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<0> Jerub: can I telework for you from Hong Kong?
<1> p00q: really? how nice :D which country is that?
<2> swarog: ;-) USA
<3> p00q: you do?
<2> ironfroggy: yes
<1> p00q: doin startups?
<3> p00q: then why are you asking me advice instead of just paying me to do it?
<2> swarog: i shouldn't speak of this here, no?
<2> ;-)
<2> hehehe
<1> ironfroggy: its sweet when its for free :))
<3> p00q: and why am i giving away my highly valued consulting services to someone equiped to pay for them?
<2> ironfroggy: seriously, i'm looking for people
<1> (find your self abused)
<3> p00q: im looking for contract work.
<2> ironfroggy: excellent. are you in usa btw?



<3> yes
<2> where approx
<1> i think p00s is just a poser
<3> p00q: south-central PA
<1> p00q*
<4> catfight
<4> ;)
<1> twist!
<1> i think ill stick to sys administration, less work, and payed well enough
<4> uhuh, i used to do alot less as an admin
<1> exactly
<1> and if you want bigger chunk of money, programming is not a way
<0> it's far more fun though
<2> swarog: sorry, private messaging. and agreed. unless you're doing it for yourself. but python is great for sysadmin work
<1> programming fun?
<2> and programming is definitely more fun. ;-)
<1> i dont think its fun, its a usualu hard work with awfull deadlines
<4> fun is being paid as a sysadmin, and having enough time to code anyway
<4> ;)
<1> i find it amusing installing nss-switch+ldap again and again :)
<1> oliver`: right! but its kinda hard having two jobs :(
<3> swarog: write a python script to do it for you.
<1> my gf is complaining about it
<4> i meant hobby coding
<4> hehe
<4> i used to spend maybe 2 hours a day doing actual admin work
<1> well, that aprox it :)
<4> after a year or so you have all your monitoring stuff running
<1> dba job is quite nice too
<4> so it's not half as bad
<1> even less work/knowledge
<5> What is the easiest way to include a "configuration" file? I could just write it as a bunch of variable ***igns and include it, but wondering if there is a nicer way
<1> edeca: do it in perl!
<2> edeca configparser
<0> edeca: I suggest a formally-defined XML subset
<5> Leeds: Sure, get working on it ;)
<5> p00q: Cheers :)
<1> ouch, that was rude
<5> Ugh, XML, shudder.
<6> xml is teh gey
<5> How about I do it in XML in perl?
<0> yes, XML is fun and free of worry
<2> edeca: ;-)
<2> I like SOAP, personally. big fan. especially complex datatypes.
<5> I normally don't bother making things configurable, but this one is to be used by pointy haired bosses.
<7> edeca: the stdlib has the ConfigParser module, which is pretty much windows INI files
<1> oops
<8> OT: anyone here own an ipod, 4th generation?
<0> edeca: I ***ume the config doesn't have to be human-editable?
<1> 'pointy haired' thing again
<1> whats that all about?
<0> AnarkiDotNET: yes
<0> swarog: see Dilbert
<1> Leeds: all of it?
<5> swarog: Google :)
<1> urbandictionary have it
<5> joedj: Currently looking into it after p00q and you suggested it, thanks :)
<8> Leeds - have any problems with your ipod where it causes whatever computer its plugged into to lock up untill its unplugged?
<0> edeca: I'd just pickle it, probably
<0> AnarkiDotNET: I haven't plugged it into a computer for ages... the wheel is broken, so I just use it for shower music :-)



<8> oh
<5> Leeds: If you are using it in the shower..
<8> well mine is borked
<8> and that ****s, because i needed it tonight to install the new beta 2 of Vista :P
<5> I must have missed something here.. you need an ipod to install windows?
<0> edeca: I don't pickle in the shower... if that's what you're asking :-)
<8> i dont have any free HD space
<8> my ipod has 40 gigs
<8> i have a mobo that supports booting from USB devices
<5> Leeds: This channel is so odd :P
<8> oh also
<8> i dont have a DVD burner
<0> edeca: hey, it's Friday afternoon here, and I'm barely working as it is
<5> Leeds: It's Friday morning and nor am I.
<9> how do I get all the files in the currentdir fith a filemask 'something*'?
<8> so even if i was going to install vista to an internal HD, i'd still need the iPod to store the files on :)
<5> Leeds: I'm trying to think of a catchy name
<5> Leeds: A good name for my script is more important than it working
<7> tralala: glob.glob('something*')
<0> edeca: quite right
<9> joedj: thank you
<5> After that I need to sort out my vim colourscheme..
<0> edeca: so, somewhere near Heathrow, or does my traceroute lie?
<8> ugh now i've got a dilemma
<5> Leeds: Heh, I'm using irssi through an SSH session, but your traceroute isn't far off anyway
<8> if i take my ipod to bestbuy and have them replace it....well, i've got 16 full DVD rips on there
<8> wouldnt be good for my legal standing if someone went "hrmm" and reported me
<0> AnarkiDotNET: for the record, this is a public, possibly-logged channel :-)
<8> do a geoip search on my ip :)
<2> swarog: by the way, no posing here. ;-) i need to lose 10 kilos first.
<8> its very far off
<5> Meh GeoIP isn't all that.
<5> But it's not bad.
<8> argh...
<8> WHY is my ipod screwing up NOW of all times
<8> it was fine two days ago
<8> i'll try completely draining the battery
<5> How ironic, the first result for google:"python script" returns microsoft.com
<8> really?
<3> thats funny!
<8> yep
<8> to be fair though
<8> microsoft does have a python based project
<8> IronPython :)
<1> p00q: what are you working on now? any project?
<8> er, bizzare:
<8> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/python/apps/user/usappy01.mspx
<2> swarog: yes, a FUSE interface for S3 is a public project I'm working on.
<1> p00q: sf.net?
<2> not yet..
<2> (not ready)
<5> Cripes, are the python developers trying to give me a heart attack? How many spawn*() functions are there in os?
<0> edeca: well, they started with one, and it multiplied...
<10> Hello
<10> please , i have problem with PyGTK
<10> i try to execut this programme http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/examples/base.py
<10> but it's only show for me __main__ in temenial and don't show the window
<0> no errors?
<10> any help please?
<10> no any errors
<10> __main__
<10> ./Python$ python gui.py
<0> I ***ume you can run other graphical programs from that terminal?
<10> yes i can
<0> can you add the line "print self" before the line which says "self.window.show()"?
<10> ok i will
<0> does the program exit after printing __main__ or does it stop?
<10> yes it's exit
<10> return me to command line
<0> and when you add the extra line, does it print anything else?
<10> no
<0> add "print 'foo' before the "base=Base()" line... does that get printed?
<10> no :s
<10> it's only print __main__


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