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<0> Meltir: It tied in too much PHP, apparently.
<0> s/It/You/
<1> kuja: simple - not enough man power to do it.
<0> Meltir: Lack of people who know anything outside of PHP?
<2> Meltir: looks like what I need... so $a=eval(var_export($b)); is correct?
<1> kuja: we are a busy little group. nothing big, but we have our hands full.
<0> |Lurch|: Try it.
<3> did people see the question I posted?
<0> Meltir: Don't ever hire Ruby or Python devs, cause you'll be the laughing stock :(
<1> |Lurch|: depends on what you want exactly. you might want var_export($foo,true).
<2> Meltir: you are right, my bad. thanks.
<1> kuja: no plans for it :) we are pretty much php-centric.
<0> Meltir: It's good up to web apps, it's bad when you're doing GUI programming with PHP :)
<4> i'm self-centric
<0> Meltir: Maybe in the near future you should reconsider the GUI part :)
<0> At least when you get the chance.
<1> besides - we would sooner go for java, c++, or some form of pascal before going ruby or python :P
<4> atta boy Meltir
<0> Meltir: Doesn't sound so bad.
<4> java is nice for GUI work, imo
<4> it tends to get a little slow though on larger apps
<0> jiggster: Mustang is heading in the right direction for cross toolkit compatibility, cause it's got GTK support now, but it still has a long ways to go.
<1> jiggster: i think so too. but we still are missing at least two people knowing java to do anything :P
<4> although i'd say the biggest issue is ram consumption
<4> kuja: oh really?
<4> Meltir: well :\
<0> jiggster: Yeah, the fact that there is GTK support is *nice*, but it ****s at the same time.
<4> mm yeah
<1> yeah, i know - time to fire up a cigg and get learning :)
<0> Still, Mustang is heading in the right direction :)
<4> i like the theme stuff in java come to think of it, pretty nifty compared to C imo
<4> c++*
<0> Meltir: Python is well-known in the industry, MANY, many companies use it. Take Google for example, which uses a mixture of languages, but more Python.
<4> Meltir: ewwwww dirty smoker
<4> i quite, you should too :P
<0> Meltir: Python is so common, that every Linux distro will install it by default cause my apps depend on it.
<0> s/my/many/
<5> I have set open_basedir = .:/opt/web/php/share/pear, but one user can open my /etc/p***word how is possible?
<5> any idea how to fix it?
<1> kuja: we are talking mortals. (l)users. paying ones. we cant require them to run linux and have python installed. from what i can see - phpgtk can be put into a nice package. and keep the codebase (like i said - its a priority atm).
<1> run both linux and m$. just work(tm). ;P
<1> ruben: php version ?
<0> Meltir: Python isn't any harder to setup, and I wouldn't use it for any web applications, just GUI or CLI programming, if you know what I mean. But I understand your situation :)
<6> omg this is so frustrating...
<7> hey, kuja were you helping me with my php / java script problem a few days ago?
<5> Meltir: the latest stable 5x
<0> I don't remember, but I have ****ty memory, so maybe. But if it has to do with JS, I'm a moron for JS, so maybe not.
<7> hmm
<5> Meltir: using only this can prevent that? .:/opt/web/php/share/pear ?
<7> This is why I should log my irc chats.
<1> ruben: it _sounds_ like a bug. one that i would expect to be fixed soon (next release) if you submit a bugrep.
<6> php docs state that mysql has been dropped from php5 and you need to point the --with-mysql=/usr option... "/usr" that cant be it??
<0> weasel00: Yes, it can be.
<6> *jaw drops*
<0> weasel00: PHP must be compiled with MySQL support.
<0> !+prefix
<8> You probably have wrong prefix directory for your application in the configure switch... Usually the applications, that contain the includes in /usr/include and libraries in /usr/lib are installed in /usr... Try --with-<yourswitch>-dir=/usr rather than --with-<yourswitch>-dir=/usr/lib
<6> kuja : thts what i have been trying to do for the last hour lol
<1> and as of php5 the 'support' must be provided from an externall mysql-lib/client
<0> weasel00: Maybe you're missing the MySQL client libraries.
<5> Meltir: can you use this? this shell it uses for lots of script kiddies, and with this, I see interesting security issues
<5> http://csteam.ru/antileech/11/7035e74de847782779145da839196ab2/c99shell.php%20v.1.0
<5> for example, it tells you if you have safe_mode on, etc
<5> and with this, it can read my /etc/p***word :(
<5> XD
<1> ruben: im not a php-dev (as in core php). also - my firefox is eating away at its 800'th megabyte of ram - so its not really usable atm :/
<5> Meltir: but in teory, my open_basedir it's correct then?
<0> Meltir: Bout time you stopped using Firefox? It *is* a known fact that FF eats lots of memory :)
<7> FF, runs slow on my mac for some reason. I never figured out why.
<1> kuja: it has nothing to do with that :) it has good reasons to hog today, and i wouldnt expect any other browser to do any better :)
<0> ironpig: Eh? **** that, use Safari if you're on a Mac :)
<9> kuja you forgot your "$sarcasm"
<7> I do
<10> M$ eats memory... not known for their reserved usage of resources.
