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<0> imho its not arrived in the incoming q correct
<0> the arrival time == ?? is suspious
<1> i know :(
<1> how do I know which q it's in?
<1> thanks for thinking :)
<2> grep 0F40B79641 /your/mail/log
<0> haroldp: its not there ;(
<0> benlake: find /var/spool/postfix -type f
<1> roger
<0> benlake: is there a file like a queue id ?
<1> one sec
<1> that particular message has p***ed
<1> have to recreate problem
<2> I wanna see what postfix said to syslog about that message
<3> anyone here using helo_restrictions?
<1> awe



<1> the one's in the que are in maildrop
<1> crap, I knew that! I've been working on this for 12 hours!
<1> looks like I only have one head on the problem now... if that! :)
<2> I have no idea what's going on.
<4> rob0, got it, one other question. When the spammers are abusing the MX backup, if their IP is RBL-ed, the backup still accepts the message for delivery, is there some sort of configuration that can be used to reject the mail as oppose to q it?
<2> you have ignored my questions
<2> so I can't really help.
<1> what did I ignore?
<1> I didn't mean to!
<2> find that queue id in your mail og
<2> log
<1> it's not there man :(
<2> if you 'telnet localhost 25' and then just type "quit" does it show up in your mail log?
<1> they really don't show up in the log
<1> lemme check
<5> for a virutal user to have their own maildroprc would you just drop it in /home/vmail/domain/user/.maildroprc ?
<1> yes
<1> postfix/smtpd[1204]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
<2> lawnchair: put .maildroprc in whereever $HOME is when maildrop is ivnoked
<5> okay
<5> thanks
<5> haroldp, whats the diff from .maildroprc and .mailfilter ?
<2> benlake: ok, so postfix is logging, and you know where the right log file lives. good.
<2> uh
<1> :P
<2> maildrop will read .mailfilter :)
<5> gotcha
<5> but i suppose you dont *need* it
<2> "maildroprc" no dot, is a global config file name
<5> i have that
<5> adn am using successfully
<5> just 1 user needs a personal one
<2> and there's the maildroprcs/ directory with bl***ed .mailfilter-style scripts
<2> blessed
<5> got it
<2> benlake: no reproduce the error, and paste the logs of that event
<5> thanks for the info
<2> s/no/so/
<1> sir, yes sir
<2> :)
<1> ok, I tailed the log to another file so you only see what happened when I sent the messages
<2> better
<1> now if...
<1> http://pastebin.com/595348
<1> it only picks up 1 of them...
<1> something hay wire in the pickup?
<1> what does the pickup? qmgr?
<1> cleanup?
<1> or... pickup? :P
<2> I only see one message being sent. it looks like it went out without issue
<2> 29B9979C03 is not listed in your mailq
<1> I know cause it got sent :)
<1> I sent 4 messages
<1> 3 got 'stuck' one sent
<1> the one that sent was the only one that produced log messages
<2> you showed me a log of sending 1 message.
<2> how were the other three sent?
<2> cc? bcc? seperate?
<1> that was all the activity from me sending mail to postfix
<1> the other three are still stuck... hence the problem :P



<1> nope, just strait to:
<1> it doesn't matter how I get them there
<2> so each was a separate message?
<1> so i've just been doing $mail -s blah email@mail.com
<1> yes
<2> send using the standard unix 'mail' app?
<1> yep
<2> which exited with a successful status?
<1> yep
<1> every way I send it reports success
<1> if I send more mail now, that which is stuck... gets sent
<2> paste your `mail` sedning lines
<1> and some, and sometimes none, of the new messages get stuck
<2> "gets stuck" is not a useful diagnostic
<1> cat pear.conf | mail -s test ben@wieck.com; cat pear.conf | mail -s test ben@wieck.com; cat pear.conf | mail -s test ben@wieck.com; cat pear.conf | mail -s test ben@wieck.com;
<2> ah.
<2> pear?
<1> sits in the queue that you can see on pastebin
<1> :) um.... yeah
<2> heh
<1> I just picked a file :P
<2> you are *not* checking the exit status of those
<1> but...but...
<1> apparently you're done with me :P
<2> you're not good at this.
<1> hence the IRC
<1> :)
<2> show me that postfix is telling mail that it has accepted four messages.
<1> and $50
<1> If I'm supposed to find that in the log...
<1> then we both lose
<2> check the exit code for each one.
<1> how might I do that?
<2> mail ... && echo "mail sez that worked"
<1> I tried echo... would it report nothing if it was successful?
<2> mail ... || echo "mail exited with status $?"
<1> echo mail blah
<1> no logical ops
<1> are the log ops what we're going to use to produce our exit status?
<2> you can do it on two lines if you are having trouble with the plumbing
<1> hehe
<2> ls; echo $?;
<4> When the spammers are abusing the MX backup, if their IP is RBL-ed, the backup still accepts the message for delivery, is there some sort of configuration that can be used to reject the mail as oppose to q it?
<2> mad: put the same check on the backup that you have on the main server
<6> Can anyone tell me why im getting this: Mar 11 09:33:36 evo postfix/postdrop[15383]: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/937108.15383: No such file or directory , every second or so in syslog, mail.warn, mail.log and mail.info?
<6> i've just set up postfix with mysql and courier and its driving me crazy :/
<2> fen: does the user's $HOME exists?
<6> which user?
<4> haroldp, i do have it on both, but when the mail is sent through backup it just accepts it, without doing a rbl check.
<6> the one that postfix is running on?
<2> madclicker: then you did something wrong
<2> fen: the user for whom the message is destined
<6> i don't know which user its trying to deliver the mail to..
<6> its a virtual user in the mysql database
<2> The postdrop command creates a file in the maildrop directory and
<2> copies its standard input to the file.
<2> do you have one of those?
<1> haroldp: http://pastebin.com/595405
<1> NEW #1
<6> haroldp, thats the thing i have nfi where to look for it.
<6> the postdrop command is running as user smmsp, which does not have a home directory could that be a problem?
<2> you should have a "maildrop" directory in `postconf queue_directory`
<4> haroldp, wrong where?
<6> queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
<6> ls -l /var/spool/postfix
<6> ..
<6> drwx-wx--- 2 postfix postdrop 4096 2006-03-11 09:40 maildrop
<6> ..
<6> etc
<2> ls -l your maildrop application, please
<2> er
<2> ls -l your postdrop application, please
<6> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mail 140380 2005-08-30 21:47 /usr/bin/maildrop


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