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<0> if you fall asleep at work, or dont show up
<0> you deserve to be ****ed
<1> Artnez_, drugs, addictions, not going to work
<2> if you are screwed by something out your contro. the GOv does help you
<3> b1n0ry: Alright, so now they're prone to committing crimes to support themselves, which increases the workload for police.
<2> if you **** yourself up.. you deserve what you get
<0> true that
<4> mattmcc: then there's a shortage of people in the police force. let the jobless go through the academy and get jobs there.
<0> Lincoln said something really smart once, "The harder I try, the luckier I get."
<2> how are you proe to do anything.. like committing crimes?
<4> it's how the markets move
<0> b1n0ry: that's what the military is for
<5> b1n0ry: Actually, I think your line is "Let them eat 'cake'."
<2> as bad as peopel say stuff is everyone does have a fair shot
<3> Artax: You have no home, no money, and can't get a job. You need to survive. What do you do?
<4> TML: yep
<2> go to a shelter
<4> you poop your pants, you sit in it
<2> how do you have no home, no money?
<1> mattmcc: what everyone where I live does, get welfare
<3> Artax: No, we stopped funding shelters, b1n0ry said they're out of luck.
<2> again.. how do you have no home/money?
<3> tek_: Nope, we don't do that anymore, it's tough luck under b1n0ry capitalism.
<6> Artax: if you dont have a home, its *very* hard to get back on your feet
<2> go to the military
<5> mattmcc: Hmm...I had no home and no money, and managed to find a job regardless.
<0> mattmcc: you have to be more descriptive... depends on your age.. age is a big deal
<1> mattmcc: I get your logic, you don't have to preach to me i'm just helping you
<0> if your in your mid 30s, your ****ed
<4> mattmcc: well, what i would do... i would go to the local YMCA and take residence where they give me use of a telephone. i would go to local library and use the internet to search job boards and do some research. as a final resort, i would join the military.
<2> no home, no money, no citizenship you cna get a job look at s. California
<0> very hard to 'start' a career once you get past 34
<0> if you're in your mid 20s or below, you'll be okay as long as you work your way up
<3> b1n0ry: My point is that it is in the government's interest to support its citzens.
<0> otherwise, kiss your *** goodbye
<1> mattmcc: you suppose, no matter what it is?
<0> and get used to living broke
<2> no.. its a citizens interest to support citizens
<4> mattmcc: i agree, but there's a difference between supporting citizens and repeatedly throwing money at stupid people
<3> b1n0ry: Education, particularly, is critical. The more you put into education, the more you save on welfare, police, the prison system, etc.
<0> mattmcc: forget about it. education will never prosper in this country.
<3> Artax: One might say that, ideally, the government is the people. ;)
<3> Naturally we can't live in an ideal world, but that's another matter.
<7> thus written.. we the people..
<0> school teachers are dumb as dog**** because they themselves know nothing. college/uni educations mean total **** except for the fact that you have a piece of paper that says 'hey i paid my dues now give me a job'
<4> i know people that live in florida. they don't have insurance on their home. why? because they are so conditioned and confident that the red cross and donations will help them if they lose their home that they don't even take the incentive to take care of themselves. supporting a person like that is very different than supporting a person who at least takes the initiative to help themselves.
<1> Artnez_ you have no way to say that. There are plenty of well educated people in tis room right now
<0> and even then you'll get some entry level **** job
<5> mattmcc: Sure, it was a crap job cleaning up on construction sites, but I worked up to where I was doing the construction, then operating the equipment, then went to work at a mine operating the same equipment while I "cross-trained" myself in being a ***ayist, did that for a while until I managed to teach myself computer programming.
<0> tek_: yes, there are. educated by their own free will. they didn't teach you PHP in high school.
<5> mattmcc: And I'm firmly of the opinion that if I can do it, so can anyone else with the will.
<3> Artnez_: That just returns to why it's important to spend money on education. Why are our teachers not the greatest? We pay them ****.
<1> Artnez_ right, but how does that become the coutnries fault if someone choose ignorance?
<0> it all depends on the person, and capitalism does not promote education
<1> nor the educational systems fault
<4> we live in a country that's built on gambling. some win, some lose. more lose than win. oh well, that's the gamble.
<8> Can anyone see anything wrong with http://pastebin.com/571014?
<8> without the ?
<1> I learned plenty in school being that I applied myself, it's purely a choice public education can be beneficial. as I think einstein says? don't let school get in the way of your education
<0> tek_: its not the countries fault, its the people's fault for accepting a system of government that does not promote good education (not that its bad)
<9> Artnez_: Actually, my high school offers PHP..
<4> anyway, it's after 5. i gotta be getting home. got a weekend ahead of me.
<6> Artnez_: one of the other schools will teach you PHP
<0> itrebal: i'm sure there are schools like that out there
<1> Artnez_ what kids in your school would EVER want to learn PHP?
