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<0> Squiggly: Only been at it for a day or so, so it still has aways to go
<1> ironfroggy: I'm trying to do what you said but not sure about one thing......
<1> http://pastebin.com/764154
<2> plb-: if you frivilously PM me again ill have to put you on ignore, so dont do it.
<1> the window shows up but not the buttom
<1> something with table.attach i gather
<2> i dont know. i dont use pygtk.
<1> ironfroggy: well doesn't look to be pygtk specific.....
<2> of course it is.
<1> but I don't think that top function is correct
<1> self.table.attach
<1> can that be used outside __init__(self)?
<1> called
<2> why wouldnt it?
<1> hm
<3> you don't show the table, nor the buttons
<3> err, wait, you do show the table. but not the buttons
<3> just change the last two lines to window.show_all()
<1> ok lemme see
<1> ah
<1> thanks
<3> but why the hell are you using table for that? they're all in a single row, vbox would be so much easier
<1> Juhaz: I'm adding more stuff later
<1> so I just used table
<4> gn8
<1> ironfroggy: you want to check it out now....I think I got it all sorted out
<1> accelgroup = gtk.AccelGroup() key, modifier = gtk.accelerator_parse('Escape') accelgroup.connect_group(key, modifier, gtk.ACCEL_VISIBLE, gtk.main_quit) self.window.add_accel_group(accelgroup)
<1> er
<1> woops
<1> http://pastebin.com/764166
<5> I'm playing stump the technician with Qwest Tech support. Best thing ever!
<6> can Windows exe be a Python program
<7> Qill: sort of
<2> Qill: the best answer to that question is "Why?"
<6> i dont know
<6> just trying to understand what Python is
<6> NASA uses it, INdustrail Light and Magic uses it, Google uses it
<6> so it must be good
<2> its a programming language. but, yes, you can package up the python runtime along with your source code into a single EXE which can be executed on windows platforms.
<8> Qill: oh, okay.
<8> Qill: python is a simple language that's very powerful and agile.
<2> simple in a good way.
<2> simpler without being weaker.
<6> yes, I was reading a tutorial, and I pretty much knew everything
<6> from OOP in php
<2> coming from other languages people have more to unlearn than they do to learn.
<2> you'll find that out when you start actually using the language.
<6> i=ok
<6> ok
<9> for example http://imgv.sourceforge.net/ is written in 100% python, is fast, runs on windows (with a .exe and windows self installer) and since it's in python it automatically runs on other platforms like linux and osx. you can do pretty much anythin in python and the code will be easier to maintain than if you did it in like perl or C, especially when it gets really large
<9> dont let any ideas about it being 'interpreted' fool you
<6> thats funny
<6> I was going to ask if you could make a program like IRfanView
<6> an exe in python
<9> yeah ;0
<6> ok, Im Sewage now
<10> 66677uuyy
<10> test
<10> ok good
<9> its 06/06/06 today
<10> yeah
<2> big freakin deal
<11> anyone here ever used rapydtk in OS X?
<10> ;-/
<11> i'm experiencing some bad visual experience
<12> Can those of you very efficient in Python who haven't much to do at the moment, take a look at this project and see if you can help the author make a better Tkinter GUI designer? http://home.cogeco.ca/~rapyd/ It's awesome now but room for improvement is inevitable!
<11> lol
<11> that's the gui designer
<11> i was talking about
<13> hi all, is dict.setdefault() really an atomic operation?
<12> it's a great one and its only going to get better for sure
<12> holo, you like it?
<13> according to http://www.ddj.com/184406073#l11, it is
<9> thats what they said about boaconstructor
<13> but i wasn't able to google up that fact anywhere else
<5> vbgunz, Next time, I wouldn't put the whole "haven't much to do at the moment" thing in there.
<5> I make take you seriously...
<14> anyone want to answer a question with pythonchallenge.com's challenge #3?
<12> gt3: boa is far too busy and far too big and last I heard trying to do too much... Rapyd-Tk is just trying to make a Tkinter gui designer...
