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<0> Artax: Erm. Clinton presided over some of the only fiscal periods where we had a _surplus_ in recent history.
<0> (budget surplus, that is)
<1> -6 billion
<2> yeah, he did create the whole deficit
<3> US has been in defecit sine. umm forever
<4> no, the recession created the deficit. he just pulverized it with the war
<0> Artax: You're confusing deficit with debt.
<3> just liek almost every other country out there
<5> i like what Dennis Miller said, "deficit, what the **** is that? do we owe people money? if we do, **** it, dont give it to em. there, problem solved. no more deficit"
<3> mattcc: yor right
<6> interesting how people somehow ***ume that the president controls the economy.
<0> Artax: A budget deficit refers to when expenses in a single fiscal period are greater than income.
<7> b1n0ry: He does more so than you or I do.
<1> just hire more economic hit men and solve the problem
<6> nitishp: nope, not true, consumers control the american economy. you and i collectively control the economy. nobody else.
<3> i think bush did the best any other candidate would have done if 9/11 hit them when they first took office either.. he hadnt really had a chance (his own fault or not) to do anythign with the country
<1> Artax: I semi agree with you on that
<7> b1n0ry: Last I checked, you couldn't raise tariffs or get your buddies to raise 'em for you.
<2> Artax, bush did great with 911 and with katrina
<3> the tax cuts really help, and i think in the next 2 years or so we will start to see the posiitive reprocusions
<5> b1n0ry: the US government is always in a clash with the corporations (remember the 40s?). the Corporations want freedom to jack up prices and use sleazy tactics to get rich. The government wants the power over the corporations to follow up on their ideological goals.
<2> i'm sure no one could have done it better
<3> bush did excellent with katrina..
<7> haha
<3> he did all he was supposed to do.. it wasnt his problem
<3> really
<3> it ws the local gov ****up
<1> b1n0ry HAHAHA
<7> He could of hid the country in a lock box..
<2> haha. 'aint my problem people are dying in my country'
<3> yup
<1> b1n0ry "we have fired the scientists that made air possible... sorry darwin.."
<6> tek_ lol
<3> Florida doesnt need federal help like that.... we take care of ourselves and we gert hit worse almost every year
<3> we build to withstand, we prepare before and we help ourselves afgter
<1> what's like the worst thing that could happen to America?
<2> no..
<2> you re-build every year
<5> Artax: dont be so quick to say that.
<2> that's not build to withstand
<1> like since there's so much "bad" stuff, what's like the WORST that could happen?
<2> got dykes? no
<3> we have really bad flooding every hurricane
<6> here's a question... New Orleans is a purely liberal society adhering to liberal standards as outlined by the liberal platform... so why is it such a piss-poor dive for welfare recipients and not a thriving utopia of wealth and social well-being?
<3> and yes have you been to south beach> we have tons of dykes
<5> only reason New Orleans got swallowed up was the fact that it was below sea level.. far below
<3> New Orleanians chose to sit on their ***es
<5> so does FL
<3> cause they are a very laid back society
<6> that's kinda what socialism promotes
<6> sitting on ***es
<5> FL gets bitch slapped every year
<3> yup, we do
<3> btu we build toa strict building code too.
<5> only difference is that we have buh's fam in here
<2> hehe. new orleanians deserved to die, because they sat on their ***es, and it wasn't the governments responsibility, that's a new one
<1> why realize the hurricane that was ****ING HUGE wasn't the governments fault when its sooo much easier to just blame them?
<3> our houses dont get destroyed in bad weather or flooding
<5> so they have more influence over funds nad policy
<6> where's the incentive to work hard when you have to share everything you earn with people who don't work hard?
<0> Artax: I'm afraid you can't blame the failure of New Orleans' levee system on the citizens; Funding for them was cut to virtually nothing and moved to Iraq.
<3> umm funding was cut long before iraq
<3> thats just an excuse to blame the administration
<6> mattmcc: since when is it the federal governments responsibility to take care of the citizens of an individual city?
<5> Artax: what?! i remember that video of a ****ing gynmasium gettings roof torn off somehwere at west palm beach
<1> mattmcc: when was funding cut for the levee? and how long was that levee there already anyway?
<0> b1n0ry: Um, federal funding contributes to municipal infrastructure virtually everywhere.
<3> Artenez;; yeah, a handful of buildings.. not the entire city
<1> since when did FEMA become insurance?
<5> Artax: that had NOTHING to do with florida's preparedness
<0> b1n0ry: Highways, transit, power and water distribution..
<1> mattmcc: in the form of what, grants?
<5> i tell you again Artax, NO is far below sea level
<5> the kind of storm would have swallowed up NO unless they had category 4 levees
<3> Florida is below sea level too... Pompany, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami they all fllodd all the time.. just in bad rain
<6> personally, if someone chooses to live in a high-risk area, that person ***umes the risk. at least that's the way it should be.
<6> they die? screw em
<5> b1n0ry: amen
<8> Oviedo isn't below sea-level
<6> they lose their home and didn't have insurance? screw em
<3> but the peopl in NO didnt have food/.water.. we buy that **** before season and sit on 2 weeks worth of food.. its just what you do
<5> i always wondered what the **** people were still doing in Berlin during the end of 45
<1> b1n0ry: well if nothing else don't act like it was the feds fault they chose to reside there
<3> why didnt they have insuracne?>
<1> that's just ridiculous
<0> b1n0ry: Alright, let's extend that logic. If a person makes some stupid life decisions that lead to them losing their job?
<6> mattmcc: then they can go homeless
<6> mattmcc: welcome to capitalism, my man
<5> mattmcc: define 'stupid life decisions'
<3> b1n0ry: right on.. you get what you make for yourself
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