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<0> And strings in Klingon (wait, that's not fully Unicode yet...?)
<1> Haha
<2> ka'plah { public function toooooo'gah!(...) { .. } }
<0> Check Andrei Zmievsky's talks page: http://www.gravitonic.com/talks/
<2> cl****
<0> *andrei zmievski
<2> php6 annoys me. Derick: namespaces? useless. GOTO? now THERE'S a usefull feature.
<2> *kill*
<0> Does anyone here use the DOM functions in PHP5? I'm building a CMS based on generating the content using the DOM functions...
<3> Shadda: lol
<2> AbuHurayrah, I do.
<2> my site's entirely XML/XSLT driven
<0> I don't mean DOM-XML...I mean the DOM...oh really?
<0> WHow do you use it?
<3> AbuHurayrah: check out the W3C DOM Documentation if you have questions :)
<0> The XSLT parts...



<2> output the dynamic content to XML with php5's DOM model
<0> No, that's not what I meant. I understand how to use it, but I wanted to know in what capacity.
<2> transform it with libxslt (www.php.net/xsl)
<0> For the entire site...do you just generate XML, or what...
<2> AbuHurayrah, here
<2> http://fontiac.carbonix.us/xml
<2> not exactly the most properly formed xml doc
<2> but hey
<0> *checking*
<2> that gets transformed (via xslt) to http://fontiac.carbonix.us/
<0> Shadda: Nifty!
<0> I haven't done much with transforms myself...I basically just use the DOM objects for my X/HTML output...
<1> Is Drupal OO yet?
<2> I'm in love with xsl :) it has some caveats but makes templating a breeze...n' I don't even really like the idea of controlling any kind of logic in the template, normally...
<4> Hello, how do I create a method that can be access like $object->method1() and $cl***::method1()?
<1> Or do they still use the system with functions?
<2> fromvega, er, read up on OOP ?
<4> s/access/accessed
<0> fromvega
<5> anyone around that is willing to help a newbie with some table problems?
<0> $object1->method1() is defined normally within a cl***
<0> $cl***::method1() would be a static method (usually)...
<0> so you would define it as public static function method1()
<2> cl*** foo { public function bar($name) { echo 'Hi, my name is', $name; } } $foo = new foo; $foo->bar();
<2> er
<6> mail("myemail@myemail.com", $subject, $message); <-- I have a question... what could possibly be wrong with this? I'm trying to send an email to myself from a form that a user submits and everythign seems correct, I just don't get the email though. Any ideas? Thanks ^_^
<2> cl*** foo { public function bar($name) { echo 'Hi, my name is', $name; } } $foo = new foo; $foo->bar('matt');
<4> AbuHurayrah: but if I define as static, can I still call like $object->method() ?
<0> Lots of errors...
<2> fromvega, no.
<0> Isha_Mike: What's the error you're getting?
<6> I'm not
<0> I concur with Shadda
<6> It just doesn't send me email... and obviously I double-checked the email address
<2> fromvega, $object represents an instance of the cl***
<0> Then check your e-mail setup in php.ini, and check that you can e-mail normally...
<2> static methods and properties represent values and methods used outside of instances
<6> there any error-checking method? I'm using an online host...
<4> Shadda: so, how can I do that? or I can't?
<2> fromvega, eh? do what
<2> oh lovely...I nuked my OO tutorial, too
<2> yay for being an idiot!
<4> Shadda: be able to access a method both ways $object->method() and $cl***::method
<0> This is my first time on #php...what do all these other people do? Just listen?
<1> I listen
<0> fromvega: Write the method outside the cl***..;)
<1> and havemy question ignore
<2> fromvega, you can't. er, well, in php4 you can. But we don't discuss php4 OO without weeping.
<1> ignored
<0> DROPTOTHETOP: I didn't know, so I didn't answer.
<2> I didn't see, so I didn't answer.
<1> Which one?
<2> oh, and I hate you. that's why.
<1> the htp***wd one or the Drupal one?
<4> Can I use .(dot) in PHP5 instead of -> ?
<0> I got on after your asked htp***wd, I think...
<2> fromvega, no.
<0> fromvega: no
<0> lol
<2> . is an append operator in php heh
<0> Shadda types too fast!



