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<0> lol
<1> nobody should have to suffer like that.
<2> heheh
<3> lig: i agree, nobody should suffer with vim - use Emacs
<0> itrebal: o.O
<1> that's no longer suffering. it's an epic journey through configuration files.
<0> Why the HECK do you need to learn another OS?!?
<4> itrebal: to many escape sequences to learn it
<5> vim is nice, but I like the Zend IDE, or textmate
<4> with vim you just need to know one
<6> .... Emacs? ....
<3> with Emacs you only need to know the ones you use :)
<7> emacs rock
<6> pooky: 'ey 'ey 'ow yah doin? ;)
<8> zircu: Come on... what's wrong with ESC:wq instead of CTRL+S
<5> with vim I just end up doing basic editing, cause vim has so many little nuances I don't quite know how to control, like, auto tabbing, works great until I paste something in, and suddenly code is spewed everywhere
<6> Jymm ESC:x ESC:x !
<3> whats wrong with Ctrl+x Ctrl+s to safve?
<5> nathe: lol, are you implying I'm canadian?!
<9> What's wrong with pico? :(
<8> ALT+F4, ENTER
<1> after using textmate for a little while, i can't see anything special about it.
<5> Zule|BBL: or nano?
<9> Same thing? :D
<8> mcedit baby!
<6> Pooky: nope
<5> caffinated: It does a lot of things that I haven't found in other "text editors", such as varaible and funciton completion, snippets, etc
<7> I used mcedit for ages
<8> it taste just like chicken!
<6> oh sorry I was confusing you with pookey,
<6> sorry
<6> wrong person ;)
<5> nathe: np! :D
<7> I'm using jedit now... sweet one ;)
<5> xshad: jedit is cool
<0> jedit scares me
<7> Stormchaser O.o
<0> It's... weird...
<5> jedit starts off as this tiny little thing, and then, you attach several components and turn it into a world crushing mechwarrior
<4> heh.. it seems this always starts :)
<0> oh, I don't need that... I just need something to write in...
<7> nah... I don't use any plugin...
<5> Stormchaser: textpad/mate/etc
<5> SubEthaEdit, lol.
<10> SciTE.
<0> Pooky: Gimme tm for linux, and I'll use it... If no, I'll stick with kwrite...
<7> Stormchaser $ echo "cl*** Foo ....... (LOT of code)" > Foo.php :)
<5> oh, Ihaven't heard of that one before :D
<11> hello
<5> Stormchaser: kwrite is nice, not super robusts, but does the basics well
<0> Pooky: That's more than I need...
<12> Anyone here messed with memcache?
<11> Is this line correct: <?php include("Chat.php"); ?>
<7> ahhh.... go RTFM
<7> go read*
<4> scite is very handy to have on a usb stick
<0> IT'd be cool, if KATE would support templating mechanism of cheetah or Django.
<5> Version 1.68 can draw the caret line translucently...
<12> I am interested in seeing what you cache, if you do. I just made an entire page that has user level based authentication and 0 queries...
<5> haha, that's one hell of a feature!
<5> Stormchaser: KATE is fun, I use(d) that when I ran around in X all the time
<2> later
<5> anyways, for php editing, the Zend IDE is seriously good :)
<0> Pooky: KATE is okay, but I don't need an MDI editor... Much more comfortable with SDI interface.
<5> Stormchaser: fair enough.
<5> Stormchaser: personally I prefer MDI's that just fill the window with each document, so it's kind of like a browser with tabs
<0> Pooky: I use UE at work... And if it had SDI interface, I'd be ultra-happy
<5> what's UE?
<13> if i setcookie('user_name',$user_name,(time()+2592000),'/','',0);... so from every page... do i just access $user_name?
<5> UltraEdit?
<0> Ultra Edit.
<14> newpers: http://www.php.net/session
<13> Rewt`: thanks
<9> That's a windows thing!
<13> yes or no wouldn't have been bad either
<0> Zule: Yes, and...?
<9> UltraEdit is pretty sweet.
<0> MDIU scares me.
<0> *MDI
<5> Stormchaser: I used that a long time ago, but I ended up using some other simialar tool, basic editor, with a nice tree menu on the left, syntax highlighting...
<9> Sounds like me and OOP
<5> textpro or something
<5> I haven't used windows in years :/
<5> oh, textpad
<5> heh
<15> on a windows box notepad++ works fine for me, prefer zend studio on linux.
<16> syn fer windaz
<12> psh I just use gedit :/
<12> I wish there was a unix dreamweaver port
<9> Become an artist! :)
<14> there is... called Wine
<4> i would prefer ed over any sort of *di solution.ZZ
<0> Zule: And do what? Make voodoo dolls?
<5> Stormchaser: once you go in, you can't get out. It all turns into API's and IDE's for said API's, syntax is a religion...
<9> :D
<16> get yourself weaned off dreamwaever
<5> dreamweaver is ok
<0> "weaned off"?
<5> if you don't want to know what you're doing
<4> dreamweaver is the worst.. both for php and html
<12> archivist: lol
<12> zircu: I like the IDe
<12> I could careless about the rest
<0> zircu: *nod*
<16> its the pits
<5> like, I magically made a form, and it magically dumps to my database, HOORAY
<13> also, i'm looking at this code. what's the point of doing this: $var1 = false; unset($var1);
<13> why not just unset($var1)
<9> I hate to admit it, I kinda like Dreamweaver for HTML stuff. I generally code all the HTML myself, and CSS, then just use it to do some evil tempating stuff, or quicker editing in a pretty interface.
<5> Zule|BBL: but lots of editors do templating :)
<10> newpers: Manually forcing garbage collection, perhaps?
<4> Cody`: it produces nasty code, and doesn't have a good editor.. the mysql<tab> stuff would be better with a real ide
<15> use what fits you best, aslong as the job gets done is what i think
<9> Pooky: I don't know any on Windows asides it, least none that fit what I need
<13> ok
<9> And Dreamweaver isn't _that_ bad at html coding.
<0> Zule: DW basterdize the code and optimize it for IE... You have to do the tweaking at the end yourself...
<9> It's the best WYSIWYG editor by far
<5> Zule|BBL: neither is word.
<4> Zule|BBL: yes it is very bad
<5> Zule|BBL: it is the best wysiwyg, I can agree with that.
<9> Word is very bad, or was.
<5> I always forget sarcasm has no home on IRC
<9> As for the code produced by DW version 8, I think it could be a hell of a lot worse.
<5> unless you use tags
<4> it is more like wysiwygbfu
<0> lol
<5> zircu: haha, wtf? gbfu?
<12> zircu: You're stupid if you use it for generating code....I use it for the IDE
<0> "but ****ed up"
<5> ah
<4> Cody`: it's editor ****s as well
<5> I've just seen so many simpler, cheaper alternatives to dreamweaver
<5> especially when you say things like
<5> I just use it for templating
<4> Cody`: it doesn't know how to handle unix files vs dos files (line endings) its tab formatting ****s
<5> or I just use it to quickly create a layout, etc
<17> any pointers on generating xml from a database? cl***es, function etc/
<9> I still don't know any better alternative for a complex tempating system on Windows with builtin preview pane :D
<4> Cody`: if you only use it for the ide, i would look for better solutions than dw
<5> zircu: heh, as weak as it is a point, that's why I quit using dw, I hated deploying stuff from dw, then when there was a bug, sshing to the server, and trying to vi a document rittled with ^M's
<4> eclipse is much better
<5> not that fixing that is hard, it's just annoying
<4> Pooky: yeah, it makes more work on my part :)
<5> when you've learned enough to fix the stuff it generates, imho, you've outgrown it
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