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<0> Manyfold, you can't convert irc nicks into phone numbers? I'm disappointed <:|
<1> lol
<2> we need more goodlooking girls in #physics
<2> suggestions?
<1> we dont really need them
<2> mefistofeles: well you simply don't cut it
<0> Manyfold, all girls are good looking you just have an ugly brain ;)
<2> :)
<2> so who is left?
<3> wooo woooooo
<4> oh ye
<3> there is a latex plugin for gaim???
<3> sweet
<5> only renders if the window has been open, and you don't switch workspaces.
<5> otherwise it's pretty sweet
<6> Hey guys , have you ever been on alex chiu's website?
<4> who is he
<7> doesn't ring a bell
<7> hmm speaking of which I wonder what kind of sound wave distribution a rung bell produces. 3d 'resonance'
<8> howdy
<9> voot!!....i totaly raped that final exam!
<9> mwhahaha!
<9> stuck it in!
<9> bah...where is Manyfold?.....i swair he wanted me to fail :P
<9> such a bitter guy...
<2> hello
<10> hey
<2> JabberWalkie: are you there?
<9> Manyfold: yea
<2> how was your exam?
<9> Manyfold: good....i whooped its ***
<9> but i have another one tomorrow, on proof...
<2> well you know there are just 2 interesting PDE's anyway
<9> going to be much harder I think...
<2> wave and diffussion
<9> diffussion? like the linear heat equation?
<2> well they'll ask you to proof that pi is irrational
<9> Manyfold: errr.....dont know about that.......
<2> like schrdinger eqn
<2> wait tomrrow is saturday
<9> Manyfold: for you
<2> ?
<9> its still thursday here...
<2> whqat's your time?
<9> 9pm abouts
<2> well i have 6:10 and i just awackened
<9> hmmm.....how to prove that pi is irrational...
<2> anyway time to start the day
<9> Manyfold: have fun....
<2> JabberWalkie: i'll tell you next time just ask me
<9> k...
<11> ***ume pi = a/b and show a contradiction
<9> hondje: yea but i need to know some basic properties of pi.....and im not sure what i can use
<9> like using a taylor expansion on arctan might be overkill....
<12> JabberWalkie: how about constructing an N-gon, as N->infty
<9> Hydrargyrum: yea that could work.....but i doubt ill get a question like that....
<9> if anything it will be somthing like prove sqrt(5) is irrational
<9> not pi :P
<11> Hydrargyrum: Someone stole your nick?
<12> hondje: I stole my nick
<12> I logged in with a new one before old one pinged out
<12> not a big deal, considering this is the correct spelling anyway
<9> why cant people learn about the wonders of ghosting...
<12> my brain is full
<13> well, my pool ball simulation is coming along... so far ive got momentum being mostly conserved, but energy isnt behaving
<14> im really liking this channel
<15> jreggelt! morning
<0> I only found one decent cartoon this morning.
<16> what is the interpretation referenced in these two paragraphs? (quantum mechanics related) http://tinyurl.com/m9ph4
<2> hello
<16> hello
<17> Manyfold:hello
<2> hi pgm
<16> where can I read Feynman's PhD thesis ?
<16> sum-rules describe quantum processes, right ?
<16> boing
<18> hey Danf_DrC
<0> feynman's thesis chttp://tinyurl.com/s84zj
<16> table of contents :)
<0> feynman's thesis http://tinyurl.com/s84zj
<0> really :(
<16> but it was a nice shot hehe (that's what I found upon googling)
<0> I was going to suggest cal techs site
<16> hm?
<2> so what is renormalization all about and why can i use it?
<2> is there any mathematical justification for it?
<2> any takers?
<16> sum-rules describe quantum processes, right ?
<19> well some rules certainly do :P
<16> heh
<2> kanzure: you integrate over the weighted action
<16> Manyfold, what? I think you dropped a few context-clues for me :(
<16> *you forgot
<2> lets suppose L is our langrangian
<2> we know from cl***ical mechanics that delta L=0
<16> well, first I have to point out that I am but a newbie, and lack the calculus and physics to immediately understand you
<16> you were telling me what to do (integrate over the weighted action), whereas I was asking something seemingly different
<16> unless you can show how the two (my question, your answer) are related :)
<16> Manyfold, ?
<2> kanzure: it's hopeless to explain this to you without calculus
<16> what about some basic calculus?
<16> basically I have the jist of (anti)differentiation but no hard-experience
<19> integration is basic calculus :|
<2> but i thought you asked for the quantum path fomalism
<16> hmm
<16> maybe I did
<2> oh i made a misstake
<2> S is the action
<2> S=int L dt
<2> now delta S=0
<16> hm, how can I word my question? (proper background would help for starters like myself)
<16> I look at the sum-of-paths idea as a method of predicting quantum states, (right so far?)
<2> kanzure read QED by feynman
<16> so in essence it is the start of a method of predicting processes, like (on a larger scale) perhaps the behavior of an atom
<16> but is that right? Are path integrals the "path" to predicting atomic behavior (among other things)?
<16> Manyfold, certainly :)
<2> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691024170/sr=8-1/qid=1154116851/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-6600398-5897706?ie=UTF8
<16> yeah I had it up ;)
<2> well the path refers to something more abstract
<16> right
<2> the langragian describes the system in a space called configuration space
<16> the idea of the paths, however, is that once you add them up, you get the quantum amplitude
<2> which is Q x V x t
<16> (what is? a continuation to your message, or mine ?)
<2> where Q are the statial dimensions V are the velocities and t is time
<2> we should ban everyone not an undergraduate physics student
<2> spatial
<16> is there an 'index'? the states of the particles are only applicable to those particles, so I doubt that the langragian is --
<16> oh :( spatial :(
<2> yes thats the basic idea add up over every possible path
<16> and this quantum or probability amplitude describes the particle's position, yes? (per Wikipedia)
<2> darkgreen: whats prozack?
<16> I think it's something for old people heh'
<0> anit-depressent mispelled.
<16> or at least the more elderly
<16> ah nevermind
<2> kanzure: lrts first get a grip of that langrangian thing
<16> so I was originally thinking that the sum-over-possible-paths is like a precursor to building (modeling) of larger processes, hopefully one day on the scale of entire atoms, molecules, and larger
<16> since the sum would describe the probability of a certain position
<2> kanzure: stop babbling and listen
<16> Manyfold, sorry :)
<16> do go on
<2> that's what i hate most about noobs
<16> we listen?
<0> no that you try to be creative
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