<5> root404: Well, for starters, pick a different delimiter to make your expressions more readable
<1> 3% if the educational system is lucky?
<0> tek_: the point is, i (like many of you here) are sitting in a IRC room talking about PHP (most of the time, lol) because we love doing it
<0> we are lucky
<10> hi! is there anyone who would know how to compile php on windows with odbc?
<0> because our interest is in a civil, peaceful, activity
<5> root404: What exactly is the problem you're having with this code?
<0> but how about those that find selling dope interesting, or doing drive bys
<8> TML: Any domain inputted always shows as unavailable..
<11> does php have any functions that can get a histogram from an image to determine it's dominant color?
<1> I am here because I enjoy programming. I have also found that coincedentally (most the time) people that are in here and actively program are less likely to be innate whack***es, in my personal experiences.
<0> in this country you can become a millionare by creating a plastic utencil that can pick popcorn out of a bag in movie theatres
<5> root404: Then I would check what's being returned from the shell_exec()
<1> If you want to get more intelligent, spend time learning from people that are smarter than you... that's why I'm here.
<1> And I love TML
<5> he
<5> "heh", even
<1> That's his way of saying he loves me too
<8> TML: It's working right
<8> TML: http://insertdomainhere.org/domain/
<12> TML: You like that comic
<8> Enter in a working one, and then a non one.
<12> ?
<12> drat
<3> TML: I'm not saying you're ****ed when you become homeless and peniless, I'm saying it becomes a signifcant challenge which many people (whether they _can_ or not) don't overcome.
<1> perseverance is failing * times and succeeding the *th time
<5> Stormchaser: I actually have looked at it once before, but it's been many a year, and the art quality has improved *dramatically*
<13> "need to release some RAM"? as if any irc client could eat up your ram
<14> suddenly when you have no home and no money, you can't open up a bank account anymore, can't take as shower, can't get a job interview, can't do anything anymore
<5> root404: When you say "it's working right", are you saying you no longer have a problem?
<11> does php have any functions that can get a histogram from an image to determine it's dominant color?
<5> Renacor: I don't think so
<8> TML: I mean the shell_exec is returning the right stuff.
<3> Renacor: Feel free to write one.. :) There are functions to get the image values for each pixel, and statistical packages in PEAR. Slam'em together.
<12> TML: True... It's fantastic :)
<12> I wish to draw like that
<11> looks like this does it http://phpcl***es.elib.com/browse/package/15.html
<11> but you gotta subscribe
<1> which comic Stormchaser?
<5> root404: When I submit your form it just loops back to the same page with no output.
<3> Renacor: Yeah, you have to subscribe because Maneul Lemos has an ***-backwards view on the world.
<12> tek_: inverloch
<1> Link?
<8> ...?
<12> tek_: www.seraph-inn.com
<11> mattmcc: very silly
<8> TML: Do you have javascript turned off?
<5> Renacor: Yes, that's one of the most common complaints about PHP Cl***es, and the primary reason I'll *never* use PHP Cl***es code in my projects.
<1> Whose is this?
<5> root404: My browser doesn't support javascript.
<3> Renacor: Yes, countless people over the years have told him it's silly.
<8> TML: Ah...Hmm..
<15> heh
<16> hey guys, i can't find out how to get the contents of a directory
<3> It used to be a frequently recoccuring topic on the php3 mailing list.
<12> tek_: Sarah Ellerton
<0> cmatheson: are you using PH5 or anyting below?
<16> Artnez_: PHP4
<1> very nice
<0> http://us2.php.net/function.opendir
<0> ^ cmatheson
<16> Artnez_: thanks!
<0> aye aye, dont forget to check the manual first :)
<16> Artnez_: heh, i was looking at the file system functions but somehow i missed it (i was looking for something like ls() or dir())
<0> you can technically use ls if you're on a nix box but that wouldnt be a good idea anyway
<16> i see
<3> Not exactly machine-friendly output.
<0> right
<17> how can I print out which web browser I use
<0> dbe: $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'];
<0> or http://us2.php.net/function.get-browser
<17> Aramir, thx
<18> can I echo the information from an rss feed into a different html page with php?
<3> "When I say LOL, I'm not laughing out loud, I just have nothing better to say."
<19> "LOL"
<20> well said Jymmm
<21> doesw anyone know a way of making a completely text submit button (without the outline) without using JavaScript or an image
<22> Anyone happen to know of a place that has both php5-imagick AND php5-mcrypt packages for debian? the unstable tree doesn't have php5-imagick, and the 3 or 4 places that do have php5-imagick... don't have mcrypt
<23> K***ah: use lynx
<21> spox, not client specific :)
<0> K***ah: a form submit "button" as text without using javascript?
<21> Artnez_, a button without the 'button' look
<22> You could tweak the CSS to some extent...
<0> but without an image?
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