<robinl1> omfg you guys are not talkative :|
<TFK> these are the kind of things that the demo/wiki/whatever covers.
<bit`> johnlev_, did you try looking at the std lib code? like optparse or getopt?
<bit`> robinl1, could be we don't use wxpython
<TFK> And I'm not sure there are many wxPython developers here to begin with. #wxwidgets/#wxpython may be more helpful, with advanecd questions.
<DataBeaver> Is there any reference-like documentation for the PyTypeObject and PyMethodDef structs?
<cbrinker> I am looking for a standalone python workflow engine. Some googling didnt turn up anything too obvious, is there a package/egg out there that does WF, before I start buidling my own?
<hds> Yhg1s: why tuple(foo) and not *foo?
<bit`> TFK, going to check. so far books seems to skip the why sometimes
<robinl1> those channels are empty.
<TFK> bit`, pardon, the why of what?
<johnlev_> bit`: yes, I'm using optparse
<skar> hi, i want to run "data=data+temp", but if data string is initialized only here, how to check if var exists already or not?
<mennis> What is the best way to get upstream patches to the python tree?
<Juhaz> skar, initialize to known default value (eg. None), and check for that
<stain> skar: start with data="" ?
<stain> before the loop
<stain> or whatever
<stain> hds: because the execute method expects a second argument, not a whole lot of more arguments
<stain> and the second argument should be a tuple by the DB API 2.0 docs.. some modules might expect both lists and dicts though
<stain> robinl1: you have to bind some some function
<stain> DataBeaver: have you checked the Python "API" docs?
<stain> ok, that should be all of the backlog of questions, right?
<stain> where can I cash in my $5?
<bit`> johnlev_, Why not to check for types, and how to avoid it.. afk for while
<Cheery> stain. hehe. :D
<stain> johnlev_: ah, but then just use isdigit, because it will be a string anyway
<Cheery> That's what I were just going to do.
<johnlev_> stain: am doing
<Cheery> Thought I'm not doing a real lisp implementation, just something fun.
<bit`> opps meant for TFK
<stain> Cheery: I think the only boring thing would do to do the parsing, otherwise you can just use ("apply", ("lambda", ("x", ))) etc. and such
<qk> how to do something like: ['a', 'b'] in ['a', 'b', 'c'] -> True ?
<joaop5> hmnn length([x for x in a if x in b]) == length(a)
<joaop5> should work :)
<ignacio> No, that will choke on dupes and permutations.
<joaop5> being a the smaller one
<qk> hmm..
<ignacio> Join them with a unique character then use in on the strings.
<qk> i think i'm looking for list comprehensions magic function ;)
<joaop5> i love list comprehensions so much i just wanted to used them :)
<joaop5> qk, check goopy, there's probably there a function for that
<cbrinker> Is there movement to get python to natively support AOP?
<ignacio> Decorators?
<ignacio> Hell, Python already supports monkeypatching...
<heviLUT> there is __get__
<joaop5> qk: def intersection(a, b):
<joaop5> """
<joaop5> intersection(a, b) -> list of items in both A and B
<heviLUT> usually aop provides enter/leave on functions
<DataBeaver> stain: Yeah, but I can't find any _reference_ documentation about those structures. i.e. something that lists all members and their meanings. Right now I'm looking specifically for the function signatures to be used with the various METH_* values.
<heviLUT> and with __get__ with monkey same result can almost made
<heviLUT> a bot more controlling logic more
<Yhg1s> hds: they do entirely different things.
<Yhg1s> hds: *foo unpacks the sequence foo into the argument list. 'bar(*foo)' is 'bar(foo[0], foo[1], foo[2])', etc.
<Yhg1s> hds: tuple(foo) just returns a tuple of the same contents as 'foo'.
<skar> stain,juhaz:thanks will do that
<robinl1> how to open a file with read and write capabilities? (popen)
<cosmint> I want to use object attribute names in %(name)s string substitution. Is there a very simple way to do this, or a simple way to make a key/value dict of object attribute/values?
<qk> joaop5: something like: L1 == [x for x in L1 if x in L2]
<heviLUT> open(aFile,"rw") ?
<robinl1> doesn't work
<neurogeek> robinl1, meaning you want to write to a popen output file?
