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<0> tests.
<0> I don't know if that answers your question.
<1> Hey, I'm trying to p*** some commands to a bash shell using os.popen(). I'm p***ing some variables on to the command but when I try to run it I get "popen() takes at most 3 arguments (8 given)". What function can I use to do this properly and still monitor the output?
<2> P*** it as a string.
<3> I see. But take this example. The program takes system input (e.g. network addresses), takes user options (e.g which network device), send data to a RPC server and the server stores that in a database. What exactly should I test? ...
<4> or use interpolation.
<1> would it be too much to ask how I would do that?
<3> Should I write a big scenario test, like giving possible network addresses then checking in the server database if the results are as expected, or should I test each step (reading /proc, RPC procedures, etc)?
<4> hobz: "%s" % variable
<0> nictuku: Well, unit tests are called taht because they test units.
<0> Not because they test the fool stack.
<0> Holy ****!
<3> I know that depends on what I want to achieve, but my question is if "use micro tests" is a rule
<0> Sorry.
<0> It's not a rule.
<0> Testing the full stack has to be done at some point.
<5> unit tests are 'micro' by definition
<1> sysfault: Once I figure out what that means and how to use it I"m sure I'll be very thankful.
<0> But unit tests generally don't do that.
<5> Poopsmith, they aren't unit tests if they do that
<0> nictuku: the way I've done it is unit tests test a single function or cl***, and then I have a bigger test suite with fake data and such to test the full program.
<0> Yango: Sure, but you can still use pyunit to do it. Now we're just talking semantics. :)
<6> for the RPC tests you could set up a monkey-patched RPC server emulating a real one
<2> Testing the full stack is when you shove a user in front of it and have them break it.
<4> exalted> foo="tutorial"; print "read the %s" % foo
<4> read the tutorial
<2> Adding of course iptables rules to emulate a flaky network.
<0> I don't know what program he's talking aboutl, but OK.
<3> It's PyUnit, but yes, my question is about semantics :-)
<5> nictuku, then you got your answer
<3> yes, thank you all
<5> heh, just realized about the 'fool stack' that's a stack I wouldn't want to mess with
<7> why would one do something like from sys import stdin
<7> instead of just import sys ?
<7> does it bloat the code or something ?
<5> rodrickbrown, IIRC, it takes longer to load only
<3> Yango, which one takes longer? "from.." or "import .." ?
<4> less typing, no need to access the method/attribute through sys.
<5> nictuku, import. But usually what sysfault said is the main cause. BTW, as I said I'm not 100% sure about that, I'm waiting for someone to hop in and correct me if I'm wrong
<8> hello
<9> I want to hash a list, but lists (being mutable) aren't hashable. Tuples are. How do I convert a list to a tuple?
<10> tuple(list)
<9> CHodapp, yeah just noticed that one, thanks.
<10> :)
<4> ebel: mutable objects cannot are not hashable, being that their values can be changed resulting in a new hash value in which the dictionary lookup will not find.
<9> Yeah I know, this is for dicts. I was just trying to get a pseduo-unique string for a list though.
<11> Hey guys
<11> hey Poopsmith
<12> hm
<12> anyone taken a look at Dunn's wxPython book?
<4> no, but I've heard some good things about it.
<12> I see
<12> I remember someone in this channel bought it and made a comment or two, just don't rememebr who :-\
<11> Well, It's never wasted money to buy a book
<11> Unless you can get all the info you need online :/
<12> well, you do have to be somewhat selective when your'e a student though
<12> and yes, some books are wasted money
<11> High school or university/college?
<12> grad
<12> unibverstiy
<11> cool
<11> what major?
<7> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/jyrivirkki/ruby.c
<7> someone with too much time on their hands
<12> applied maths
<11> That you?
<12> what?
<13> I think scorchsaber means "did rodrickbrown write that?"
<11> yes
<11> erm
<11> did I really type "that you?"?
<14> anyone know anyone / anywhere where they talk mod py?
