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<0> because they will still have numerical keys too
<1> Zule, notice that PHP6 will break a lot of PHP4 things
<2> like register globals and magic quotes? :)
<0> they are already working on php6? Not many people have even adopted php5 yet
<1> that's one thing
<3> hopefully all php4 things
<2> There was nothing wrong with php 4 :|
<0> magic quotes
<0> and register globals
<2> colder: Those I don't mind, anything else important I should know about though?
<0> is really really wrong
<1> Don't expect your PHP4 code to work properly on PHP6, its not ment to keep complete BC
<2> Well, granted that is true. But I like everything else.
<3> Zule: php5 is miles better in many ways imo =)
<2> That'll be fun :)
<4> any talk of PHP6+ to become compiled?
<2> Maybe by then we can be trying to write applications to sell that are php4, 5, and 6 compatible!
<5> will PHP6 have consistent function names and argument order? :-P
<1> Nomikos, no (:
<3> Nomikos, no
<5> now THAT would be an improvement, even if it did break everything..
<2> Bazzi: Well personally I don't see many new things to entice me to update
<6> Switch to another language and save yourself the h***le of umpteen rewrites.
<3> Zule: well I see a great many. Native SQLite support, new PCRE version, string function taking more than a char for input, improved stream handling, encapsulation in OOP, etc.
<5> error handling
<5> simpleXML is nice
<4> still planning on being loose type?
<3> yeah the whole XML handling has been vastly improved
<1> artax, of course
<6> They should have implemented type hinting fully to at least give people a choice to use it if they wanted to.
<3> they shouldnt have implemented it at all
<4> i never got the whole "it has to be strict"
<7> hello everybody
<8> is there any way i can just have sessions variables registered as global NOT requests?
<9> is there any opposit to empty() .. like notempty() ? :)
<6> heh
<10> Diphilus_: !empty() ?
<5> Diphilus_, ! empty() :-)
<1> Diphilus_, simply if ($var)
<3> type hinting is the one thing where they went to far IMO, php should still be dynamic
<10> colder: That's not equivalent.
<1> Tresnar, it is
<10> That can fail if $var is zero, or false in some other way
<10> Hrm
<1> Tresnar, empty($var) is the same as !$var
<10> Actually, I'm thinking set in terms of the one that would not failf or those
<1> Tresnar, read the doc about empty()
<10> colder: Already did. Just had isset and empty reversed. It's morning on my coast, and I have no business tech-supporting yet :/
<1> ah ;)
<11> hello
<1> well, the only difference is that no error will be thrown.
<11> is it true that the command line php interpreter has a different php.ini file?
<6> ghost: do phpinfo() and find out
<5> yep
<12> does anyone know how to query the structure of a table so i can automagically print new fields when they're created in the db?
<5> usually
<13> ghost, yes usually depeding upon your distro
<13> mandric, descride tbl;
<5> mandric, "explain my_table" i think
<12> i guess that's describe
<11> i tried typing php phpinfo () at the command line but it didn't like it
<5> ehr. something.
<13> yeah spelling was way off haha
<5> try a couple :-)
<12> ok
<13> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/describe.html
<5> mandric, mysql.com has bitching bad docs, but it's somewhere in there
<11> it just says syntax error
<11> does phpinfo() in a web page say anything about the command line interpreter?
<5> ghost, doubt it, try $ php -i
<10> ghost: It works differently than you're expecting.
<5> where $ is your prompt
<10> Type php, hit enter.
<10> This starts the php command-line interpreter.
<10> Then type in <?php phpinfo(); ?> and hit enter.
<10> That's the actual code (Still requires PHP opening/closing like usual)
<10> Then, hit Ctrl-D to signal the End of File. At this point it'll execute.
<5> Tresnar, "php -i" is the same only shorter ;-)
<10> Nomikos: Mine has a valuable lesson on why what he expected didn't show up. USELESS EDUCATING FOR JUSTICE!
<10> ... or something <shrugs>
<5> ehr.. if you say so. okay :)
<14> I'm observing some very strange behaviour with date() at http://transactionalweb.com/t.php
<11> okay how do i output that to a file ?
<5> ghost, php -i > file.txt
<14> I'm feeding it a timestamp, but the result is chaning from 5/1/2006 to 4/30/2006
<14> if you refresh several times you'll see it
<1> bewest, what is the strange behavior you're talking about ?
<14> colder: if you refresh several times you'll see the date change from 5/1/2006 to 4/30/2006
<14> same integer...
<14> different dates
<8> anyone know if _REQUEST is part of register_globals or is it just _GET _POST?
<14> very strange
<8> since variables_order doesnt include it
<1> bewest, I see, err, you should try to update php, 4.3.2 is quite old
<11> hmmm see the error i'm getting is "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() "
<14> define quite old
<14> what version of php are you recommending?
<14> 4.3.2 is pretty standard is it not
<8> the newest
<8> no
<11> mysql module is installed
<8> 4.3.2 has major seucirty holes
<1> bewest, the most recent php version on the 4 branch is 4.4.2
<14> the newest... meaning 5?
<14> ok
<8> newest in 4
<11> can happily connectto databases from web pages
<14> well
<8> although i would suggest going to 5
<14> in my experience 4.3.2 or thereabouts is installed on many many platforms
<14> I'm not sure I've seen 4.4.2. installed anywhere
<14> has anyone seen this behaviour though, or does anyone recall a bug on this?
<15> we have it
<1> bewest, well, if you take a look at: http://php.net/ChangeLog-4.php you'll see that _many_ things have been updated since 4.3.2
<14> 4.3.2 actually is an upgrade
<16> When i want to read a file and print it i use this code: $emaildata = fread($readlist,filesize($emaillist));
<16> fclose($readlist);
<16> but, it gives its output on 1 line
<16> while in the file, it are multiple lines
<16> is there any way to split the output?
<11> anyone have an idea why command line php would fail on mysql functions?
<1> karim^, php.net/nl2br
<16> thank you
<14> colder: ok, at this point I'm just curious if anyone has seen this kind of behaviour before
<17> stightly off-topic, but can anyone direct me to a magic.mime file that mime_magic or fileInfo would recognize?
<14> colder: I'm wondering if maybe it could be some kind of host thing
<1> bewest, you can search bugs.php.net
<14> specific to this host
<16> colder, i don't really see how i can use this, since i use the command print("$emaildata"); to output the content, where am i supposed to put the nl2br command?
<1> karim^, 1) you don't need to put the variable in double quotes, and you would have to put nl2br() around the variable
<16> ok
<1> and 3) print doesn't require parenthesis, and its even better not to use them ;)
<16> ok, thanks colder got it working :)
<1> you're welcome.
<18> my production server is ignoring php_value session.use_cookies 0
<18> my laptop use it well
<1> phpError, check the allowOverride configuration directive
<18> colder: I've no errors
<1> uh ?
<18> colder: it simply uses cookies
<1> what are you talking about ?
<18> colder: and I can state it by disabling them in the browser
<1> ah :)
<19> do a lot of people here use the MVC model?
<19> or a particular framework?
<1> in your script, use ini_get to check the value
<20> shildebrand: I'm sure some do.
<1> phretor, that was for you: check the allowOverride configuration directive
<18> colder: the php_value session.use_cookies 0 does not produce any error, it's simply ignored because I can see that user customisation remains untill I disable cookies
<19> is that the best way to switch between editing and presentation mode for an app?
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