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<0> chovy: I'm not stuck with anything - if only I were.. The problem is that people using my systems could use ISO-XYZ-Something, EUC-JP og what ever - and PHP dosn't really support anything besides ISO-8859-1 or UTF-8 properly
<1> Jemt: your app, db, and server all need to support the same encoding.
<2> yep
<1> if the common denominator is iso-8859-1, then that's all you can use.
<2> otiuk, give it write permissions for "others"
<2> to the file
<0> chovy: Oh, so it dosn't make sense to ie. use UTF-8 on the server and ISO-8859-1 on the DB?
<3> i get "You are not authorized to view this page" on IIS when installing PHP
<2> Jemt, You'll get strange chars...
<2> I vote for utf-8, unless your server do not allow it
<2> like mysql 4.0
<1> Jemt: utf-8 is a broader encoding, so it might work db(8859)->apache(utf-8)... but you can't store other encodings in your db.
<4> ?
<2> chovy, yes it does work that way
<4> set names 'utf8' in db
<2> I have a latin1 db and utf-8 in apache. All other db's are utf-8
<0> Oh, great. That makes sense. But the encoding on my files matters too, right? (my stuff.php files)
<4> danf_1979: do the query: mysql_query('SET NAMES \'utf8\'');
<3> any idea?
<2> did you enable php in apache config file?
<3> im on iis
<1> Jemt: i think so...not sure about the actual application logic code. If it's content (like xml) then yes, definitely.
<2> oh, right
<2> :)
<2> well, on iis config file?
<2> lol
<3> dunno how / where
<3> ?
<2> then it's a great time to go for apache... you'll have a great community support :D
<0> chovy: Well, I was refering to my *.php files (my logic)
<1> Jemt: i'm not sure... on that one...since your php is not being displayed to the browser.
<3> danf_1979: i can't its a dev system to mirror the production which has to be IIS!
<1> unless you're writing comments in japanese or something
<1> Jemt: there is a command line tool to convert files
<1> fileenc or something
<5> danf, if i put the file empty in the directory of the script... and run it.. it will write... but if i set fopen to x+ then it says it can't create it :/ .. and the directory is writeable to ALL (777)
<0> chovy: Well, it matters if you use special characters in your code - ie: echo " 100.39";
<2> that little billy making ppl use his server, well ok... maybe there is a iis channel here
<6> Andy298, read the INSTALL file in the php distro for how to install on IIS
<1> Jemt: yes...but what about "echo $foo" and $foo contains special characters.
<2> special chars like...?
<1> arabic
<0> chovy: Depends - does $foo come from a database or is it something like: $foo = " 100"; ?
<7> ASCII RULES!
<0> chovy: It's probably the database's encoding that matters if so
<1> Jemt: no...from the db/user input. If you want to have UTF-8 in your code, then you have to make the files UTF-8.
<1> Jymmm: we lucked out on that one.
<8> hello
<5> hi
<2> Jemt, if you decide to use ISO-8859-1 you'll be seeing a lot of strange chars on output
<0> chovy: Yes, makes sense. But if $foo is something like : $foo = $query["data"]; then $foo will contain data encoded in what ever the database is using, right?
<2> even if your db and apache are on iso
<9> in a static cl***, with all static methods, it makes sense to make a db connection in EACH method,.. since the object is called and destroyed after method termination anyway, correct? (if the methods all need a db connection)
<2> yes, but you could use something like this
<0> What will $foo contain in my example? Data encoded in what ever the php.ini says or what the database settings says?
<2> htmlentities($clean['user']), ENT-QUOTES, 'UTF-8');
<10> is "while(list($key, $val) = each($array))" faster than "foreach($array as $key => $val)" ??
<9> wrs use the foreach construct
<9> readability is usually preferred. and if php is intelligent enough, it will optimize to quickest access method anyway.
<9> the Zend optimizer i mean.
<10> i do, i just noticed in the phpBB source they seem to go out of their way to use while()
<2> I like foreach
<11> wrs: phpBB should NOT be where you take your coding standards
<9> lets not bash ;)
<6> phpBB is horrible!
