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<0> hi all
<1> krazykrip: if they're required to wait for something, then that wait is kind of modal, no?
<2> krazykrip: but even then, you can use a thread
<3> hi, me again, one problem, i am sending string through os.send(string) to console and i have to make backslash before every space and crazy character (&,',(,)..), is there any way except: track = track2.replace("&",r"\&") for each char
<0> can anyone tell me how can I know how much things a list contains ?
<4> if its modal can i close it too ?
<4> without user clicking
<2> krazykrip: yes
<1> good question
<1> i guess you can just destroy the dialog
<4> just a dialog.Close() ?
<2> krazykrip: Show(False) will hide and drestroy the dialog
<4> sorry for the dumb questions ... am very new to wxpython but it seems nice to use :)
<5> pygentoo: i can. do you want me to?
<5> pygentoo: it's len(l)
<2> krazykrip: hehe. I've used a lot of toolkits.. but wxpython is my favorite.
<1> wx ain't bad. the layout stuff ****s, everything else is all right
<4> synic: seems like the twisted pple hate wx though
<0> ChrisLong, of course, I've forgot, I feel stupid :)
<1> hard to beat tk's packing layout manager. hard to like much else about tk
<2> krazykrip: haven't used twisted...
<4> synic: seems like the twisted even loop and wx's event loop dont play together too well
<2> I've used gtk+, QT, swing, and wx
<4> synic: is gtk+ in c++ ? i remember doin some gtk stuff and it was in C
<2> krazykrip: gtk+ is in whatever language you want
<2> I used c++ for it.
<5> krazykrip: gtk+ itself is implemented in c
<1> i've used haskell for gtk
<1> it's quite nice
<4> synic: seems like after using python i just dont feel like writing c or c++ code anymore .. and iv used c/c++ for a longgggg tiem and pythoon for just a month
<6> can I specify the function heapify uses to compare elements?
<2> krazykrip: I know the feeling
<4> i just wish a native python compiler would come out and then i wud have no reason for nething else ...
<4> not the existing ones which embed the interpreter into the exe :)
<5> eggauah: i think in python 2.5 you will be able to
<7> Hiho: What is ***ertion error?
<2> krazykrip: pygtk looks cool too, I just don't like how os x supports gtk+
<8> you mean py2exe? heh
<4> synic: i use wx since it required minimal user install for supporting libraries
<4> Patrick: yea
<8> mm, wx
<4> i still need to learn to use sizers ...
<4> in wx
<2> krazykrip: I still have nothing bad to say about wx... except wx.ListCtrl is a bit of a pain
<2> but otherwise, I absolutely love it
<4> synic: really ? how so ? i used listctrl for the first time yesterday and seemed ok .. but my app was pretty simple
<4> synic: i liked the way u cud implement sorting of cols but multiple inheritence
<2> krazykrip: I'm used to Swing and using data models for displaying info... and wx.ListCtrl only seemed to support it (wx.LC_VIRTUAL) as an afterthought.
<2> it seemed you could only include an icon in the first column
<4> synic: isnt swing a pain in the *** to use ?
<2> krazykrip: yes, but some of the stuff it does makes sense
<9> synic: a lot of these things are due to wx's lowest-common-demonitor support wrt. platforms
<4> synic: have u done nething with jython ?
<9> *denominator
<2> krazykrip: nope
<4> synic: me neither just curious as to wat u can do with it
<2> ctz: yeah, but even the wx people say wxListCtrl ****s.
<4> synic: do u mean wxpython or wxwidgets itself ?
<9> its because the underlying windows control ****s though
<2> krazykrip: wx itself. wxpython is awesome.
<2> krazykrip: wxpython even adds stuff that regular wx doesn't have. it's great.
<10> Can anyone recommend a parsing library to parse structured text ?
<11> synic, are you selling wx? -.-""
<2> holo: nope... I just use it. :P
<4> synic: like wat does it add ?
<11> prologic, why not just prolog?
<2> krazykrip: everything you see here: http://wxpython.org/docs/api/wx.lib-module.html
<10> did I come to the wrong channel ? :)
<4> synic: sweet :)
<2> krazykrip: you should download the wxPython demo
<12> sproingie, isnt bloody executing on cygwin :(
<2> krazykrip: it pretty much shows every widget you can use, and the code for it.
