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<0> hmm.. maybe i should propose a change to the failure behavior of find for py3. returning -1 seems wrong anymore.
<1> and whats the comment operator in python
<1> errr, comment character
<0> well i wouldnt call it an operator...
<0> #
<0> standard unix script commenting.
<1> excellent, thanks
<2> oh oh oh aio + coroutines
<0> Jerub: has your heart frozen more solid or are offenders worse and more often as of late?
<2> future looking rosy for python concurrency
<3> ironfroggy: my heart was always frozen solid.
<4> hello there
<5> is str += str2 any different from str.join(str2) ?
<4> does pygtk support libgnomeui?
<0> i imagine you sitting in the artic, scowling at the snow for providing you with too much warmth.
<3> n0other: very.
<0> n0other: extremely.
<3> n0other: .join is for doing ','.join(['a','b','c']) == 'a,b,c'
<0> "foo".join("bar") --> "bfooafoor"
<5> aah, I get it now, thank you
<4> i have an error in a gnomeapp window, designed in glade
<4> ./gestor.py:13: Warning: IA__g_object_get_valist: object cl*** `GnomeProgram' has no property named `default-icon'
<4> gtk.glade.XML('./gestor.glade',"principal")
<4> ./gestor.py:13: GtkWarning: Invalid input string
<4> gtk.glade.XML('./gestor.glade',"principal")
<0> bad flood!
<4> ironfroggy: sorry, i forgot to paste
<4> ironfroggy: it won't happen again
<0> now is that necessarily an error? it only says "Warning".
<4> true
<4> it says invalid input string, but i can't say were
<0> it tells you were.
<0> gester.py, line 13
<4> ironfroggy: maybe ... but i can't find that property in glade
<0> of course you cant.
<4> true, when i load the .glade and the gnomeapp window
<0> you know, my head is kind of on at the wrong angle right now, so im just gonna say "i dunno"
<0> i cant think straight at the moment.
<4> no problem
<4> but ironfroggy it is bad a program with 2 lines have already warnings
<4> where can i find info about the gnome - python functions
<4> the is no doc in debian
<0> this might be happening below python, in gtk itself. ask about that option in a gtk channel.
<4> ok, thanks
<2> freaking jehovas witnesses at my door
<2> yes give me the watchtower and now let me get my baseball bat
<0> lets not bash religions in a programming channel, shall we?
<2> ok
<2> its not really the religion, its the coming around and bothering me that I mind ;)
<0> coming around and bothering you _is_ their religion./
<6> ironfroggy: people bash perl and ruby all the time here... ;)
<2> does freenode even have religous bashing channels?
<3> alex-kun: and I tell them to stop.
<3> and I wear an @.
<6> true true
<0> it looks like a little badge!
<3> it does!
<3> it's so cute!
<2> i must have a dirtier mind
<0> awwww how adorable
<3> and it gives me cosmic power.
<0> cute cosmic power?
<3> very!
<0> like you giggle flowers or something?
<3> ironfroggy: while banning spammers and aolers, yes.
<0> flowers and giggling has never seemed so evil.
<3> ironfroggy: you know how we had the -cleese/-gilliam split?
<0> i mean, you are doing good deads, but its kind of like the punisher.
<3> ironfroggy: the bot that managed splitting the channels was named 'snugglebunny'. I named that bot.
<0> Jerub: yeah i remember the fiasco.
<3> s/fiasco/successful social experiement/
<0> i wouldnt consider it a success. it was frustrating.
<3> and no, this channel is of a much higher quality than it was before that split.
<0> but.. its also not split anymore.
<7> Jerub: ?
<0> Jerub: "no" in response to what, exactly?
<3> ironfroggy: that's because the person running the bot had technical problems, and we were ending up with 75% of people in one of the channels.
<2> there is another python channel?
<3> joe_k: nope.
<0> Jerub: so what part of that was successful?
<7> Jerub: would there have to be 50% ?
<3> ironfroggy: noise was reduced, clue was participating in both channels.
<3> kbrooks: only idlers remained in the other channel.
<2> what are ## channels?
<3> joe_k: ****ing retarded.
<0> joe_k: stupid
<7> joe_k: abot channels
<2> ooo kkk
<7> about*
<0> Jerub: watch the language or ill report you to yourself.
<7> meta channels
<3> ironfroggy: oh geez.
<3> ironfroggy: I'm so scared.
<2> so lets say I try to join #freebsd, it puts me in ##freebsd
<7> ironfroggy: don't be so self-referential
<0> they are channels about things... which, obviously, is such a novel and unique concept.
<0> Jerub: you dont scare you?
<2> i dont understand the redirect or what ## is supposed to signify
<6> joe_k: theoretically, ## channels are "unofficial" channels
<3> ironfroggy: dude, I've seen me naked.
<6> so ##freebsd isn't the official FreeBSD IRC channel
<0> Jerub: thats too much information!
<8> /clear/clear
<8> oop
<3> whereas, #python is the official python channel.
<3> so it doesn't matter.
<7> Jerub: who told you to talk in such a NSW manner?
<3> :)
<6> indeed
<3> kbrooks: new south wales?
<2> so then how do I get to the official one?
<0> Jerub: is this channel actually official?
<2> or are you saying there isn't one
<7> Jerub: not safe for work
<3> ironfroggy: Yep, says me.
<3> kbrooks: NSFW you mean.
<2> i.e. because no volunteers have stepped up to create/manage one?
<6> joe_k: there may be, I have no idea. Ask the FreeBSD guys.
<7> Jerub: thanks
<3> kbrooks: the last two bottles of scotch that I just put in my recycling bin.
<0> Jerub: I have a proposition for you.
<3> ironfroggy: "go to bed and don't ban anyone else?"
<8> uhoh, propositions
<0> well, lets say there are times when attitides and behaviors become unacceptable around here, and you've already p***ed out. i like to think i would be a good canidate for flash around a badge to keep the order.
<3> ironfroggy: we already have covert ops.
<3> hee, that was a pun. see the pun.
<9> is there any way to use select on windows file handles
<9> or something similar
<0> brutopia: windows select only works on sockets.
<3> ironfroggy: on a more serious note. I don't delegate responsibility here. i'll talk to the PSU last week at our next meeting.
<0> umm.. start a process that reads a file and pushes over a socket?
<3> brutopia: yep, there's WaitForMultipleObjects
<3> brutopia: it has a limit of 64 objeccts iirc.
<3> brutopia: it's in win32all somewhere.
<0> Jerub: are there actual meetings? things are either more organized than they appear, or you pretend like there is more organization than there is.
<3> brutopia: have a look at twisted.internet.win32reactor or whatever its called to see a sane(ish) implementation of it.
<3> ironfroggy: I've said too much.
<0> Jerub: im recording this conversation.
<8> gasp!
<10> let's sat I have a list, like this: list[1][0][1], and when I loop through it, I want to invert the 1s and 0s, so it looks like this: list[0][1][0], any ideas on how to accomplish this?
<3> ErikHK: you've made practically no sense.
<0> why
<3> ErikHK: please make sense.
<9> Jerub: thanks for the advice
<10> ok, like this: list = [[1,2],[3,4]] where list[0][0] is a 1, but when I loop through it, I want it to access list[1][1] instead of [0][0], it doesn't seem to make sense, I know
<3> okay, I'm going to bed.
<2> erikhk: you have a list of lists.
<2> when you "loop through" a list, you do something with each element
<6> ErikHK: I suspect you'll be better off modifying the behaviour at the loop level
<2> do you want to "loop through" the main list, or the sublists
<6> rather than change the list itself
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