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<0> you guys
<0> ^^
<0> question was directed twoard all of you
<1> css + php + html + java + javascript + sql == coder's hell, on earth, for free!
<2> Anyone know how to interrupt a system shell process in ipython?
<3> I worked on the guido van robot project: http://gvr.sf.net I think it is the greatest piece of software ever written... ha
<4> subopt: on Linux, maybe you could use a pkill matching the original command line
<5> Takes too long to walk?
<4> subopt: but you might have to run it from another thread (or process)
<2> Loge: thanks
<6> what's the best way to check if something is a string? isinstance(), type(foo) == type(''),... ?
<5> bytestring? Unicode-string? either?
<6> er, good point
<6> both, so BaseString, right?
<6> so only isinstance(), correct?



<5> isinstance(xs, basestring)
<6> small letters?
<5> unless you're using a really big font, yes.
<7> Hey, does this work? Can you see this text? I need to test commands so that I can make a plugin for Xchat, this is using a Python interpreter to write. Not sure if it works, so please answer if you can see this damned message
<8> scorchsaber: I don't see it :-)
<7> :D
<7> Thanks
<6> Pythy: :)
<7> I want to try out 2 more things, if anybody has a problem with it...
<6> and if it was only for bytestring, what would be the answer?
<5> str
<6> and still with isinstance?
<5> yes
<6> tx
<5> jkt|: [type()'s primary usefulness is for debugging, e.g., `print type(p)'---not for altering control-flow due to type-testing, because type()-based testing won't include instances derived from the sought-after type. Also, explicit type-testing, even with isinstance(), sometimes hints that there are better approaches that should be considered.]
<7> So nobody saw a message by PyScorch?
<8> Pythy: I've spent a good deal of time recently debugging *my* code because some has decided to test for somecl***.__cl***__.__name__ in his code... you should also mention that one :-)
<8> some *gui
<8> guy um
<8> scorchsaber: nope
<9> scorchsaber: nope, and he wasn't connected to IRC recently either.
<10> how do I prevent python from printing a space for "print str," when str is an empty string?
<11> i have a string value (one byte) which i'd like to convert into its corresponding ascii integer value, how do i do this?
<12> Ironhand: tried print "%s" % str?
<13> ehaase, ord(mystr) ?
<11> ok, thanks
<14> I tried to spawn a background thread for a lenghty computation, but it only work partially. When I spawned the thread it's running and the next command is executed (changing the status), but then the UI hangs! I can't to a progress gauge, because nothing is reacting anymore. Any ideas? I have the source here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-449346-highlight-.html
<11> whats the meaning behind 'ord'? does it stand for something?
<10> bagu: same problem
<13> The ordinal position in the encoding space?
<12> >>> print "a%sa" % ""
<12> aa
<10> actually, my mistake
<10> it's the *next* print statement inserting a leading space...
<12> oh.. =)
<10> so ehrm... any clue how to stop that? :-)
<11> ok, thanks again
<12> Ironhand: what does the code look like?
<11> is there such thing as a switch statement in python?
<15> no
<5> Ironhand: sys.stdout.write('a');sys.stdout.write(''); sys.stdout.write('b') #==> ab
<10> >>> str = ''; print str, ; print 'a'
<10> a
<10> thanks Pythy, I ***ume that's the easiest way then
<12> you could continue with formats
<10> well, this is not the *actual* code, but shows the problem
<5> if s: print s,
<12> yeah, that too
<11> is there a replacement for a switch statement in python?
<10> that may be the best option, thanks
<5> ehaase: if/elif, or, a table-lookup to find the function to be called.
<16> hi
<17> yo
<18> Hello all
<18> How can I get the ASCII value of a char? Because simply using the int function doesn't work
<11> Pythy: thanks
<11> Hylk0r: ord()
<19> ord()
<18> wow, thanx :p
<20> if x is a cl*** variable of cl*** C, do you always have to refer to it as C.x inside C?



<21> gzl, yes, otherwise you'd be refering to the variable x in the local method.
<5> gzl: inside a method, you mean? If you didn't, how would Python know whether `x = 1' is to mean `C.x = 1', or, to create a local-variable `x'?
<21> gzl, you can use "x = C.x" to make the local variable x refer to the cl*** variable x.
<20> ok.
<19> what about for immutable objects, what if x changes, C.x won't change?
<20> and the same goes for cl*** methods?
<20> you have to write Cl***.foo() and not just foo() ?
<19> or vice-versa.
<5> correct:
<5> >>> cl*** C:
<5> x = 0
<5> def m(self): x = C.x; x+=1; print C.x, x
<5> >>> C().m() #==> 0 1
<20> no, I mean, *within* the definition of cl*** C, do you have to refer to that as C.m() ?
<5> C doesn't exist yet.
<22> dsuch : and what do you think about cherry ?
<8> I prefer peaches.
<8> But hey, cherries are OK too :)
<5> C only comes into existence after Python has finished reading the entire cl***-def.
<8> Pythy: >>> cl*** C:
<8> ... x+= 1
<8> ...
<8> >>> cl*** C:
<8> ... x+= 1
<8> eh
<8> NameError: name 'x' is not defined
<22> ehh ;-)
<5> dsuch: why would you expect otherwise?
<8> Pythy: it doesn't need to read the whole cl*** definition then?
<5> eh?
<21> dsuch, "x += 1" means get the value of x, add one to it, and set that to the new value of x.
<5> `x += 1' == `x = x + 1' # what's in x on the right hand side?
<21> *But* x doesn't exist until you ***ign something to it.
<21> So it can't get the value of it, hence you get that error.
<8> it exits as soon as it discovers that x ain't defined in that scope? it has no chance to read (non existant in that example) methods definitions?
<8> I know ebel :-)
<8> wait
<8> um
<8> Pythy: I completely misread your statement...
<16> Pythy: how long have you been coding in python if you don't mind me asking ?
<5> xroberx: About three years ago is when I first picked it up.
<5> 2.3 was the first version I tried.
<16> you have a very good knowledge :)
<19> pure genius is what I call it.
<5> xroberx: Not yet.
<18> what is the reverse function of ord?
<19> chr()
<5> chr() & unichr()
<18> WOW, y'all are so smart, where the hell do y'all find these functions?
<19> library reference.
<19> python 2.4 quick reference.
<19> our memory.
<5> The Post-It on my desk.
<19> help(__builtins__)
<18> ok, I gues I should read the reference more detailed, since I never find the functions although I do look in the reference :p
<18> sysfault: that's one to remember :p
<14> chr
<5> http://doc.python.org/lib/built-in-funcs.html
<18> Is there a function to convert an int to bin? in example: bin(4) returns 100
<5> ?>i2b@hylk0r
<5> hylk0r: (Why do you need it, BTW?)
<18> Pythy: i'm working on some sorta encryption :p
<11> whats the difference between popen() and spawn()?
<18> Pythy: i2b() doesn't exist, atleast not as a built-in function
<5> hylk0r: Look at the URL the bot PM'ed you.
<18> ok, thx :p
<18> i'il take a look :p
<11> is 'strip' in a module?
<5> ?>strmtd@ehaase
<11> i just need to remove a newline at the end of a string, strip() is what i shoul duse?
<5> ' \t a b \r \n \t '.strip() #==> 'a b'
<23> hi all
<18> Ok, I've got a pretty stupid question, but why does:
<18> print "Loopz0r: ", Loopz0r


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