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<0> probably, I think
<1> calamer: file.rfind(".")
<2> calmar: fname,ext=os.path.splitext("/x/y/a.py"); fname+"_suff"+ext
<0> I see. I check. thx a lot
<3> q. is there a way to ask ipython to execute a .py when ipython exit ?
<4> what is the best GUI TK to run in windows AND linux ?
<3> kristalino: wxpython is well supported for both
<2> kristalino: gtk or wxpython
<4> ok, i'll go with wxpython then
<4> and boa ide :)
<5> kristalino: I use xrced instead of boa for constructing guis, as a datapoint.
<4> i don't know it. What do you like in xrced ?
<5> kristalino: it's the closest thing to editing xrc files directly.
<5> and it's not drag+drop on the UI like wxGlade, which I find hard
<4> is it hard then to connect this xrc file to python language ? (i only know tkinter for now)
<4> in other words, what do you dislike in boa-constructor ?
<5> kristalino: I don't dislike it, I never got it to run properly.
<5> kristalino: oh, and for 'how to use xrc', it's just a way of defining the interface.
<5> kristalino: you use a wx cl*** to construct windows based on the xrc definition.
<5> kristalino: the alternative is a spaghetti of hundreds of lines of code in order to lay out GUI elements.
<4> Jerub, can you show me an example ? i find it hard to understand what could be "a wx cl*** to construct windows based on the xrc definition"
<6> hey i am trying to install python 2.4.2 on my system but when i am runing it it stuck in "checking for getaddrinfo bug" without do anything...
<5> kristalino: uhh,
<6> if i do strace on it i see it do "waitpid ( -1 "
<6> (when i am runing it -> runing ./configure --enable-ipv6)
<5> http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/UsingXmlResources
<5> essentially, the major bits are:
<5> self.res = wxXmlResource("calc.xrc")
<6> and if i dont use the --enable-ipv6 it stuck in "checkinf for --enable-ipv6"
<5> that's loading the resource.
<5> self.frame = self.res.LoadFrame(None, "MainFrame")
<6> anyone have idea what can i do about it?
<5> that's grabbing a whole buncha gui elements out of the resource and turning them into objects you can display on the screen.
<5> self.panel = XRCCTRL(self.frame, "MainPanel")
<5> that's grabbing out a gui element from the window
<5> EVT_MENU(self.frame, XRCID("AddMenuItem"), self.Add)
<5> that's attaching an event to a gui element.
<5> :)
<6> hey i am trying to install python 2.4.2 on my system but when i am runing it it stuck in "checking for getaddrinfo bug" without do anything... if i do strace on it i see it do "waitpid ( -1 " (when i am runing it -> runing ./configure --enable-ipv6) and if i dont use the --enable-ipv6 it stuck in "checkinf for --enable-ipv6"
<4> Jerub, a little more difficult than Tkinter, but it sounds rather easy too :) is it ?
<5> kristalino: once you get the hang of it, yes.
<4> i heard the wxpython had problems on windows, is it true ?
<7> is there a wxperl?
<5> kristalino: not really.
<5> kristalino: but there's differences in the ways that gui events are propagated under gtk and windows, so sometimes things work on one platform and fails on the other.
<5> kristalino: but that only happens when you do stuff that's wrong.
<8> Hello all! Why telnetlib write() doubling any IAC characters? How to send telnet commands?
<3> q. what is the 'standard' library to perform sha1/md5/sha512 ? this kind of stuff
<9> anyone can access to sourceforge web site ?
<9> i can't
<5> jme___: there's the sha module and the md5 module
<3> LePoulpe303: i cant either. to 'http://sf.net";
<3> Jerub: yep trying this one. but apparently it has no support for sha512
<9> jme___ oh thanks a lot
<8> Why telnetlib write() doubling any IAC characters? How to send telnet commands? i look in telnetlib, but find only one write method: write(). But i don't need double IAC, because in this i can't send telnet commands
<3> fyi, hashlib performs sha512 too
<3> now the point is to find how to get hashlib from the internet and install it :)
<3> ok i get the issue, hashlib is python 2.5
<3> and i got only 2.4.1
<10> how can i unpickle obj_b when i have "str = '%s%s' % (pickle.dumps(obj_a), pickle.dumps(obj_b))" ?
<3> hmm pyopenssl export only the ssl part of openssl :(
<3> aka not the hash and encryption
<2> tom: strstream=StringIO.StringIO(str); loads from strstream twice. Maybe there are other ways too.
