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<^Artnez> olger901: though i like to treat strings as strings and use double quotes when needed :D
<myc> marC: thats what i ment
<le_neko> is the only usefull fonctiuonnality of zend is the autocompletion ?
<Davey|Work> hell no
<Marc> myc: its cool, they also bought me a license for macromedia's studio :/
<^Artnez> le_neko: a little detail that i noticed many ide's dont have is understand what functions were included where
<myc> le_neko: that and the whole built in debugging/profiling engine
<^Artnez> le_neko: if you hover over a user defined function, you'll see the parameters, where it's from ,stuff like that
<Getty> le_neko: "go to declaration" is also very helpful
<myc> Marc: I downloaded the 'shareware' version :D
<Marc> lol
<^Artnez> le_neko: I also think Zend comes with a built in PHPDoc generator
<le_neko> could be nice
<Getty> Zend easily rocks for php development
<Marc> Yup
<Getty> but it ****s itself, sometimes hangs, shows mistakes what are not there (disappear regular after resave)
<myc> you cant tear off editor tabs :(
<^Artnez> le_neko: and the built in PHP manual is always a plus :D
<Getty> but that is less important against the advantages
<Marc> Getty: never had any of those problems myself personally, and i use it daily.
<^Artnez> Getty: Never had a hang/crash yet
<Getty> Marc: probably not so complex code? ;-)
<le_neko> yes for now i have the built in doc and autocompletion with gphpedit
<absentia> I wan to find info on stdin for php ... www.php.net/stdin doesn't give me anything useful... doe anyone know any links references for it ?
<Marc> Getty: heck its complicated, its code for the company i work for ofc it is:?
<le_neko> but i no doubt there is plenty of extended functionalities with this zend studio
<Marc> Getty: if the codes crap, i get the sack :p
<le_neko> ... i still waitin they send me the mail to download their demo ...
<Marc> lol
<Getty> Marc: my code is clean but very very complex big structures i get myself wet when i bugfix something from 3 month ago, but anyway zend sometimes hangs and even once a month it crashes
<minDscrm> can i create pdf's on-the-fly with php?
<Marc> Getty: clean code is good. I hate these "PHP Gods" and yet they cant even indent / layout their code correctly. And not to say the least, they dont use correct methods
<Getty> Marc: no duplicated code blocks, no workarounds, straight system
<le_neko> yes you could minDscrm, but i could not tell you it is simple task , neither try it
<Marc> Getty: damn right.
<minDscrm> le_neko, thank you
<Getty> Marc: i got around 50 cl***es, sharing is good
<Getty> Marc: we got 3 "elements" of the project (website/control-server/hardwarenodes) so they share the cl***es too
<Getty> lots of stress in organisation....
<Getty> i get more wet on actions on the database anything depends on
<Getty> if there is anyway with a cool SQL-DIFF API please help me
<Marc> Getty: heh, biggest php project i had to do for this company was something stupid like 203k lines of code, and their was 2 php developers, me and some other guy
<Getty> (not diff tool, i need an API)
<Marc> getty: but we got a bigger one coming up soon, "Aparently" as the it department told me :o
<Getty> mh
<Getty> what does your system do with that much code lines?
<Marc> its for the company system, processing various things, doing this, that and stuff
<ceeto> Hey all. Is there a way to return the unique row id generated with an insert on an auto_increment row in MySQL?
<Getty> Marc: which company style?
<Marc> IT
<Jymmm> !+sql
<php-bot> [SQL] Structured Query Language - the language for most DB Systems. See http://www.w3schools.com/ http://www.sqlcourse.com/ http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/19 and #mysql, #postgresql or #sql
<^Artnez> ceeto: MYSQL_INSERT_ID
<le_neko> !+sql
<ceeto> Thanks, I'll google it.
<^Artnez> ceeto: bah.. MYSQL_LAST_INSERT_ID
<^Artnez> ceeto: PHP also has its own functionality
<le_neko> (nice)
<^Artnez> ceeto: the mysql_insert_id() function
<Getty> Marc: mmhhh.. then you had done something not very frameworked ;)
<le_neko> !+pdf
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<Getty> Marc: i mean some complete sections of our system only got 5 lines code, but lots of stuff out of the SQL or Templates
<Marc> Getty: -.-
<Getty> i dont wanna imagine what we got when we reach 200k of code.....
