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<0> hi
<0> anyone could give a hint how to make postfix work with dovecot with non system user accounts, but logins and p***words stored in a mysql database or a text file ??
<1> thanks for your help last night guys, f3ew's method of setting relayhost on the smtp clients worked, now all mail is being forwarded to the local smptd server
<1> i have ques: /me rtfm's a bit more at postfix.org
<1> postfix's docs rock btw
<0> Can I make postfix authentificated throught a text file (not p***wd) but p***wd like
<1> neat
<1> oh
<1> i thought you said you were doing that already lol
<1> i-e: virtual users? sure but i'm not sure if it will be in p***wd file format
<0> i would like to integrate postfix with dovecot
<0> and use the same authentification
<0> based on the same file
<0> and as I found out dovecot is able to do so but not sure about postfix
<2> Auth in Postfix with Dovecot SASL is exceedingly easy, with a 2.3 snapshot and Dovecot 1.0beta.
<2> An explicit HOWTO is in the Postfix SASL_README.html .



<2> Look also at the WARNING section: Wietse likes Dovecot SASL.
<0> aand where is this howto ?
<0> could I have one more question
<0> concerning this postfix dovecot integration
<2> Not from me, I'm off to bed. If you had asked, rather than asking to ask, I might have answered. G'night. :)
<2> !basic
<3> rob0: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
<0> Can I have postfix authentificate using a simple file containing user and p***word data ??
<4> i-e: Yes.
<0> it's set using sasl ??
<4> By using cyrus-sasl with PAM, and having pam use the pwdfile module.
<4> Using saslauthd.
<0> damn
<0> so it;s hard to configure
<4> Not really.
<0> been trying for a couple of days
<0> and couldn't make it all work
<4> cyrus-sasl has saslauthd, you just need to have it use -a pam, and in /etc/pam.d or /etc/pam.conf, whichever your distro uses, for imap and pop services, use the pam_pwdfile module. Pretty simple. Really.
<5> hey guys, quick question - installing postfix on RHEL3 from up2date, but it seems that 'sendmail' still points to sendmail's script
<5> how can I update /usr/bin/sendmail to the postfix version?
<4> Darien: Try #RedHat?
<5> ok, let me rephrase first
<0> you have to change the mta
<5> should /usr/bin/sendmail be pointing to a different binary/script ?
<0> no
<5> ok
<4> It should be pointing to postfix.
<0> it shouldn't
<5> i-e: ?
<0> I've got fc4 with postfix
<0> and it points to sendmail
<4> Yeah, postfix's sendmail wrapper. :p
<0> yeah
<5> yeah, but I don't seem to have postfix's sendmail wrapper
<5> and tbh I wouldn't expect #redhat to really know what was going on
<4> Heh. Yeah. Well, Most RedHatters don't know jack about Linux. :p
<5> well this is just it
<5> I'd expect four people saying 'why don't you just use sendmail?' and maybe two or three saying 'you must be one of those Debian losers'
<1> Darien: do an rpm -qf /usr/sbin/sendmail whatya get?
<5> courier-0.51.0-1.3ES
<5> postfix-2.0.16-14.RHEL3
<1> two results?
<4> I love how postfix does this:
<4> Feb 23 02:03:01 valhalla postfix/trivial-rewrite[18718]: warning: dict_ldap_open: vtransport-lmtp: Fixed query_filter (&(mailHost=mail.furreville.net)(mailDeliveryOption=lmtp)(inetMailHostStatus=active)) is probably useless
<5> yep
<5> hehe
<6> lol
<1> weak
<4> stuNNed: Eh?
<1> Psi-Jack: no weak he gets two results
<4> Ohhhh
<4> Heh.
<1> Darien: then your /usr/sbin/sendmail is the postfix wrapper script, apparently.
<5> root@sharethebeat:/etc/postfix$ /usr/sbin/sendmail -v
<5> /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 0: cannot open: No such file or directory
<5> that's what's confusing me
<4> I guess, if I wanted, I could adjust my search base to use dc=%d in the query_filter, instead of the search base. :)
<7> morning
<4> i-e: You have a fracking annoying "nospam" script. Use the channel, please.
<0> ok
<4> i-e: And, I seriously recommend, loosing the script.