<11> vbgunz, well, i can't really tell one thing or another, becouse the gui is of the gui designer is all screwed, i'll send a screenshot
<12> rockstar_: well, if you have something to do I understand. I am just trying to be polite in asking for those with free time to take a look at a great project that should have been created 15 years ago.
<5> vbgunz, kidding... --:o)
<12> :)
<5> vbgunz, a guy at work just did this same sort of thing with OpenGL drawings and such in Tcl. Pretty cool if you ask me.
<12> rockstar_: I have been unable to find a Tkinter Gui designer. I searched for a while and found some half-baked goods but Rapyd-Tk seems a great promise... long awaited too I would believe :)
<15> huh, how do you do exponential increase in python? 2^20
<5> vbgunz, I've used Glade and Qt-designer. I started programming with VB. I've refused to use gui designers from now on because it's ruined me for programming...
<15> operations
<14> squiggly: 2**20
<16> rockstar_: you sure that wasn't VB?
<12> rockstar_: the cool thing about Rapyd is how fast it can build a usable .py file ready for you to ***ign your operations, etc... It's not drag-n-drop and uses the pack manager which is very cool anyhow :)
<17> hello
<12> brb
<14> will someone help me with pythonchallenge.com #3?
<2> rabidpoobear: its a challenge for us individually
<5> polpak, VB crippled me to using GUI designers. When I realized that, I swore off of them 'til I really understood GUI programming. Not there yet, but getting there.
<14> ironfroggy: I just want someone to say "hey it seems like you're doing it right I don't know why it's not working" or "stfu noob"
<2> rabidpoobear: stfu noob
<9> visutal studio is the only one i can stand
<11> who was talking about level 3 of python challenge?
<11> i am actually trying to solve that one
<11> ha rabidpoobear
<15> i can't figure #2, but then i just got started
<5> gt3, I dabbled in C# Seemed like the only thing Microsoft truly got right.
<11> what was the issue?
<18> anyone skilled in using soappy ?
<14> I was
<9> rockstar_ pretty much
<11> rabidpoobear, so what's up?
<9> microsoft got 'windows defender' right as a free spyware app
<9> other than those 2 i cant think of anything
<11> i can't recall of an app that is spyware and that isn't free
<5> holo, that's hilarious...
<9> 90% of things on download.com
<9> tucows does an ok job of screening for spyware
<11> vbgunz, are you still there?
<19> So I'm messing around with the C API, and an oddity jumped out at me.
<20> hello
<21> hi nsee
<20> is there an well supported OLE/COM library avaliable for python?
<21> C# is hard to learn :(
<2> HellDragon: i found it easy enough. troubles?
<2> nsee: win32com
<21> i was just answering a question 20 lines above asked 2hours ago
<21> :p
<20> ironfroggy: thanks a bunch :)
<22> nsee: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/
<20> das-q: yep, found it already ;D
<20> i'm going to fish around with both
<19> Actually, I guess my question is: What's "NotImplemented" (as opposed to the exception NotImplementedError)?
<23> MightyMooquack: iirc, you return it from __mul__ and other such methods if you wish to cede conrtol to the other object
<23> MightyMooquack: so that the other obj's __rmul__ is used instead
<19> I see.
<5> Wow, setting up my router to handle my DSL automatically was a bit of a h***le, but well worth it.
<8> router as in, ****ty little netgear or something? or router as in linux box?
<24> can someone help me translate this into python?
<24> http://pastebin.com/764266
<24> trying to have a module to check my minutes on Verizon, and I just can't get anything to work
<24> the sample above is from a firefox extension that used to do that, in javascript
<24> at least, that section does the login part
<11> that looks much like python ^^ firs remove the punctuations
<11> and var
<5> Jerub, well, it's WRT54g with a few little custom mods... :o)
<11> && is and
<24> what do you use instead of XMLHttpRequest?
<5> Jerub, it's a mini-linux box
<22> I guess instead of "if (username != null && p*** != null && username.length > 0 && p***.length > 0 )" you could write if username and p***: ...
<2> byteshack: why would you use something instead of it?
<8> rockstar_: hey, you can run a netrek server on one of those now :)
<24> ironfroggy: does python have that same cl***?
<2> byteshack: what are you talking about? python isnt a client-side browser language.
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