<^Artnez> ceeto: however it is preferred to get the result directly from MySQL instead of calling the function PHP since I think MySQL will return the last insert id for that specific connection handle
<Marc> Getty: trust me it was needed, we could have easily gone over 300-400k lines of code, but we kept it to a minimum
<Getty> aehm 200k lines
<Getty> i'm reducing all the time, i dont get any bigger, i think 10k or 20k lines and we are finished
<Marc> Getty: this is only for our internal system.. our external system has a little less
<Getty> my system is both, internal and external, cause all the internal stuff is also done by external guys (games management / ticket management)
<Getty> it makes me a headache every day
<Marc> Hehe, i'm sure one day i'll get bored of php
<Getty> i hope i never
<le_neko> i hope i could :p
<Getty> cause i got the next orders for the next 2-3 years
<cynic> I <3 TexMmate.
<cynic> TextMate*
<Marc> Getty: i earn 64k a year for this
<Marc> £64k
<Marc> not $
<Marc> ;)
<slashdot> I have a PHP script that runs a bash script. When the bash script is launched from the php script, it does not work. When I launch the bash script from a shell, with exactly same parameters, it does work. Any ideas?
<Getty> what are pounds in euro at the moment?
<UltimateB|> .63 = 1 euro i think, just about
<Getty> is it after taxes or before? ;) if before just tell me please after takes
<Marc> thats 93k eur, and after taxes
<Marc> Bbs
<Getty> you earn 7750 EUR after taxes?
<Getty> per month?
<Marc> About that yes
<absentia> damn nice
<Marc> Brb
<Getty> call your boss he needs a new guy ;) (me)
<absentia> and I thought I ahd it sweet
<Getty> yeah me too
<Marc> Heh, we dont do much when we dont have projects *Cough* play games *Cough*
<absentia> where do you work ?
<Marc> for kent uni
<absentia> marc: how long have you been doing php ?
<nxvl> if i had a foo.php and a require function, wich call a file "inc/bar.inc" and this file require a file wich is in the same directory, must i call it as "include/file" or as "file"
<Marc> ages, dont ask how long >;o
<absentia> where is kent uni?
<Marc> In kent
<le_neko> that's what country ?
<Marc> United kingdom :/
<absentia> marc: I want to try to gte php to handle file uploads, but I don't wait it to do the normal "slurp" into a /tmp file and populate $_FILES ... is this possible ? I want to read the sdtin myself.
<absentia> ok, that's why I ask.. the euro thing. there's a kent uni in kentucky? :-)
<FatalRemedy> to overload a function do you just give redeclare with different paramaters?
<absentia> and I coldn't see kentucky paying in euros :-) or that much.
<absentia> me either.
<absentia> unis are really cheap
<Marc> heh i'll scan my payment reciept next payday
<Marc> bbl, gotta fetch wifey from train station
<elsyf> heh if coders get that much.. in kent, i'll move to kent
<absentia> ditto
<le_neko> you need to know that life cost a lot in UK
<absentia> acctually, the uk stuff is coming along
<absentia> :-)
<FatalRemedy> whats the best way to check of a variable is an array?
<le_neko> so people earn a lot
<^Artnez> FatalRemedy: I do not think PHP supports function overloading.
<^Artnez> FatalRemedy: is_array( $variable );
<FatalRemedy> thanks.
<FatalRemedy> thought it was isArray
<FatalRemedy> :)
<elsyf> heh, life is expensive in HK too, but we don't get that much
<^Artnez> FatalRemedy: You will run into some trouble if you want to differentiate between an ***ociative or numerical array ... but otherwise that works.
<Marc-PPC> hey again :-P
<le_neko> wow
<le_neko> i just calculate how much earn marc
<le_neko> lol
<le_neko> damn,
<nomisery> ive got a strange problem:
<Marc-PPC> What in dollars?
<nomisery> for ($x = 1; $x<=4; $x++){$matrix[$x][3] = (/*($matrix[1][1]*$matrix[$x][3])*/ + ($matrix[1][3]*$matrix[$x][1]));}
<nomisery> with a 4x4 matrix containing only the number 2 this leads to a third line looking like: 4 8 8 8
<le_neko> 7.75 K Euro a month
<le_neko> i dunno in dollor
<nomisery> why isnt that line 4 4 4 4...
<le_neko> higher number ;)
<elsyf> yeah.. he earns like $20k more than the managers
<absentia> that was before taxes?
<elsyf> according to the job vacancies site
<le_neko> i though
<Marc-PPC> nomisery i'd help you but im on my ppc, and im taking wife to dinner after ive got her from the station
<le_neko> but in anyway it makes a lot of money
<le_neko> if i divide it by 2 i am far from him haha
<nomisery> Marc-PPC, no problem
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