<4> In Freenode, you don't need it anyway.
<0> it's out :)
<0> ok how this mech works, postfix+sasl+pam+dovecot
<1> i-e: by your reading the fine manual.
<0> I just did that
<0> but I'm kinda confused now
<4> i-e: Wanna be more confused? Use cyrus-imapd, instead of that weak dovecot. :)
<0> no
<1> i-e: Psi-Jack explained it pretty clearly
<0> tryied that
<4> Heh.
<4> Cyrus-IMAPD is pretty simple, really.
<4> It's just very... Not well documented by HOWTO sites, mainly. It's well documented within itself.
<0> :(
<4> But it can do more than Courier-IMAP and Dovecot put together.
<4> Sweet..
<4> LDAP-based mailDeliveryAgent lookups is now working. :D
<4> Just gotta get the LDAP-based lmtp-auth lookup in, and it'll be fully functional
<0> but I just want to have virtual users that could be managed easily
<4> i-e: Cyrus-IMAPD /can/ in fact, do that. :)
<4> stuNNed: I dunno.. What do you think? Should I try to include Dovecot and Courier-IMAP in my book I'm doing?
<8> i-e: http://high5.net -> postfixadmin
<4> alleycat: That depends on mysql, doesn't it?
<1> Psi-Jack: i would think so imho. dovecot is pretty simple to set up.
<0> it sounds nice
<8> Psi-Jack: yes.
<4> It's .. Alright. And it does work.
<4> Not good for HS, though.
<4> Err, excuse me, HA.
<4> stuNNed: True, but my book is about setting up High Availability, High Scalability, Clusterable servers.
<4> Dovecot and Courier-IMAP are able to be done both HA and HS, so long as the Maildir's get duplicated, for example, rsync'd.. But it's not guaranteed to be sane on all hosts, even on a good setup.
<0> be back here in a min
<4> Unless you specifically, and always, deliver mail to one "master" maildrop, and rsync off that. Which quickly and easily breaks the whole HA concept.
<4> stuNNed: or do you know any better means to do it? :)
<4> Hmm, thinking on that.. Even if you do rsync from the master... If someone were to connect to anything other than the master imap/pop server, manage mail, delete, etc.. It wouldn't reflect back on the master.
<4> Cyrus overcomes all that with murder & mupdate
<1> then no you shouldn't include dovecot and courier-imap :)
<1> Psi-Jack: but really i have no fscking clue :)
<4> hehe
<7> any1 has an idea where this come from : "postfix/smtpd[5731]: fatal: connect #11 to subsystem private/rewrite: Permission denied"
<4> Sorry, I'm just thinking out-loud, really. ;)
<0> ok i'm back :)
<9> Psi-Jack, in a cluster all servers usualy see the same filesystem either tru san/nas or schared scsi so there is no need to rsync it.
<0> now I'm on the test server where I can try to conf that postfix out :)
<4> sep: This is true, for localized clusters. But I'm considering geographically different clusters as well.
<9> san's can be geograficaly different
<9> iscsi makes the thing even affordable...
<9> :)
<4> That's a pretty good point!
<9> or use one of the many Distributed Filesystems out there
<4> So you're basically suggesting NFS or AFS mounting.
<4> More so, AFS, it sounds.
<9> aye, or just iscsi the san directly into the server.
<4> Distributed filesystems? What exactly do those do?
<4> It that basically mirroring filesystems over the wire?
<9> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_file_system
<4> Oh.
<4> Heh.
<4> I just call those network filesystems, myself. :p
<0> smtp_sasl_p***word_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_p***wd
<0> if i'll use that
<0> I could conf everything in this file
<10> hey, i was wondering the helo hostname that postfix implements when it makes smtp connections outbound, is this configured in the code, or is there a parameter in the config. I can only see restrictions inbound from other servers
<4> There should be a peer-2-peer self-duplicating network filesystem. :)
<9> http://labs.google.com/papers/gfs.html
<9> BitTorrentFileSystem ? BTFS ...hehe
<4> Interesting..
<9> yes it is, but i cant find a download link ;)
<4> A real P2P filesystem would need to store all timestamps of files, including keeping deleted files, marked, until all hosts were validated as concurrent.
<4> And it would be the perfect filesystem ever. ;)
<4> i-e: I've said once, USE the channel.
<4> Now I've said it twice.
<0> ok so may I ?
<4> Use the channel. I'm not the only one that could possibly help you. Just stop PMing people.


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