<robinl1> neurogeek: want to read and write to it
<hds> Yhg1s: ah. ok.
<cosmint> qk: Almost sounds like a possible job for sets.
<heviLUT> what is the problem
<cosmint> Specifically an intersection..
<neurogeek> robinl1, that makes no sense at all, popen output is read-only
<robinl1> neurogeek: no it isn't
<Yhg1s> yes, it is.
<Yhg1s> popen is only reading, or only writing.
<neurogeek> ??
<robinl1> why could i write to it then?
<robinl1> to make interfaces?
<robinl1> that's what i do with it.
<Yhg1s> os.popen2() is both, as is the popen2 module and subprocess.
<neurogeek> robinl1, the question is: why would you?
<Yhg1s> use the subprocess module.
<robinl1> hmm ok i see
<cosmint> "%(first)s %(middle)s %(last)s" % ({'first':self.first,'middle':self.middle,'last':self.last})
<neurogeek> rw is an invalid mode for open
<robinl1> Traceback (most recent call last):
<robinl1> File "simplecmdline.py", line 13, in Execute
<robinl1> line = command[0].readline()
<robinl1> IOError: [Errno 9] Slechte bestandsbeschrijver
<cosmint> I would like to do % (o)
<cosmint> awww slechte
<qk> cosmint: yea.. it works too: set([]) == set(L1) - set(L2)
<TFK> ?>pasteit@
<neurogeek> cosmint, hmm??
<Yhg1s> robinl1: did you forget to read the documentation for subprocess, popen2 or os.popen2?
<robinl1> nevermind i fixed it, lol
<DataBeaver> robinl1: Use r+, w+ or a+ depending on how you want to open the file
<ignacio> cosmint: Why not just define .__str__()?
<Yhg1s> robinl1: I will ask you one last time to stop saying lol.
<robinl1> sorry, i'm used to it.
<Yhg1s> DataBeaver: his is a pipe, not a file.
<DataBeaver> Ah.
<cosmint> I want a k/v dict of object attributes, -OR- I want % string substitution to accept an object from which to grab attribute values for %(named)s string substitution "things".
<DataBeaver> I got confused by others talking about file open modes :P
<sapo> hi guys, i have some strings like this: <type int> how can i remove the <type > and leave only the "int" word?
<cosmint> I want to make code like this much less annoying:
<cosmint> "%(first)s %(middle)s %(last)s" % ({'first':self.first,'middle':self.middle,'last':self.last})
<cosmint> I want to use "%(first)s %(middle)s %(last)s" % simplesomething
<DataBeaver> "%s %s %s"%(self.first,self.middle,self.last)
<Yhg1s> cosmint: less annoying how? Less annoying like string.Template ? Less annoying like '"%(first)s %(middle)s %(last)s" % self.__dict__'?
<cosmint> I want to use %(named)s params.
<cosmint> Yhg1s: __dict__
<cosmint> Thank you.
<neurogeek> DataBeaver, someone said open("file","rw") i just said, thats an invalid mode
<heviLUT> I did, and yep it is invalid, sorry
<neurogeek> heviLUT, no prob.
<Yhg1s> for file it would be either 'r+' (open for reading and also in-place writing), 'w+' (open for writing, truncating the file if it exists, and also reading inbetween') and 'a+' (open for appending, but also be able to seek and read')
<Yhg1s> but mixing reading and writing is confusing, fragile and nonportable (particularly 'a+')
<robinl1> YAY!
<robinl1> it works
<heviLUT> usually if managing binary data (own db) read & write is used
<robinl1> i made a wxpython app which is basically a better version of an xterm - executes an command, you can give input to it.
<robinl1> it's really cool :)
<robinl1> but , one question - how to make my app add a line to the textbox every time it sees something new?
<robinl1> <robinl1> i open a pipe to a command, and i have 3 widgets, one to execute the command, one to display the output, and one to write input, i'm using command.read(), but hell, how do i make it stop when it wants input?
<heviLUT> robinl1: which command you are usign ?
<robinl1> os.popen2()
<robinl1> command[1].read()
<heviLUT> command = os.popen2( .. ) ?
<robinl1> yes.
<heviLUT> ok, I was looking for where is the command function or cl*** member :)
<robinl1> :P
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