<0> Lord_Loki: I'm not being sarcastic. FF is a resource hog by nature.
<0> So, I use Galeon or Opera, but mainly Opera now.
<11> kuja: i like my extensions though
<11> kuja: otherwise i'd dumb it
<11> dump*
<0> itrebal: **** your extensions! :)
<12> what port does apache work off of?
<0> Zregika: By default, it listens on 80.
<12> thanks
<0> Of course, this is common sense, because it *is* a webserver.
<12> no wait, that is what i am forwarding right now
<12> it isn't working...
<0> So ask in #apache?
<1> well - atm my script is digging through a 250meg db, and its giving out a progress meter to the browser on every query :) so i expect it to eat up anotheir gig or so before its done. :/
<0> We are ##php.
<0> :)
<1> itrebal: now thats an upgrade :)
<0> Gawwd...I love GTK2... but I *hate* PHP-GTK.
<11> Meltir: :) i'm also going from a P4 2.0 GHz to a Xeon 3.0GHz
<1> itrebal: thats not an upgrade then. thats a new server :P
<9> dual core > you
<9> lol
<9> xeon is nice, but with what dual cores are doing (and costing) your better off
<11> Meltir: hehe, close enough... my current server is my old work computer :P sorta a 'ooh i have a server...ish..'
<13> What would be the best way to see if someone posted a form? (post method) There must be something else than checking $_POST variables.. ?
<1> crap. the worst thing is - i dont know how much is already done :/ firefox froze about an hour (or 200megs) ago :/
<0> raar: There isn't.
<0> raar: Just check that $_POST is not empty.
<11> Lord_Loki: better off doing what?
<13> kuja: Ah alright, thanks
<10> raar: What do you want? A magical pixy fairy dusted piece of paper to appear floating just above your desk?!
<0> raar: Never check on the submit button. Browser aren't required to send it.
<11> Jymmm: i've got some magical pixy fairy dust on my desk, in a little baggy
<14> on a page where you can login, the login sets e.g. `members`.`loggedIn` to '1', and if you log out its set to 0, but what should i do about those users that just close the browser and the session dies?
<10> itrebal: I told you to stop snorting the lead paitn that's peeling off the walls!
<11> Jymmm: oh please!
<9> itrebal: then sprinkle some on my head so i can press my face to the screen and learn php by osmosis
<11> Lord_Loki: wrong kind of magical pixy fairy dust, my friend
<10> itrebal: Ok, then baush your head with tux
<13> jymmm, yep - that would be awesome :)
<10> bash
<1> why not zsh ?
<9> itrebal: umm.. well i will p*** then
<10> raar Well, wake up, you aint in Kansas anymore toto!
<11> Lord_Loki: lol
<13> heheh
<15> hot damn... i just spent about 4 hours working on a single regex and i finally got it
<10> !+mre
<8> [MRE] 'Meal, Ready to Eat' used by the military in the field and others during a disaster as they have a long shelf life. But you probably wanted 'MRE - Mastering Regular Expressions' the bible of regex http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ Use this utility for learning/understanding/troubleshooting your RegEx --> http://www.weitz.de/regex-coach/
<0> If a regex gets too complex in the first place, you probably don't want it :)
<9> itrebal: i'd rather avoid liking show-tunes and redeorating my house with the new spring fashions thanks
<1> oh crud. im only about 1/4 done with the process :(
<16> hey guys .. im trying to access /var/qmail/mailnames/domain.com/ with php however domain.com directory permissions is 700 owned by 'popuser' therefor php cannot access that directory.. what is the best way (besides changing all permissions on the file system) to make a php script execute with 'popuser' privelages so it can acess that directory.. thanks heaps in advance :)
<15> kuja: it's not that it was complex, it was a feature that was problematic to find a reference on
<15> kuja: nested tags :)
<0> Yuck
<0> HTML?
<15> not really
<11> Yay! I can use my ugly *** purple Apple keyboard AND my ergonomical keyboard... AT THE SAME TIME!
<11> ugg.. i hate ths POS
<15> i wrote my own little template engine that could handle simple loops (particuarly, database results)
<15> i stumbled into in a issue when i wanted a loop to have another loop inside of it (nested loop) so that i could, for example, list a results by category -- or by time
<0> Artnez: I would've just used XML/XSLT
<1> itrebal: congrats. please explain to me how exactly are you going to type on two keyboards at once. and why. :)
<15> kuja: yes, that would usually be the better method, however in this case i needed this to be embedded in HTML and have the flexibility of being anything .. not necessarily DB results
<0> Artnez: Then I would tidy the HTML and use an XML parser on it.
<0> :)
<0> Though in PHP I imagine that can be horribly slow :P
<15> kuja: stop, you're ruining my high :P
<0> =)
<11> Meltir: my left hand on the mac, and the right on my regular one
<11> it could work :P
<1> itrebal: and now tell me why :P
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