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<0> Brainwalker: too less mail traffic
<1> split chroot?
<2> zerberus: hmm, is there a solution for it ?
<0> Brainwalker: http://www.renaissoft.com/pipermail/maia-users/2006-February/005767.html
<2> thx, will have a look at it
<2> heh, this is really funny ;)
<3> f3ew i've disabled it from master.cf
<4> how can i set up so that deliveries that gets rejected more than x number of times automatically will be ignored?
<4> i have spam hosts trying to get through, their delivery gets blocked, but they keep hogging my smtp
<2> zerberus: best thing to solve it is, to subscribe to a mailing list like linux kernel ,)
<3> f3ew i'll disable chroot in the "smtp" process too
<1> zamba script it
<4> f3ew: by using syslog?
<1> shell/perl + tail
<4> yeah, but i basically have to parse the logs
<4> there's no event triggered internally in postfix i can catch?
<0> zamba: man anvil
<4> Zerberus: no manual entry for that
<5> help me mail for xxxx.com loops back to myself, what is problem
<0> zamba: then your postfix is too old
<0> gerol: that is a faq
<5> i cant any solution
<4> Zerberus: using debian sarge here, so that may very well be
<0> gerol: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#unknown_virtual_loop
<6> f3ew: question for u, a while back
<6> f3ew: someone kept sending mail FROM=<> to=<blah@domain.dowmain.that.doesnt.exist>
<6> f3ew: (trying to)
<6> f3ew: how could I block such e-mail w/postfix?
<6> f3ew: without blocking FROM=<>
<6> f3ew: since the domain does not exist, I cannot REJECT the email in sender_checks
<6> f3ew: because it checks for a valid hostname first
<6> f3ew: it is annoying because each req like that takes about 120-360 seconds to timeout
<5> Feb 26 01:19:27 erol pop3d: authentication error: Input/output error
<5> what is error
<5> help me pls
<0> gerol: not a postfix problem
<5> pgsql ? or authdaemondrc
<5> Error sending p***word: -ERR Temporary problem, please try again later
<7> Hi
<7> I have a question I'm hoping someone can answer...
<7> My original (Ubuntu) configuration used 'localhost.localdomain' and was causing problems with some mail servers that wanted a 'real domain' instead...
<7> So I modified my configuration to '________@isp.ca' and this solved all my external email routing problems...
<7> The problem currently is that local emails destined for 'root' are now being mailed to 'root@______.isp.ca' when they should go to 'root@localhost'...
<0> Xenguy: why did you do when " modified my configuration to '________@isp.ca'"?
<7> So I'm looking for a way to keep the external mail servers happy with my current configuration, and yet make sure that email for 'root' is routed only locally.
<0> an email address hardly can be a hostname
<7> Zerberus: my syntax may be incorrect there, sorry
<7> Zerberus: I believe, yes, there is no '@'
<7> Zerberus: anyway, my question stands: I need a way to route local email to 'root' without it being sent out externally to my isp's 'smart host'
<0> let it be a local destination
<7> Zerberus: that sounds exactly like what I want...
<7> Zerberus: Is there a specific parameter that would accomplish this?
<0> Xenguy: mydestination
<7> Zerberus: thanks for the pointer; I'm looking this up in main.cf right now
<7> Zerberus: here is my current configuration (I've changed the actual hostname to 'host') ...
<7> mydestination = host, host.localhost, host.localhost.localdomain, localhost, localhost.localdomain, localhost.localhost.localdomain
<0> lol
<7> Zerberus: OK, so I take it this is not a well-formed configuration? :-)
<0> indeed a lot of foo
<7> Zerberus: Is it just redundant, or dangerously wrong? :-)
<0> makes mostly zero sense
<7> And I guess going back to my original question, should I for example add 'root' to this line?
<0> please read the postfix basic docs
<7> Obviously I do not understand this parameter then
<0> to understand what "mydestination" should contain
<7> Alright, I will try again. Can you tell me whether 'root' would be a valid entry (with respect to my original problem) ?
<7> er, try reading those docs again
<0> no, it will not be
<7> Zerberus: I am rather lost with this I think, and hoping you are willing to help me out...
<7> The documentation says "The default is $myhostname + localhost.$mydomain. On a mail domain gateway, you should also include $mydomain."
<7> with regard to mydestination
<0> set your hostname properly, so you don't have to fiddle with it
<7> In my case I have 'myhostname = 206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca'
<0> a dynamic IP address?
<7> it is static
<7> er, a static IP I mean
<7> (This was what a *nix admin at my ISP recommended in order to avoid having email I sent to the outside being rejected by some mail servers...