<0> Hmmm ..
<12> HARRIBLE!
<10> hehe
<9> why don't you make a product that's that successful, then speak again...
<6> ahh Jax are you a phpbb developer?
<12> OMGZOMG DIS PHPBB! BAD BAD BAD BAD I HATE YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE
<9> it's like the most popular forum on earth.
<13> Personally I prefer SMF.
<9> no, i have nothing to do with it, nor have i ever used it.
<11> Jax: i've seen PLENTY of apps that successfull, which have wonderfully secure and proper code
<0> danf_1979: So the htmlentities will return my data in what ever encoding I specify? Are you sure it takes other encodings then UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1?
<6> well then Jax, when you use phpbb make that comment again
<9> yeah but have you made any of them?
<12> I like vbulletin
<12> it's neatly organized
<6> I use vbulletin
<9> it's just not worth bashing - enough said.
<9> get back to work.
<12> yet not too hard to make hacks for
<12> OMG! YOU USE VBULLETIN!?? BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD DIE DIE DIE
<11> i have nothing to get to work on
<9> maybe the code isn't great.. but maybe the person who started phpBB wasn't thinking it would become so popular..
<14> migs: *blink*
<6> uhh Jax
<9> so maybe not everything is perfect
<9> who cares
<2> take a look at the charsets:
<2> http://cl2.php.net/htmlentities
<6> they did a complete code rewrite for phpbb2
<13> I dont understand how vbulletin is fast. It uses literals for array keys. $array[key] instead of $array['key']. Or at least the last version I looked at
<11> Jax: regardless, he should have written it properly... not like crap
<9> maybe at the time, foreach didn't exist, or he didn't know of it.. who knows
<9> phpBB is like SO old
<14> Wilik: You mean phpbb3
<9> is that while(list() thing still in phpBB2 ?
<6> phpbb 2 came out like 2 years ago
<11> foreach i think has been arround since..... php3
<9> or 3 or whatever
<9> well so has phpBB
<6> foreach has been part of php since like php3
<15> No, foreach was new in 4.
<2> phpbb is bot's favorite forum
<2> they even post a lot!
<9> anyway, what are we arguying about ?
<6> !+phpbb
<2> and is no joke
<11> and php3 came about 20th of october
<6> lol
<9> back to work with y'all
<6> anyways
<6> phpbb isnt the most popular forum software, vbulletin is
<11> heh
<11> i dont see as many vb's as phpbb's
<6> thats becuase vb costs money
<6> but as they say, you get what you pay for, right?
<2> vb's is used on medium/big projects
<2> Yes, that's why I don't like 0.0002 dolar per year webhosting
<6> http://www.big-boards.com/
<11> Wilik: i disagree in certain places....
<6> phpbb is number 1
<6> but most of the other 'large' sites use something else
<7> phpbb is number 1 in security exploits
<16> $dji
<16> sry, wrong window
<6> Jymmm, thats true
<15> Heh. phpBB gets exploited so often I ran into a random guy at the bar last week who runs a phpBB that got hacked.
<6> Jymmm, again that falls under poor coding standards
<17> Hello!
<2> yup, but *very* often are the plugins who are insecure... Kiddy designed plugins = danger
<18> fudforum was created by ilia, a lead phpdev developer... it'ts fast and efficient
<17> i'm having some throuble with LDAP (ldap_add, specifically), it doesn't add the new uid. buf if i create the ldif by hand with the same content, it works...
<2> "SELECT * FROM table WHERE id='".$_POST["user_input"]."' ";
<2> great way to get problems
<19> danf_1979, these days, also mysql_real_escape_string is must
<2> yes it is, ofcourse
<6> Ashura, what exactly are you feeding to ldap_add?
<2> htmlentities too
<18> (int) as well :)
<6> Ashura, it should be $ldapconn_object, "dn", $info_array
<6> i.e.
<2> is_numeric, ctype_alnum, etc... the are many nice gifts from php.net
<2> :)
<17> Wilik, i copy'd the example from the doc page, using the type conversion with the numbers
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