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<0> Anyone know about Ion trap quantum information science?
<0> I have an interview with a group that researches that - i need some information on it
<1> johnflux: so what do you know about qbits?
<2> Manyfold: so hows the job going??
<2> keeping the floors clean?
<1> should i clean your room?
<2> nah.....its reasonably clean...
<0> Manyfold: A bit. I know about bra-kets
<0> Manyfold: qbit's are like a|0> + b|1> where a is the chance of the qbit being 0, and b is the chance of the qbit being 1
<1> http://www.quiprocone.org/Protected/DD_lectures.htm <- watch these
<1> a and b are complex numbers
<0> right
<0> you can add them and so on
<0> then take the square to get the actual probabilty
<0> hmm
<0> no



<0> I'll watch those
<1> do complex numbers really reflect probalities?
<0> Manyfold: thanks :)
<0> With light, you deal with the probability amplitude
<0> you square that to get the probability
<0> I'm pretty sure it's similar with the qubits, but I think you take the real part only first
<1> argh
<0> (it's like with a photon. the real part is the electric field, and the imaginary part is the magnetic field - or something like that)
<0> so the probability is the square of the real part
<0> it's been like 3 years since I looked at it :(
<1> johnflux: does unitary ring a bell with you?
<0> hmm, remind me
<2> unitary matrix!
<2> WEE!
<0> Manyfold: what's unitary? :)
<2> well off the top of my head its like......... UAU^T=A.....or mabey thats somthing else.......
<0> ah yeah
<0> Manyfold: the video quality of these lectures is awful
<3> helloo... anybody here?
<1> no
<3> heheh...
<1> we don't answer questions
<2> Fused: go away....we shun people here
<3> ive got myself in a bit of a pickle...
<2> Fused: well.....i normaly run aroud 40$/hr
<3> i need some sample data for an experiment i cant replicate.. and yes, i have read the topic
<3> this is getting a bit urgent
<2> Fused: do like any good physicyst and fabricate it
<3> lol
<3> i guess i could...
<2> Fused: look....you know what the data should look like.....so just run some numbers through your theory....then add some noise
<2> and presto!
<4> psht, where's your ethics! you can't just fabricate data! you have to bribe your superiors first
<3> yeh... thats true...
<3> wellwellwell its arbscht
<1> experiments that can't be replicated are worthless
<3> Manyfold, well... i can replicate it, if i go out and buy $200 worth of lab equipment *rolleyes*
<2> Manyfold: no he said HE cant replicate it....on account of imcompetance no doubt.....
<2> :D
<3> JabberWalkie, more like lack of gear... ive done it before, but cant do it here
<2> Fused: just borrow some from the local university
<4> Fused: what experiment is it?
<4> JabberWalkie: hahaha yeah right
<3> archimedes principle, lol
<4> the local university is ****e
<1> Fused: http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/15/11/2
<3> lol
<1> Fused: this is were you will end undoubtly
<3> its overdue schoolwork man... not a commercial experiment
<4> what equipment do you need
<2> Fused: first is the school work....then your cheeting on your wife and killing goats in the name of Satan
<2> for shame....
<3> lol
<3> i must get back to work... everyone on irc is distracting 8-)
<2> Fused: if I were you i would take the 0 :)
<2> sweet sweet zeros....
<3> if i was allowed to i would take the 0
<3> but no... if i dont do the work theyre gonna throw me out
<2> Fused: its not like they have a gun to your head
<3> JabberWalkie, last school i can go to, so they practically do
<3> anyway... i must work



<4> last school you can go to? o.O
<4> how many you been kicked out of?
<3> none
<3> been to 6 total though
<4> :o
<3> **** i hate this sometimes
<5> Fused: what's the experiment?
<3> to determine that the up thrust experienced by an object partially or totally immersed in a fluid is equal to the weight of fluid displaced.
<5> yeah but how is the experiment conducted?
<3> its the fact that right at this point in time my brain doesnt want to perform the simple equations, DOH
<5> making it so difficult/expensive to do so
<3> need an 0.1g electronic balance, calibrated m***es, and a measuring cylinder
<3> none of which i have
<4> what do you have?
<3> nothing to weigh things with
<3> no m***es i know the value of
<3> and nothing to measure water with 8-)
<4> awesome
<4> so why don't you have them? can't the school supply you?
<3> 'too expensive equipment'
<3> anyways... gotta get on to forging tihs data then introducing a tiny amount of error
<5> should be easy enough
<4> Fused: what's your deadline?
<4> forging data isn't a good idea really
<5> tomorrow morning i bet
<4> then he has all night :p
<3> deadline is friday
<2> psh
<3> and theres 5 of them
<4> surely that's enough time to get equipment
<4> 5 different ones?
<3> yes
<3> only 2 i dont have data for
<3> anyway, must work
<4> what else you got?
<3> im going to PDF this experiment and put it online... stop the school torturing anyone with it next year
<4> how do they expect you to do it without gear?
<0> hmm
<3> i bungled it... but my mistake helped me
<4> hm?
<4> evening, hondje
<6> http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=EWX&lat=29.53526115&lon=-98.49099731&label=San+Antonio%2C+TX&type=N0R&zoommode=pan&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&delay=100&scale=1&noclutter=0&showstorms=31&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0-
<6> strange anomolies I have found
<6> strang sphere impulses
<7> yo
<8> dn4, does look interesting. did you check the satellite photos?
<6> nothing on sat.
<8> what's at the epicenter?
<0> bah
<0> someone please... wtf is hilbert space :)
<0> I'm reading it over and over..
<0> "The quantum Hamiltonian is the physical state of a system"
<0> that's without measurements right?
<8> I think wikipedia had a moderately decent explanation. I don't recall the concept no doubt because I deemed it irrelevant
<0> I then make an observation on the hilbert space, and get my expected value
<0> is that close?
<2> johnflux: i think its just a generalization of ecludian space
<2> instaid of 3 dimentions we can n dimentions....and similar rules of geometry..
<7> johnflux: yeah, pretty much...that way you can find the state at t, for example
<0> hondje: I can never find out what the values of hamiltonian state are right
<0> hondje: I only know what i'll get some outcomes with some probability if I make an experiment
<0> When I do an experiment, I'm observing an 'observable in the hilbert space'
<0> that observing is some operator
<0> that gives me the probability of some outcome
<0> then i'll get the result of one of the outcomes
<2> ugh.....so hot.....
<2> how can one do homework under these conditions....
<6> JabberWalkie, by altering the temp. of the room you are working in through some means of physically altering reality through manifestation of cooling
<8> I took off my clothes to cool down. worked ok :)
<2> well.....i dont really have a fan...
<2> and im already half dressed...
<2> suppose i can drench myself in cold water....but thats messy
<8> or drinnk some ice water
<9> JabberWalkie: Are you on the east coast?


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