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<0> so this is running on the actual xbox OS?
<1> on this line i get "exceptions.TypeError: not enough arguments to format string": print 'hi %d %d %d' % 5,5,5 ... why? isnt that three numbers and three places inside the string? what arguments are of wrong quantity?
<2> yeah
<3> Mizipzor: you need (5,5,5), otherwise it's parsed as (string % oneNumber), 5, 5
<1> joedj, oh... thanks
<0> brutopia: maybe tell the twisted folks whats missing and see if they have ideas?
<4> \
<5> I'm at my favorite part of coding.
<5> I understand how my code works, and I have it working, and now I'm just going through removing janky cruft.
<5> MFen: What up, MFen?
<5> I'm high on C!
<6> cocaine? ;x
<5> ned: No, C.
<5> Although, do you you think Scarface was as bad*** a coder as me?
<7> SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE POINTER.
<5> "Say hello to my little freind!!!"
<5> Great minds.
<7> what a movie
<5> Not just pointer.
<5> Mighty structures of towering pointers. function pointers! Statically initialized arrays of logic.
<5> It makes me weep to think upon it.
<7> me too
<5> MFen: Bah.
<8>
<5> I'm doing my best dammit. I don't have access to your fancy "managed memory" or your schmancy "cl***es" or your hoity-toity "pseudo closures," after all.
<9> speaking of pointers, any pointers on how I can use the usage message of my script as a docstring for it?
<9> that'w what PEP257 suggests
<5> eleftherios: Um. Make the string in your usage the docstring of tyour script, then in the usage function do myModule.__doc__ (or something like)
<10> eleftherios: actually, pep257 suggests the other way round. use the docstring as usage
<9> ChrisLong, what CSWookie suggested then...
<10> ChrisLong: yes. he was faster ;)
<9> CSWookie, so myModule would be the filename of the script?
<9> (which means that if someone renames it, the code will break)
<9> and last, where do I have to place the docstring to make it the docstring of the whole module? (sorry, no examples given in PEP257)
<9> rather, to make it the docstring of the whole script
<10> eleftherios: sys.modules[__name__] is the current module.
<9> ChrisLong, ah that's lovely
<9> so I guess I should place the scripts docstring after the #!/usr/bin/python, after the GPL and before the block of imports...
<11> bye
<5> eleftherios: No. Because for the good of the land, no code should ever contain the GPL, in any of its incarnations.
<12> Hello, I'm trying to port a small C-OpenGL to Python using PyOpenGL and I was wondering if any of you have a small example using PyOpenGL... the examples i've found on the internet are quite complex to start. thanks
<9> CSWookie, for the good of the land we need as much GPL code as possible if you ask me :-)
<5> eleftherios: Since I didn't ask you, that must not be the case.
<5> eleftherios: :-)
<9> is it possible to cause print not to print a newline after the the string it prints?
<9> CSWookie, :-)
<13> yes
<13> eleftherios, print var,
<1> eleftherios, use sys.stdout.write()
<9> thank you rodrickbrown Mizipzor :-)
<1> :)
<13> sys.stdout.write() is overkill :-)
<9> rodrickbrown, why is it overkill?
<7> print var, leaves an extra space at the end, which write() does not
<5> Ooooh. BURN
<13> eleftherios, for what you need it for
<7> print var, is convenient if that's all you need (debug prints etc)
<9> I just need it to print the scripts usage docstring at stdout (shell)
<9> nevermind, too much fuss over such a detail :-)
<12> Hello, I'm trying to port a small C-OpenGL to Python using PyOpenGL and I was wondering if any of you have a small example using PyOpenGL... the examples i've found on the internet are quite complex to start. thanks
<5> Hmm.
<5> If I made a program thaat had an easter egg that printed the GPL, and then mocked it and rediculed it, would my code fall under the GPL, since I included it in the code?
<13> no since your modifying the gpl
<10> CSWookie: why should it? did you release your code under the gpl or use gpl'ed code in any way?
<13> that seeems like something very childish to do though
<5> ChrisLong: Well, my code would contain the GPL, and so would be a derivative work.
<5> rodrickbrown: Well, I'm not going to do it.
<5> I was just wondering about the legalities of the situation.
<13> since your modify the original text
<13> it would not be gpl
<13> at that point
<10> hmm, is the gpl plublished under the gpl?