<7> I did this because with my current setup I am using the ISP's "smart host" (if that is the correct term) to hand off my outgoing email to
<0> edit /etc/hosts to have a mapping for that hostname
<7> Also I have this parameter set: mydomain = ncf.ca
<7> Zerberus: re /etc/hosts: I know that file and its purpose, but I don't understand what you are driving at
<7> Zerberus: unfortunately you seem more interested in offering cryptic advice rather than specific suggestions :-/
<7> That's too bad, because if true, it means that I am here for help but cannot get it.
<0> if your system does not know how it is named itself and which domains/hostnames are local ones, you will have problems
<0> you refused to tell us why exactly you modified
<7> I have refused nothing
<0> but you didn't answer my question
<7> I am happy to provide whatever information is relevant
<7> Let me look at the buffer again, and see if I can do better
<0> use pastebin and publish "postconf -n" and /etc/hosts content
<0> and your `hostname` output
<7> OK, that I can certainly do.
<7> Zerberus: damn, supper is served - I will return as soon as possible afterwards to post that information to some suitable pastebin
<0> i have some eating myself now
<8> mjt: ayt ?
<9> hello, I'm using amavisd-new , and the spam level is 6.31 by default, but still quiet a few spam mails get trough with 4.32 and even 3.52 score, I was wondering is it a wise choice to go down to 4 or even 3 ?
<0> no
<0> better add rules to spam******in
<9> one of my more wiser users (I'm ironic here :) ), got herself registered so it seems at some wrong sites, and she recieves a lot of viagra stuff :)
<9> Zerberus : since the spam comes from all locations, I don't know what I can do , domain based filtering would be useless no?
<0> http://www.rulesemporium.com/ http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour
<9> I'm looking into her mailbox
<9> wow, thanx!
<9> WOW! these sites are good, thank you very-very-very much Zerberus!
<0> setting the spam level too low raises false positives
<9> yeah, I'm reading the site, it says so, I'm going to invest some time into this matter, it will eventualy pay back, thank you, and good night :)
<9> 02:19 here
<10> if postfix wasn't part of the mail group when I started it, would restarting it make the group changes take effect?
<7> Zerberus: Hi - back, and the info you asked for is at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9334
<0> Xenguy: add to /etc/hosts: 206.248.151.3 206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca
<0> you said that is your static IP
<7> Zerberus: still trying to fix a problem with local root mail being sent externally instead of internally (e.g. sending daemon mail to root@my-isp.ca)
<7> yes, static
<0> set in main.cf: mydestination = localhost, localhost.localdomain, 206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca
<0> change hostname to be 206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca
<7> wow, OK so I just sync up my configuration totally with my ISP
<7> Zerberus: thank you very much; I hope this will do it finally (although I've wondered if I should just set up my own domain/DNS and get away from handing off mail to the ISP server, but that's another project for later :-)
<11> absolutely.
<7> I think I am learning too from being able to analyze a *correct* configuration
<12> the isp _needs_ your mail to survive!
<7> lunaphyte: heh
<10> I can't figure this out :(
<12> seems like procmail always ends up in abusive relationships.
<10> for some reason I can't get postfix/procmail to create a mailbox thing for me in /var/spool/mail
<10> the permissions are all correct
<10> the only thing I can think of is that postfix wasn't originally part of the mail group, but I added it and restarted
<12> start w/ 777 and work your way down.
<10> I'm sure it'll work if I chmod it 777 ... but I want to know why it's not working with the correct permissions
<12> does procmail have a command to run as a certain user?
<10> no not that I know of
<10> mailbox_command in /etc/postfix/main.cf has procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
<12> can you touch files in /var/spool/mail as postfix user?
<10> grrr, it didn't set the group!
<10> though that still didn't fix it
<10> if I su - postfix, I can touch things in /var/spool/mail
<12> mbox or maildir?
<10> lunaphyte: I'm using Maildir, but this would be for local mail via mbox
<11> Are we making and checking procmail logs?
<10> I'm just checking /var/log/maillog
<10> all I want is local delivery (sending e-mail to mysticone@localhost)
<11> I thought a few hours ago I saw someone suggest VERBOSE=yes and LOGABSTRACT=all
<10> not me
<11> procmail doesn't use syslog, at least not my procmail.
<10> Feb 25 18:08:29 puddlejumper postfix/local[1131]: 44D69DACFE: to=<mysticone@localhost>, orig_to=<mysticone@foxybanana.com>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (can't create user output file. Command output: procmail: Couldn't create "/var/mail/mysticone" )
<10> that's the error I'm getting
<11> ah, ok.
<10> and /var/mail is a symlink to /var/spool/mail
<11> and mysticone is a local Unix user?
<10> correct
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