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<0> s/da/de/
<1> dad: In the real world, it depends on your situation. If you work for a company you'll probably have some internal codebase. If you freelance, it's entirely up to you.
<1> dad: A lot of PHP code is GPL, which gives you the flexibility to reuse it and still sell your code, open source or not.
<2> I have set open_basedir = .:/opt/web/php/share/pear, but one user can open my /etc/p***word how is possible?
<3> kuja: nice!
<2> any idea?
<3> kuja: i know i could find someone else's DB object, use it as i would, but again, it's also for learning...
<0> ruben: upgrade your php ? google says there were multiple fixes regarding issues with safe_mode and open_basedir in generall.
<4> is there an equivalent to substr which leaves control characters?
<4> when I use substr it remove any \t's that where in the line
<0> also - you shouldnt rely on those, and secure your system with proper privs for certain dir's/
<0> dad: imo there is no point in reinventing the wheel - even when learning. dba's are there for a reason. but thats just me.
<5> Nam: I don't know why this happens but you could make a function to simulate substr based on array indexes, $string[0]....$string[5]
<1> Meltir: Often reimplementing something with your own hands gives you an idea of how things work. Things stick better in memory.
<4> yea, i was just hoping someone knew of a function which was control char safe
<0> kuja: my opinion differs from that of most people, so im not going to argue. lets just say im _really_ lazy :)
<1> Meltir: Everyone in here has reinvented the wheel at one point just to learn something better. 100% EVERYONE.
<1> In one way or another, everyone *has* reinvented the wheel.
<5> Nam: mb_substr maybe?
<0> sure. but dba's are a large topic, and i dont like to meddle in those :P
<1> Meltir: DBA's are overrated.
<0> kuja: why ?
<1> Meltir: They're utterly useless for large projects. DB objects are rather useful though/.
<0> then i must be missing some idea about what a dba really is. i understand it as an object/cl*** that handles the database connection. time to google around and reeducate myself :/
<3> Meltir: i was just wondering if i should build a query function into my database object - p*** it a query string, and it'll return a result set...
<1> Meltir: People blindly use DBAs for large projects and result in never having to switch out databases, so most people don't know how useless they are.
<5> I have a cl*** used to abstract db access, and another cl*** to make common actions based on database data that will need to use the functions from the DB cl***. Should it, the common cl*** inherit the DB cl***?
<1> Meltir: Once you make the attempt to switch out a database, you may find yourself rewriting ***loads of SQL, as if it were no different from NOT using a DBA anyways.
<4> hmm... when i try mb_substr i get "Call to undefined function mb_substr() in"
<5> Nam: I'm sorry, I just gave a look at the manual, I've never used this function
<1> dad: A DB Object is more better understood as a table-object mapping of a table in your database.
<1> s/more //
<4> yea, same here
<4> ahh, i need to add --enable-mbstring to my php install
<6> ask v
<6> Jymmm
<6> all and powerfull Jymmm!
<5> I have a cl*** used to abstract db access, and another cl*** to make common actions based on database data that will need to use the functions from the DB cl*** everytime. Should it, the common cl***, inherit the DB cl***? What's the best aproach?
<1> fromvega: It should, yes.
<7> after i recompile php with mysqli do i need to restart anything besides apache to see the changes?
<1> No
<8> eh, so i'm setting up mysql with php.. in my php.ini i removed the ';' infront of the extention.. but i get "unable to load dynamic library ./php_msql.dll' , suggestiosn? (i do have mysql.dll in the php dir)
<7> gdi
<0> but remember to restart, and not just reload apache.
<7> Mel: difference?
<1> stedios: Set your extension_dir directive in php.ini to point to the absolute path of your extension directory.
<0> weasel00: huge. reload just rereads the configs, it doesnt reload the libs.
<0> more like frags :)
<7> thanks... as you noticed im losing itover this lol
<8> "extension_dir = "c:\php\" " same thing ;0
<1> stedios: Why are your extensions in C:\php?
<1> If PHP4, it should be C:\php\extensions, and in PHP5, C:\php\ext
<7> Mel: how do i reload it to get the libs then?
<8> i don't know honostly.. i've never used extentions before . and don't have an extention folder
<8> php5.x
<1> stedios: You don't have ext?
<8> er
<8> "ext"
<8> i see
<8> i was looking for "extensions" and ext was too short andi over looked. heh.