<3> mouarf to get sha512 in python is not trivial :)
<3> the basic pyopenssl doesnt do digest at all
<3> there is a pyopenssl-extended which does digest
<3> but not sha512 :)
<3> there is hashlib from python 2.5, but it doesnt seems backported to 2.4
<3> ok openssl doesnt seems to export sha512, from 'openssl help' or the man page. but the source contains a sha512.c
<3> it is a real travel :)
<11> hi!
<11> my python binary seg faults immediatly
<11> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
<11> [Switching to Thread -1211013456 (LWP 5184)]
<11> 0xb7f22bf7 in PyErr_NormalizeException () from /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0
<11> 2.4.2
<12> OS?
<11> linux 2.6
<13> Hetfield: did you compile it yourself?
<11> yes
<11> gentoo ebuild
<13> then I suggest talking to #gentoo.
<13> you probably optimized too agressively.
<11> no
<11> i'm using just -02 flags now
<13> #python won't be able to help you, in any case.
<11> BUT!
<11> only a thing...
<11> i've used aggressive linking flags for all but python
<11> probably related to this
<14> Hetfield, did you already look on bugs.gentoo.org ?
<13> entirely likely, and yet entirely your own fault. agressive optimization is not reliable.
<11> izaac ye
<11> Yhg1s just tell me a thing...
<11> what are the libs python links with
<3> fyi, there is a sha512 in a lib called shax-py which works on python 2.4
<13> Hetfield: depends entirely on how you build it. Check the compilation phase to see what it links with in your situation.
<11> no warning or errors on compilation
<11> strange strange strange
<13> not at all. As I said, agressive optimization is not reliable. Only use it if you don't mind random crashes.
<13> this is not Python-specific at all.
<11> yes i think you're right
<15> if i create a module with a line key="" when i import the module, can i say modname.key to set the value of it? then are all functions that use key in the module going to use the value i set? (basically does it act like an instance variable in an object) ?
<11> ok thanks
<11> i'll search a bit
<11> bye!
<13> triplah: yes.
<15> Yhg1s: so if thats possible, whats the point of objects? __init__() i suppose ?
<15> thanks for the answer btw
<15> http://james.bond.edu.au/courses/inft12235/material/python/lib/module-rotor.html <-- anyone know if this module has been deprecated or something? i can't import it here
<16> triplah: the object oriented paradigm is not primarely for organizing attributes and operators, that can be done with any type of namespace support.
<15> Coke: true
<17> existential quantification!
<15> woop, yeah rotor IS deprecated
<1> triplah: won't "foo".encode('rot13') do?
<13> triplah: the point of cl***es (whch is what you meant to ask, I think) is that you can have more than one instance of a cl***.
<13> rotor wasn't rot13 encoding.
<13> rotor is the ENIGMA WWII encoding mechanism.
<17> triplah, here you go: _On Understanding Types, Data Abstraction, and Polymorphism_, Cardelli '85. http://research.microsoft.com/Users/luca/Papers/OnUnderstanding.A4.pdf
<15> tic: yeah i understand OO, i wasnt thinking about all the other stuff when i said that :|
<17> triplah, well, that paper is still very good:-)
<15> tic: yeah i dont feel like reading it after a couple of beers thanks :P
<18> 4 0.076 0.019 0.076 0.019 <string>:1(connect)
<18> what is this in profiling output?
<17> triplah, hehe.
<15> anyway, i could use rotor since i have py2.3 installed, it still gives a deprecation warning though :)
<16> I wish I've had a couple of beers.
<15> i tried something new tonight. solitos, turns out it was beer for women :\
<15> so sweet
<15> the "tequila flavour" made it taste like the offspring of a corona and a cruiser
<16> people are making stuff taste tequila even though many try to disguise the taste of tequila with lemon and salt?
<15> Coke: such a gimmik it wasnt even funny. it was a premixer beer :P
<15> it was almost like beer with some kind of citrus cordial in it.
<16> triplah: bleh
<15> should have stuck with the dos equis i had before it
<15> gnite
<19> I love python
<19> I want to have it's baby
<20> ok
<21> where can I read about how to define the exported interface of a module in Python?
<22> rotty`: ?
<21> Erwin: a module has an interface (the set of exported functions)
<4> does anyone know a chat (server+client) made with python ?
<22> rotty`: Yes, when you import foo, then everything define inside foo is accessble as foo.attribute
<21> Erwin: I know *that*, but the information about a module's interface is *important*
<21> (to keep an overview)
<22> I have no idea what you are asking. Maybe you want to read about docstrings and how to use e.g. epydoc or pydoc or happydoc to generate HTML files from docstrings?
<21> ah, I see: __all__, it's explained in the tutorial
<22> __all__ applies only if you do from module import *
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