<4> synic: the docs and demos page ?
<2> krazykrip: nah, it's part of the wxPython source.
<11> prologic, now really, your nick is becouse you like prolog? you could use GCD's
<10> holo, no my nick has nothing to do with prolog :)
<11> oh, sorry
<1> defcon8: it won't execute on cygwin, it's still a linux executable
<4> synic: lookin for it
<12> oh crap
<1> defcon8: what you can do on cygwin is run strings.exe or take apart an elf exe with elf tools (just look for "elf" somewhere in the list of apps in setup)
<10> might give pyparsing a go
<1> defcon8: this being a cracking contest though, more you must learn on your own gr***hoppa
<12> sproingie, no such thing
<4> ok another dumb question .. when ur reply to my msgs do u type my nick explicitly every line ? or do u have a script for that ?
<12> :|
<2> krazykrip: tab completion man
<1> krazykrip: most of us have tab-completion in our irc clients
<4> synic, ahh ok works :)
<2> krazykrip: try this, type pro<tab> and see what happens
<4> synic, but mine puts a comma instead of a colon
<12> sproingie, how do i add more packages?
<1> krazykrip: welcome to xchat. you can change that
<5> krazykrip: wish gaim would do that. i prefer comma
<1> krazykrip: most of us don't care tho. chatzilla doesn't add anything at all, not even a space. it's anoying that way.
<4> sproingie, is there an xchat in win32 instead of gtk ?
<12> hmm nvm
<5> ok, i know i could switch to x-chat :)
<1> krazykrip: naw, it's still gtk for win32. it's nasty on win
<1> i actually prefer chatzilla
<2> krazykrip: www.silverex.org - sorry, uses gtk
<4> sproingie: yaay change it to colon :)
<1> krazykrip: i think they're nice enough to bundle gtk or statically link it on win tho
<4> sproingie: yup thats wat im using
<4> sproingie: i use xchat and gaim on win32
<4> sproingie: sux coz my works vpn client works only on win32 :(
<1> gaim's all right, i prefer miranda
<4> sproingie: hate using windows
<1> krazykrip: with python, the platform is mostly irrelevant
<1> C extensions are a bitch tho
<1> ok, gotta go
<12> sproingie, couldnt find that strings thing
<4> sproingie: bye bye and thanx a lot
<5> ?help
<13> '***ertionError: cannot join thread before it is started'... but I've started it.. what's wrong!?
<5> znh: you have called the start() method of the thread?
<13> ChrisLong: yes
<14> ChrisLong: did you perhaps override 'start' in your own subcl***?
<14> znh: sorry, ^
<13> joedj: I have no idea
<13> joedj: http://isl33t.net/pastebin/?read=67
<15> isl33t?!
<14> znh: you are not calling .start on dothread
<9> znh: dothread isn't having start called on it
<5> znh: no, you have not. you have called start() on an new thread, not on dothread
<4> does anyone know how to change the tooltips for rows in a column in wx.ListCtrl ?
<13> ChrisLong: okay
<9> krazykrip: could i suggest making a root-hidden wxTreeCtrl instead of fighting with wxListCtrl? :)
<4> ctz: can u have multiple cols that way ?
<9> i believe so, yes
<4> ctz: i dont understand y pple seem to dislike ListCtrl ?
<13> mm why are the threads not being executed after each other but wait for each other instead? http://isl33t.net/pastebin/?read=68
<16> how can i duplicate an object?
<13> it doesnt mather if nextT has join on it
<17> ?copy cshaman
<5> znh: something and something2 are missing run()
<11> ?copy holo
<5> znh: the code in those two get's executed when the module is imported, not when main() is run
<13> ChrisLong: where should .run() be placed? I dont get it at all
<5> znh: you must define run(self) in something in something2
<5> the last 'in' should read 'and'
<13> hey hey. that did the trick
<13> but .join for main seems to be ignored
<13> ChrisLong: the point was to avoid using while (to keep the python application running for ever)
<13> ChrisLong: and to use sleep and a print at the same time
<13> ChrisLong: the last goal worked. but keeping the application running for ever is not
<18> znh: you are trying too hard to keep that main thread suspended forever, something you'll never do in practice.
<13> ironfroggy: what do you suggest?
<18> instead of something and something2, just have something and do the other thing in the main thread.
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