<5> how do I call a father constructor?
<0> parent::foo
<7> Mel : apachectl -k restart?
<8> ok, same thing. 'unable to load c:\php\ext\php_mysql.dll"
<0> weas: apachectl stop; apachectl start; <-- sure way.
<1> stedios: You also need to be sure that your libmysql.dll is in somewhere recognizable by %PATH%.
<7> Mel : TY
<9> i have a variable called $today definined in my script, later on i eval some php code, and $today is not accessable, the scope of the variable should p*** to the evaled script?
<10> yo_pops::blah
<8> kuja: mm
<11> i am having problems with mediawiki install
<11> i was told y'all could help me
<1> Zregika: Not with a mediawiki install. No, we cannot.
<9> Does global scope extend to evaled scripts?
<0> Zregika: wrong channel. you want #wiki or #mediawiki
<8> kuja: mind being more specific?
<8> even tho it sounds specific already.. heh
<1> stedios: Do you know anything about your own OS? Do you know how to set your %PATH%?
<8> kuja: you mean evir variable?
<1> Yes.
<8> oh
<10> how ya doin jiggster?
<1> stedios: ***uming libmysql.dll is in C:\php, you want to add C:\php to your PATH variable.
<0> ;)
<1> stedios: Or just move libmysql.dll to somewhere that is recognizable by your PATH.
<12> pretty good Jymmm, yourself?
<8> i remember reading about that earlier, will go do now . thank
<8> thanks*
<10> jiggster working on a design (as usualy)
<1> Jymmm: Shut up
<12> ah cool stuff
<1> :D
<12> if i ever write an irc client, i'ma put in a "Ban Kuja" button :p
<1> Screw you :P
<12> i used to like you!
<1> My IRC client is going to be out... someday...
<1> If the guy ever gets around to writing it lol
<12> then you went all weird with RoR
<1> Only Ruby
<12> oh
<1> And some Ruby-GTK2
<12> well then there's hope for you yet
<1> If PHP is hope, then God is Satan.
<12> i watched a RoR movie on their site... my god it's ... weird :\
<0> kuja: no, im satan.
<1> PHP will never be hope to GUI or command-line programming :)
<12> tbh, i dont know what i'd prefer, i only know Java and PHP, and i'm not proud to say that :P
<1> At least you know Java.
<12> i wish i knew more, but i question the worth of it all
<12> so i go MS like and go the .NET route, or stay into the less recognized non .NET route?
<1> Meltir: Uh, why not use a more suited language for GUI programming? Python is well-suited for the scripting language depo.
<12> do i go*
<1> jiggster: Go C, contribute to the OSS community, stick it on a resume :)
<12> perhaps
<13> does PHP have a serialize/unseralize format that is more convenient/human readable? something like print_r would be nice, but it doesn't look like there is a get_r equivalent..
<0> kuja: keeping one codebase. a www enabled controll panel, and a phpgtk client side panel :/
<1> |Lurch|: var_export()
<14> the PHP manual defines OpenSSL "Purpose checking flags" such as server and client. None of the function documentation says where they are valid, or what variables they need to be ***igned to to be effective. Where can I find information on that?
<12> i know C++ has pointers... but does C?
<0> |Lurch|: var_export ?
<1> Meltir: That's... kind of sad.
<0> kuja: not sad really. just painfull.
<15> jiggster, err yes
<12> thought so
<1> Meltir: I fear for your company, using PHP-GTK
<12> man, pointers do me in completely
<1> Meltir: Does your company realize that PHP-GTK is not meant for serious use?
<13> Meltir: lemme take a look...
<0> kuja: we... you could say that we dont care :P
<1> lol
<15> just dont inhale
<1> Meltir: The authors even state somewhere that it's a "proof-of-concept" and not really meant to be used :)
<0> kuja: keeping one codebase is a priority. the company isnt big enough to run two projects side by side :P
<12> i'm working on my AMD box... redid gentoo on it, my old compile was quite cluttered and well... x was very, very broken
<8> kuja: all good now. thanks ;0
<1> stedios: You're welcome
<12> i'm kind of excited, this setup looks hopeful
<1> Meltir: Depending on your setup, it should have been easier to use 2 languages.
<1> Meltir: It tied in too much PHP, apparently.
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