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<0> ./modules/libphp5.la
<0> your configuration may(will) differ
<0> you also need to load the module in the apache configuration, of course
<1> i've apache in /var/www/
<2> Is there a way besides SSL to make transactions secure?
<3> Nope.
<0> other forms of public-key cryptography
<2> Thanks. I thought so. ( Bet with boss ; )
<3> You could require people to log onto a VPN before viewing your site.. :)
<4> haha :)
<0> ssh works good for that
<2> That's nutty
<3> True, but it's an option.
<4> ssh tunnel is also an option :)
<3> Depending on what sort of technicality it takes to win the bet.. :)
<2> Sort of self defeating for an open site, isn't it?



<3> Oh, an open site. Well, that's different.
<2> A simple ( and cheap way ) to make sales transactions secure.
<0> ssl is free
<5> Is to use HTTPS. SSL certificates aren't very expensive
<2> But the certs aren't
<4> Well... OpenSSL is free
<3> SSL implementations may be free, but certificates generally aren't.
<2> I know.
<5> An SSL certificate, is way cheaper than a typical payment provider charges
<4> walterwo1: Yes they are. self-signed are free.
<5> and moreover, they usually insist that you use HTTPS
<3> Stormchaser: And untrustworthy.
<5> Self-signed certificates are not useful for production sites
<4> mattmcc: noone asked that :)
<6> how do you print out an array vertically and not just horizontally cause when I do var_dump($myArray) it does it across
<0> trust is part of the security
<7> using ereg_replace how to I replace all cpitals with a capital followed by a space
<7> ?
<8> is it stupid to put a query inside a loop?
<2> I am just trying to convince the cheapskate to put money for a cert in my budget.
<9> vhuren: <pre>
<2> HS^: No
<3> walterwo1: If he wants SSL, he has to pay for a cert.
<6> philip: i'd do <pre> var_dump($myArray) </pre> ?
<2> I know that but he said he read something....
<8> walterwo1.. i think if there are to many loops the php server, or sql will become very slow??
<9> vhuren: something like that
<5> walterwo1: Surely the cost of an online payment system dwarfs that of a SSL cert? Not to mention your fee.
<3> walterwo1: Heh. Beware when bosses read.
<7> any thoughts?
<2> HS^ Meybe, judgement call.
<8> what matters , the fact that it calls the server
<8> or the amount of results
<2> mattmcc: Moron Managers Monthly.
<3> HS^: Once a connection is open, the price of running a query is fairly negligible.
<0> HS^ one nicely formatted sql query is better then a lot of somple ones
<5> HS^: That depends entirely on how much work you're doing, and how many times the loop goes around
<3> The query itself, however, may be costly.
<7> any know ?
<8> maybe the loop gos around a 1000 times
<3> What kind of query is it?
<8> very simple, with a one row result
<7> ah ha
<7> I got it
<5> krisp: You may want to use preg rather than ereg. ereg is deprecated
<2> HS^ Simple SELECTs are pretty quick but joins and sub-queries can get slow.
<10> krisp- preg_replace('/([A-Z])/', '\\1 ', $string);
<8> no its a SELECT.. i know enough.
<7> why is preg better?
<2> HS^ don't wory then
<9> ereg is deprecated?!?!
<11> hah
<10> preg is faster and more powerful
<5> HS^ - If what you're doing in the loop could be done easily not in a loop, then don't. But it's often easier (for code reuse especially). Benchmark it and make a judgement call.
<10> There's no reason to use ereg
<5> philip: The PHP developers meeting agreed that it was to be removed, eventually.
<12> I have a <form> with inputs, and then want to process that to a php file which then forwards the contents to an external url which is a <form> instead of masking with <form action="http://externalurl">; is this possible? If so how do I submit to the external form with the phpscript?
<5> I don't think they've decided whether they were going to include it in PHP6
<2> Vooloo: you need some javascript
<9> crazy
<12> walterwo1: Do I?



<5> Vooloo: Just use a HTTP redirect, which you can achieve in PHP using header()
<2> use: <body onload="document.location = 'otherurl' >
<12> MarkR: but how do I p*** the <input> ?
<2> You will have to write the data to a form and then submit the form to the next form.
<2> What Kevin?
<12> walterwo1: I already do that
<12> But I want my own phpscript inbetween
<12> So I see what p***ed and not
<5> Vooloo, so you want to achieve the same effect as submitting it to an external place, but collect the data yourself too?
<12> Yes
<5> IN which case, produce a form with hidden fields, and have it auto-submit with Javascript. If the user has js disabled, provide a button so they can manually submit it
<2> Like i said.
<12> why hidden fields?
<2> The key is the auto-submit part.
<2> So they cant edit them
<5> Vooloo: Because with hidden fields, it is harder for them to change the data
<4> Well... you could do that with XMLHttpRequest, but this isn't the channel for it.
<5> Notice that I said "harder", not "impossible" :)
<12> But they are supposed to edit the data?
<12> :S
<2> No, Vooloo
<5> Vooloo: They edit the data in the original form, then when it's completed you make this interstitial form which auto-submits
<12> Will this forward the user to the next stage landing page on the next site too?
<12> my site -> save data/p*** on form -> ext site continue the process
<2> Vooloo, Yes
<12> I'm still confused technically on how to do it :E
<13> philip, it worked now, thx!
<2> Just output the data to be p***ed onto the page, thn use the javascript to uto submit.
<12> walterwo1: yeah but _how_ heh
<2> me tries out the me funtion.
<2> You know how to parse write a from in php right?
<13> folks... I need a set of strings that p*** "through" (correct?) pg_scape_string. Do you think it's a good idea to make a new type?
<12> walterwo1: I guess I forgot, got an example ? :P
<12> form handling?
<2> you just use echo or print to write the form fields. ie, echo "<input name=\"field1\" value=\"myvalue\" type=\"hidden\" />\n";
<12> Ah, so having a middle page with only hiddenfields right that is filled by the phpscript when user submits, then redirect on that middlepage on a body onload?
<2> Vooloo: Yes
<12> And if no javascript enabled a continue button only
<12> Now I got it :>
<2> ye
<12> Thanks
<2> yes
<2> YW
<0> javascript should not be needed =p
<12> No?
<12> I was hoping that at first
<2> Kevin`: ? Fill me in
<0> well, why not instead of hidden fields use sessions
<12> Kevin`: how will that fill the external forms?
<2> Because he is changing sites
<2> and the externall form does not know that the values are there.
<12> there is no way to p*** form fieldvalues serverside right?
<0> gah this is slow
<12> With 2 sites I mean
<0> guess I didn't see that.. why are you using a form post to an extermal site
<12> Kevin`: to mask the identity of the real site
<12> :P
<12> With mine
<12> Like a custom webmail login interface
<4> !+enter
<14> Don't use the enter key as puncuation. Think in complete thoughts, then type.
<2> Vooloo: They will know that it is your site when they are redirected.
<2> And if you are p***ing login info it is very insecure.
<12> walterwo1: well yes AFTER
<2> Unless you use SSL
<12> Its nog a webmail login, but same principle
<0> sounds dishonest ;)
<2> This is not some sort of Phishing site is it?
<12> No :)
<2> Kevin`: I agree.
<12> It's all legal


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