<13> Cowmoo: indeed
<11> Well, I'm canadian.
<11> Same thing
<14> anyone at all
<13> I'm USian.
<11> heh
<11> I don't know what mod py even is imajes, could you fill me in?
<14> mod_python....
<11> yeah...?
<13> I grew up around inarticulate people though, so I generally have a good grasp of what they probably mean.
<11> I take offense to that
<11> I'm not inarticulate
<15> hi imajes, weren't you involved in mozilla before?
<14> sure
<11> I thought it was a link to a blog, I never read the full link
<15> I recognize your nick
<13> I didn't mean offense, so it really breaks me up inside that you did.
<11> "void set_response_code(VALUE value, ID id, VALUE *data)
<11> {
<11> response_code = NUM2INT(value);
<11> }"
<11> That's why I don't like C
<14> cool
<14> yeah trying to debug a mod_python error
<11> It should have Int32.Parse(value); like everybody else
<11> godling: I don't really care. But I'm not illiterate, and thats the first time I've been called anything similar to stupid :)
<11> except by my brothers
<11> er--brother
<16> hello
<11> hey
<11> Do you think It's a reasonable Idea to try to make a script for X-Chat in Python, even though I just got the basics down today?
<13> scorchsaber: I didn't call you anything.
<17> how can I tell if two file names are referring to the same file?
<6> roadfish: Because they are symlinks/hardlinks or ?
<11> godling: No, you didn't. but--well... You know exactly what you said. "I grew up around inarticulate people though" If that wasn't reffering to me, I'll be damned
<11> roadfish: What do you mean?
<11> In python?
<17> Erwin: right symlinks
<6> roadfish: You could os.stat the files and compare the device/inode numbers
<9> scorchsaber, I threw a simple python xchat plugin together once. it was fun. :)
<17> Erwin: ok, thanks ... I was looking at stat but I didn't twig in
<6> roadfish: alternatively, use os.path.realpath which expand symlinks
<9> scorchsaber, go for it. It's great to have something that actually *does* something
<17> ok, realpath sounds the best in my situation
<17> Erwin: txn
<11> How do I get input from the user? heh...eh.....
<11> something like a = readline
<11> I dunno
<18> When installing 2.4.3 on a WinXP machine does one need to set the PYTHONPATH environ?
<18> Also does Python need to be added to the PATH/
<19> scorchsaber: raw_input()
<8> i'm trying to run a program from python on win32, winword, so i do os.spawnl(os.P_NOWAIT,winword_path,'C:\\Documents and Settings\\...\\text.doc'), but i get winword not finding the path "and", how should i p*** the path of the .doc?
<11> thanks gzl
<11> Thanks again gzl, I've got how it works now
<20> Is there a way to list the attributes of an object from within idle?
<21> dir(foo)
<21> for the names, or vars(foo) for their names and values
<20> Thanks
<8> i'm trying to run a program from python on win32, winword, so i do os.spawnl(os.P_NOWAIT,winword_path,'C:\\Documents and Settings\\...\\text.doc'), but i get winword not finding the path "and", how should i p*** the path of the .doc?
<11> load /home/scorchsaber/Test.py
<11> shoot
<11> damn
<11> huh
<11> that works
<11> can anybody else see that? Or is it just printed to my own screen for some reason or other?
<8> bah
<11> sorry mate
<11> can you see " Testing, 1, 2, 3
<11> This came from my own test Python Plugin for X-chat.
<11> Module has no __module_name__ defined"
<20> jleedev: dir() seems to show methods, but not attributes.
<11> 'cause I can
<8> i'm trying to run a program from python on win32, winword, so i do os.spawnl(os.P_NOWAIT,winword_path,'C:\\Documents and Settings\\...\\text.doc'), but i get winword not finding the path "and", how should i p*** the path of the .doc?, using " 's didn't work either
<11> I really don't know
<7> mariodemon_11, dont you want os.environ['winword_path']
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