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<0> pretty html
<1> that's not closed, but that's all the elements
<0> mmk
<1> need <h1>? just use <div cl***="header1"> or <div id="h1"> or similar
<1> need <strong> or <b>? use <span style="font-weight:bold">
<2> and all form control will be through xforms anyway
<0> waits for the tutorial for bash
<1> need forms? use ajax you nubcake
<1> oh, I forgot
<2> xhtml2.0
<1> <img/> and <object>
<0> yeah ajax.. i forgot that buzz word
<0> that solves everything
<1> <img/> only because you'd be too lazy to use <object type="image/png" data="image.png">alt text</object>
<2> jVz <a>?
<1> <span xlink:href
<1> oh wait
<1> ajax
<2> ajax is crap
<1> <div onclick="someajaxcrap()">
<2> and it will be for awhile
<1> or span
<2> until they iron out a few issues
<0> JVz: oh that is ajax?
<2> no that's javascript
<3> zircu: Never used AJAX?
<1> in this situation, definitely
<4> ...
<2> lol
<1> instead of clicking links
<4> AJAX *is* javascript
<4> :P
<0> how does it work? i havn't used it
<2> no
<1> you click text and get the content loaded in the <body> or something
<0> kuja: you know better i hope
<3> zircu: XMLHttpRequest -- Allows you to send remote HTTP requests from JS.
<5> heh
<2> AJAX is javascript, xml, xmlhttprequest (which is used in javascript, but technically not javascript)
<5> zircu: You had better listen up, Kuja may have something to teach you.
<1> instead of letting the browser load the content into the <html> DOMElement->parent, do it yourself
<0> kuja: i'm feeding the apparent troll
<4> cythrawll: which, = javascript
<4> :P
<2> but not really
<3> zircu: Just enlightening you :P
<2> cuz in ie it's whats that gay stuff called?
<2> activeX
<1> activexxx
<1> in my experience
<0> oh there is the next buzz word
<3> cythrawll: The implementation is browser specific. It's implemented as a JS object. It's JavaScript. Live with it.
<0> active x now
<2> techinically not javascript
<1> .net next
<0> yep figured
<3> Yojimbo: Yum :D
<2> technically
<5> zircu: XML, AJAX, ActiveX... we don't have too many more to hit.
<1> "Introducing Ajax.NET!"
<2> ALL IM SAYIN
<3> AJAX has been around for a while; It was JavaScript years ago, and it still is.
<1> all MSFT has to do is create an XML ripoff, start the acronym with A, and they can release AAAA technology
<1> or asynchronous activex and aml
<3> The fact that you can make remote calls from JS does not make it anything other than JS.
<2> ajax isn't anything new: its just a paradigm that popped up
<1> anyways
<2> someone put a name on it
<2> is all
<1> who knows how to get IETF to take RFCs?
<6> i thought ajax has been around for years just never 100% released
<1> I can totally write an XHTMLite standard
<2> i've got a gun
<1> and it will be the basis for Web 3.0 (or at least 2.1)
<3> Yojimbo: When you're Yojimbo, does that mean you're at work, or at home? :P
<0> i've got a popsicle
<1> it's backwards compatible with Web 2.0
<2> JVz when we do that, can we make ie implement it ?
<1> IE already supports it
<5> kuja: Erm, sure it does. Just because the interface to that component is available in JavaScript does not make that component itself JS.
<2> cuz you know they won't
<1> this is a strict subset of XHTML
<2> no: the dtd will cause the browser to crash
<5> kuja: Home, work is Lateralus
<1> cythrawll: that's the beauty of it; there won't need to be a doctype
<3> Oh okay
<2> thats INSANE
<0> hmm... lateralus is around?
<1> I mean, what kind of ajax developer adds a doctype?
<5> zircu: I ****ing hope not.
<5> zircu: I hate that guy.
<3> rofl
<2> lol
<3> Yeah, he's such an idiot! :P
<3> Yojimbo: Grabbed Lateralus today (Tool), missed listening to it :P
<2> well
<5> cool
<5> I just received my copies of Opiate, Undertow, and Aenima.
<1> I'll draft up XHTMLite tomorrow
<2> the problem with that is, this new standard will rely heavily on CSS for styling right?
<1> yes
<3> Yojimbo: *Just*? Slowpoke
<2> ie doesn't support CSS at all
<1> but that's different from current usage of XHTML how?
<5> kuja: My CD's tend to get stolen a lot.
<7> hey all!
<3> Yojimbo: Psh, harddisks for life :D
<1> it will be up to the web developer to find an appropriate ajax library
<5> kuja: Apparently I enjoy music which is popular amongst thieves.
<1> then, once all the annoying developers are using that, we can easily block it
<7> I use PHP on a very large site, and it seems that my apache performance degrades over time, which people on #apache are speculating is more related to php.
<1> versions?
<8> Yojimbo: or - you leave them in inappropriate places
<7> Can I read something about optimizing my php via php.ini or such?
<3> Yojimbo: I have some My Chemical Romance lying around, so... I theives apparently don't welcome themselves.
<2> orangey, of course they speculate that, their in #apache
<1> you can try using eaccelerator
<3> s/I //
<2> we would point you back to them if you came here first :p
<1> it's apache
<1> if you're using mpm
<0> hmm
<1> totally apache's fault
<5> kuja: Meh, no one likes My Chemical Romance. Who would want to steal that ****?
<1> less, who remembers how to write DTDs?
<7> JVz: apache 2.0.54 , php 4.3.10 with zend
<3> Yojimbo: Yeah, no ****. But *I* like it, so that makes me one very safe and happy man :)
<7> JVz: mpm?
<1> multithreaded
<7> JVz: any clues about solution?
<3> Yojimbo: I'm going to piss off some neighbors and blast this **** right now :P
<2> nm its zend!
<1> multi-processor modules or something like that
<7> cythrawll: I'm a student at university. I know alll about the runaround : )
<1> blame zend always
<1> join #zend
<1> ;p
<7> what's zend?
<2> i dunno you say you had it
<1> php backend
<2> you tell me
<7> JVz: that's an accelerator?
<2> what you got?
<1> you might have zend optimiser or something
<7> JVz: sounds right.
<1> did you pay for it?
<7> I definitely put on an optimizer of some variety that was fantastically helpful.
<7> nope. free
<3> orangey: Zend is a company.
<1> then it probably wasn't
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