<5> rodrickbrown: But what if I don't? Say I have a docstring or something that is unmodified GPL, and I print that. Then I print a random selection of insults, from different strings.
<5> ChrisLong: I dunno.
<10> CSWookie: you would not be allowed to do what you suggested. from the gpl: "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."
<7> ChrisLong: he's said twice now that he's not modifying the gpl
<14> anyone know how to "Programatically" select a column on a treeview/liststore with pygtk ? so that the "sort" arrow shows when a dialog starts
<7> CSWookie: merely including the text of the gpl does not make something gpl
<7> there has to be intent to distribute the work *under the terms of* the gpl
<7> which, clearly, you would not be doing
<5> MFen: Probably not.
<5> Since I'm working toward the good of the land.
<15> can someone take a look at my code and see whats the problem?
<10> CSWookie: and as you said (and i overlooked) want to display it unmodified, no problem. "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies[...]"
<7> letsgfuad: that works better if you pastebin it first, and say what it's about
<15> ok cool
<10> p_masho: you have to use set_sort_column_id on your model
<7> CSWookie: it is possible to argue that your work is itself derivative of the gpl, even if the text of the gpl is not modified
<7> for example, you could have a license whose terms are: "Everything this says, my license is the exact opposite: ...(text of the GPL)..."
<5> MFen: Which was the crux of my argument.
<5> MFen: Actually, I kind of like that liscense.
<15> ok here it is http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/757
<7> that would clearly be derived from the gpl, since you are using it in a license context
<15> i dont get any errors when i run it or nothign
<5> All of this code is mine. You can't do anything with it, unless you derive something from it.
<5> Then its yours, and I don't care.
<7> heh
<5> Hmmm.
<5> The APL. I think I'll start using that liscense.
<10> letsgfuad: a hint: put print type(shape) after the raw_input()
<15> wait so after the raw_input() a next line uder it shoudl be print type(shape)
<15> and what does the ">" in input mean?
<15> could i just use raw_input() isntead
<10> letsgfuad: yes, next line. try something else instead of "> ", and you'll know
<15> ok cool
<15> thanks
<15> nothign changed when i added print type(shape_
<15> )
<14> ChrisLong: lovely lovely lovely.. thanks... I;m not going to tell you how many hours I spent looking at that problem.. its embar***ing !
<16> you seriously expect aol speekers to know what is it or even read the topic ?
<15> that to me?
<16> I used "you" in the plural form, obviously
<15> wtf
<15> p_masho, is included i the "you"
<15> correct?
<16> everyone is
<15> yoru a little to pompous
<10> letsgfuad: what was the output you got?
<15> ChrisLong, the output was Welcome to the Extended area calculation program then it goes >>>
<15> so i cant enter anything or do anything it just brings me to python prompt
<10> you did not get "Please select a number" etc?
<15> nope
<10> letsgfuad: interesting, i just tried it and i get a SyntaxError on the last elif:
<15> hmm do you possibly know why i dont recieve an error on that?
<15> im using the IDLE
<10> letsgfuad: if i replace it with else: i get the whole menu
<15> ChrisLong, just the last one or all elifs?
<15> hmm wierd on IDLE that did not work
<15> let me try to run it
<10> letsgfuad: only the last, the one without a condition
<15> ok cool
<17> hi. is there any nice python shortcut for writing foo = bar() if foo =! None: baz[..] = foo ?
<15> ChrisLong, yeah that fixed it when i ran it, but IDLE does not come up with an error... Thanks for the help
<15> IDLE did not come up with an error previously to me changing it to else
<10> letsgfuad: strange, just tried it in idle. i get an error prompt
<15> ugh
<15> this si crazy lol
<15> let me restart idle
<15> ChrisLong, nope still no error
<15> ChrisLong, and the program does not work
<10> letsgfuad: i meant i get an error with the elif: still in
<10> letsgfuad: still no menu?
<15> ChrisLong, ok, well in IDLE i do not get a menu, but when i run/compile it i do get a menu, but then i get an error saying <type 'str"> you did not enter a number
<15> oh do i need if shape == "1" (do the " " have to be there)
<10> letsgfuad: yes.
<15> ok it works now, with those "" thanks
<10> ?tutorials
<15> ?
<10> letsgfuad: did you read an tutorial for python?
<15> yeah, i read this one
<15> http://www.hetland.org/python/instant-hacking.php
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