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<0> I spent a good 45 minutes
<1> now set the c=1
<2> XPX1: well come back when you have spent hours
<1> and you will see
<0> is this problem really that hard?
<2> XPX1: also, read your textbook (if you have one)
<0> no textbook
<0> lol
<2> XPX1: no, the process of learning somthing new is what is hard
<0> everything is done online
<1> XPX1: it teaches you problem solving
<2> the problem is quite simple once you understand it
<0> ill give it some more tries
<0> afk
<1> puh
<2> so i can't get my printer to work...
<1> where is hondje he had such a charming manner dealing with this guys
<2> stupid linux....
<1> JabberWalkie: what happened to your microprocessor?
<2> Manyfold: there is nothing wrong with learning :P.....its just people that expect it to come without effort...they bug me....
<2> Manyfold: oh its still working
<2> Manyfold: i actually left it on all night
<1> you got it connected?
<2> Manyfold: it was executing the same program all night long
<2> Manyfold: yeah
<1> compiling a new glibc? :)
<3> JabberWalkie, installed CUPS?
<2> i used minicom and it worked, nearly right away
<2> mwc: no i gave up on that, and submitted a bug report
<3> printers are ridiculously easy on linux now
<1> mwc: i have cups over here
<3> unless you bought one without checking linuxprinting.org
<3> and you bought a paperweight
<2> mwc: no, mine is supported
<1> mine too
<2> mwc: its just that CUPS is screwed up beyond belief
<3> old or unstable version?
<2> well its the newest one in portage 1.2.7
<1> mwc: do you also use cups?
<3> Ah, gentoo
<2> i think thats the latest stable....
<3> there's your problem
<2> i hate gentoo....
<3> Manyfold, I did when I had a printer
<2> mwc: how is gentoo the problem?
<1> JabberWalkie: when did you do your last emerge sync?
<3> Just seems that things seem to **** up often on Gentoo
<2> Manyfold: not too long ago...
<1> mwc: gentoo is cool
<2> mwc: true
<2> one thing is for sure....gentoo makes me want a faster processor
<2> stupid compiling...
<1> JabberWalkie: do you have a second box there?
<2> i would like to go back to debian....but I would loose everything...
<2> Manyfold: no...
<1> JabberWalkie: then you could try distributed compiling
<3> I enjoy arch. Like debian, binary packages which are adequate 99% of the time
<3> and like Gentoo, I can easily tweak the PKGBUILD for a custom package
<4> I use windows XP :)
<1> http://distcc.samba.org/doc/lca2004/distcc-lca-2004.html
<2> what i need is a dual core processor....
<2> one core to compile all the time...
<2> the other so i can actually use my computer :S
<1> wait some time 4X core are coming
<3> JabberWalkie, SCHED_BATCH is your friend
<2> yea for how much......like 2000$ :P
<1> DanF_DrC: whom did you boot from this channel yesterday?
<2> SCHED_BATCH?
<3> and SCHED_IDLE especially, but I think that's only in the -ck patchset
<4> Manyfold, kick? noone
<3> JabberWalkie, Since 2.6.16, there's been a SCHED_BATCH mode that gives longer time slices but very high preemptibility to processes
<3> it's meant for things like compiling
<3> install schedtool
<2> makes this go faster?
<3> then do schedtool -B -e $myreallylongcmd
<3> JabberWalkie, well, it will keep other processes very snappy
<2> ahh...
<3> and they claim that the long timeslices let it really maximize the use of the cache, giving 300% speedups
<3> though I doubt that's typical
<5> sorry, i haven't read the cdiscussion, but if you're looking for compilation speedups, try distcc
<1> (01:07:15) Manyfold: http://distcc.samba.org/doc/lca2004/distcc-lca-2004.html
<3> naura, he does't have a dual core CPU or a second comp
<4> isn't there a channel better suited for linux chat?
<5> haha, i prefixed it with a disclaimer...
<3> JabberWalkie, http://freshmeat.net/projects/schedtool/
<6> Title: freshmeat.net: Project details for schedtool
<1> JabberWalkie: we could tunnel it over ssh and i lend you processing time on my boxes
<3> JabberWalkie, if you go to the -ck patchset, there's an additional SCHED_IDLE policy that works like SCHED_BATCH but only grants CPU time when no other processes want it
<1> mwc: which sheduler do you have compiled in?
<4> isn't there a channel better suited for linux chat?
<3> Whatever's in mainline.
<3> DanF_DrC, it's FReenode. Live with it
<3> We're supporting physicists with linux problems :)
<1> DanF_DrC: no there isn't especially as you are talking about religion and ufo here
<4> of course you are
<2> :)
<4> only when applicable
<3> Manyfold, whatever's in the mainline kernel that arch ships
<3> I haven't bothered to recompile it
<1> mwc: you use debian?
<3> Nope, Archlinux
<2> distcc requires other boxes :S
<3> that being said, I also run http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ sometimes
<6> Title: The kernel patch homepage of Con Kolivas
<2> i wonder if i can use the universities computers....
<3> from that page
<3> SCHED_BATCH:
<3> This is for tasks you explicitly want the cpu scheduler to know are never interactive and thus should never receive low latency treatment. Their cpu usage is dependant on their nice value. This policy is also supported by mainline now which is why there is a change of the naming/numbering scheme.
<3> SCHED_IDLEPRIO:
<3> This is for tasks you never want to use cpu if *anything* else wants cpu time. That is they only ever use spare cpu cycles that would have otherwise been idle time on the machine.
<1> JabberWalkie: should i give you an account on my box?
<2> Manyfold: sure if you want
<1> we could nice the compilation process to -18
<7> eXistenZ - can you help me pls
<2> dosn't that make it hog everything?
<1> but beware it's just a Semprom 2300+
<1> well i don't really need my comp atm
<2> im going to try to get this scheduler working first....
<3> JabberWalkie, why don't you try running your emerge at a SCHED_BATCH first
<7> can you help me pls
<7> ??
<3> that way the rest of your system should stay nice and usable even under heavy comp
<1> i am reading through differential forms with applications in physical sciences atm
<2> mwc: how do i do that exactly?
<3> JabberWalkie, download and install schedtool
<3> should be in portage already
<3> then just run schedtool -B - e emerge -emerge-flags
<2> im compiling gcc right now.....i dont want to stop it...
<3> okay
<3> well, if you have schedtool installed
<1> mwc: i think the problem is he can't sleep when his comp is on all night
<3> you can use it to reset the policy of existing processes
<2> that too...
<3> Manyfold, distcc is still gonna require that his comp be on
<1> those student flats must be really small
<7> mwc can you help me pls
<7> ?
<1> yeh no perfect solution at all
<1> bulebule: please state your problem
<7> thanx
<3> bulebule, you'll find you get better results if you state your problem instead of asking like you are
<3> check the topic
<7> can you sign up for me to site
<7> i cant
<7> ?
<1> ???
<3> how exactly is htis a physics issue
<1> mwc: best today was the guy asking for int exp(x)/x
<7> can you help me
<7> its important
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