<0> Andrei had a patch to make it do that...
<6> AbuHurayrah, is there any way to check it via a global variable or something? I'm using an online host and therefore cannot connect to an ini file...
<0> Resembling the behavior of Perl 6...
<0> Ishs_Mike: You can always ask your host...
<2> AbuHurayrah, would be better than what they're considering for php6
<2> ::: or \
<7> It's not that people ignore you, DROPTOTHETOP. Sometimes people just don't know the answer, so they cannot help you. Please remember that this is all *voluntary*. We're (mostly) helping each other because we simply like doing it. :)
<8> \? that's awkward.
<0> Ishs_Mike: You can write a simple script with only this function call: phpinfo
<0> Isorry, phpinfo()
<0> It will give you all the information on the PHP environment
<6> yea I remembered that function..w as just trying it now
<6> thanks
<2> FlannelKing, to be fair, there's not really anything else they could use, not without an overhaul of php's tokenizer/parser
<0> This is also my first time...
<2> every other operator is in use
<0> Shadda: Are they changing the member-access character?
<0> characters*
<8> Shadda: I suppose, but it'll still feel like I'm escaping everything.
<7> Could the + operator not be overloaded for string concatenation? :O
<2> AbuHurayrah, -> you mean?
<0> Yeah...what were you referring to about PHP6?
<2> codergeek42, sure, if php supported overloading
<2> heh
<0> With ::: & /
<2> AbuHurayrah, namespaces
<0> Oh.
<2> namespace1\cl***->bar()
<0> WHAT?!
<0> Oh man...
<9> codergeek42: It actually used to be +, they changed it in PHP3.
<7> Shadda: Oh.
<2> \ vs ::: though...\ wins
<7> TML: really? Gaaah silly Rasmus!! :P
<2> ::: would be a bitch to type, and even harder to read
<0> What would be the problem with supporting "." in different contexts...
<7> or the & operator (VB-style) o_O
<2> AbuHurayrah, concatenation
<7> (sorry about my swearing there :P)
<0> For example, a "." used on an object would mean "access", while . between two strings would be concatenation...
<10> quick question, i just want to reverse an array. i dont want to sort it or anything, i just want it reversed. what function should i look at?
<2> foo.bar how do you know that's not a constant being concatenated?
<0> Can someone kick codergeek42, please? :-p
<7> imagine trying to concatenate two string members of objects...could get confusing if you're not careful :O
<6> So what exactly am I looking for?
<7> AbuHurayrah: lol
<2> mmm vb6, codergeek42 likes it kinky
<0> $object2.string1.$object2. OH
<7> Shadda: NO! No No No ....
<7> haha
<0> devians: Can you give us an example?
<1> ...
<11> Shadda: BLARG
<7> oh wait; object members are '->' in PHP
<0> *awkward silence*
<7> nevermind what I said earlier! *sigh*
<6> AbuHurayrah, what exactly shoudl I be looking for here? Apparentally everythign seems to be going okay... it's got a 'sendmail_from' and all that good stuff
<0> codergeek42: Also, you can parentheses....to clear the context? I don't know.
<10> ummm... array('nav1' => 'extravars', 'nav3' => 'extravars3', 'nav2' => 'extravars2');
<2> freakin cat disconnected me
<2> devians, dunno if some one said it, but, array_reverse()
<2> ta da
<0> Isha_Mike: Well...what do you see for mail?
<7> AbuHurayrah: true :)
<0> Shadda: No one else did...
<10> ty Shadda i was looking for something like that
<6> well... there's nothing for just "mail"... no variable or anything like that at all
<0> codergeek42: But that would defeat the purpose, I guess, of saving time with dots...:-p
<10> i was looking at krsort and such :|
<0> PHP documentation is outstanding...I can usually find a function in short order.
<7> bleh....I don't get why people want to use '.' instead of '->' when it's only one character less :|
<0> Who here is NOT using Firefox?


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