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<0> ?
<1> foo: your confused, and I am therefor much mroe confused on waht you are trying to acomplish
<2> MalMen: you cant divide by zero
<1> phpcodinfool: the pdflib that you 'pay for' is the same one you can use for free..
<3> myconid: so you dont NEED a license key
<4> !+pdf
<5> [PDF] Portable Document Format - If you want to generate PDFs using PHP you can try FPDF (http://www.fpdf.org/), PDFLib. PDF Developer Reference available here: http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/pdf/index_reference.html
<6> torpid - I ***ume $coach_picture is set somewhere else?
<0> ido yes, but that its a script
<1> phpcodinfool: I dont know for sure, but I think there is a commercial version that has more features tha tneeds akey
<7> yes, $coach_picture is that path to the file
<8> myconid: Hmm, alright, let me try to shorten. Files will be uploaded to a FTP server, I will be generating stats from these files. Is it best to populate the database with new files after each upload of bulk files, or to populate database when someone views a web page (have some function check that the database info / filesystem match) ... probably the latter, just wanted to confirm.
<9> pulling my hair out here
<9> I've got an Object stored in the session
<3> ahh... well i wrote this script on a windwos box.. and my apache installer had phplib out of the box.. moved the script to nix.. and no dice.. i'll read through the bots suggestions and see what i can find
<9> I'm trying to display the value of one of the vars in the object, but it's not working



<1> phpcodinfool: looks like pdflib 5 is free?
<9> Can I just do echo $_SESSION['Order']['_dateNeeded'];?
<1> foo: just scan the FS every 10 minutes for files taht dont exist in the DB, and put them in.
<6> torpid - what does the resulting image look like?
<8> myconid: Alright, with a cron job. Alright. Thanks
<1> foo: or even better.. have the FTP upload to a staging dir.. and run a scrip tevery minute.. and when it sees a new file, it moved it into place and inserts it
<8> myconid: hmm, I prefer the former. Files will be going to different directories.
<1> foo: i would suggest a staging dir..
<1> foo: ftp is insecure.. you dont want direct access to live files
<7> enygma: it is a 100*88 thumbnail
<6> torpid - try taking out the imagedestroy and the $img=$tmp_img; and just imagejpeg($tmp_img, $coach_picture, 100);
<7> all I care about is the thumbnail
<8> myconid: Gocha. Thanks
<10> Any chance of of explain to me why in example 19-4, it says that '$***igned will have this value', if $***igned is a copy of $instance? Is this a mistake in their example, or am I not getting it? http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.basic.php
<7> right -- I hammered this code in from a snippet that was meant to do something else
<11> myconid, phpcodinfool: PDFlib isn't free anymore.
<3> TML: so it DOES require the license key?
<4> TML (was it ever free?)
<11> myconid, phpcodinfool: There's a demo version that creates PDFs with a big ugly watermark on them, and a header or footer that says "Created with Demo Version of PDFLib"
<3> TML: i just found a .so file
<9> There's a lite version
<11> Jymmm: Yes, it *used* to be. In fact, anything prior to 3.0.0
<9> that is free
<9> PDFlib lite
<3> http://www.pdflib.com/products/pdflib/download/index.html
<1> http://www.pdflib.com/products/pdflib/download-source.html
<4> TML Hmmm, always thought it was a paid product, then someone created FreePDF
<7> just wondering, if I do $foo=$bar in php, am I changing the value of $foo or just reasigning a reference?
<3> so i have it on my windows box... and it works.. and its not crippled.. how can i move it to my linux box?
<11> Jymmm: It was open source for many years. I fixed innumerable bugs in it.
<11> Jymmm: Then they forked and went closed...can't even begin to describe how pissed I was.
<11> phpcodinfool: futang is saying they have a PDFlib lite now that is free. I suggest looking into that. If so, it's a fairly recent development.
<10> Can someone help me understand example 19-4 from http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.basic.php ?
<4> TMLL I bet
<9> PDFlib lite: http://www.pdflib.com/products/pdflib/download-source.html
<11> toodles: What do you not understand about it?
<12> heh, got another question. If I wanted to parse a HTML file and found something like this [blog:recent:X] and wanted it to retrieve the last X number of posts, how should I go about doing it?
<13> I don't think mysql is working with php on my apache server. when I use <?phpinfo()?> should anything about sql come up? the only thing that does is sql.safe_mode off.
<3> futang: thx, i'll check thout out
<12> I think I could do an ereg_replace, but, would that be efficient?
<3> that*
<11> scottj: You don't appear to have the mysql extension loaded
<9> This is also interesting: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/boom/
<11> GregVernon: Use preg_match()
<10> TML: look at the string its ***igning...
<12> okay
<9> It talks about an app that will print XML to PDF, using CSS
<1> toodles: when the isntance is set to null, it no longer references the object (which still exists, but now only referenced by $***igned).. if you set ***igned to null, the object would be destroyed
<11> toodles: Yes
<9> phpcodinfool, you should check that out too
<11> toodles: What about it?
<10> TML: i dont get why it says that '$***igned will have this value', if $***igned is a copy of $instance?
<1> toodles: so when the string is ***igned, they are both referencing the same object.
<1> one handle to the object is just destroyed later.
<9> it's not free, but it looks a lot easier to format the documents than trying to muddle around with PDFlib
<3> futang, yeah i've seen that, it does look better, i dont want to have to re-write this damn script though
<13> TML, how do I load it?
<10> myconid: yes, but they're not referenced to the same object
<1> toodles: yes they are
<14> Does anyone think there are any advantages, as far as usability/features, to building a website from scratch instead of using a CMS?
<1> Aw0L: totally



<9> phpcodinfool, I hear that. I am planning to use it for an upcoming project though. PDFlib is a PITA
<12> Aw0L: currently, i'm building a CMS from scratch :P
<11> toodles: In PHP5, objects are referenced rather than copied.
<11> toodles: But it's a weak reference, as you can see from the example.
<10> myconid: Is $***igned not a copy of $instance, and $reference not a reference to $instance.
<14> myconid, such as?
<1> Aw0L: i bill by the hour. the advantages should be obvious.
<10> TML: then whats the difference between = and =& ???
<14> I need to build a company intranet, and I'm debating about whether I should use a CMS or just build everything myself (and learn php!)
<3> yeah, pdf lib reminds me of using bitblt
<11> myconid: $***igned is a (weak) reference to $instance, $reference is a (strong) reference to $instance
<1> Aw0L: just use joomla
<11> toodles: $***igned is a (weak) reference to $instance, $reference is a (strong) reference to $instance
<11> Sorry, wrong person
<12> Aw0L: learn php, you could develope everything to what it *has* to be
<1> TML: I saw an example somewhere of defining a function with a & before it, what does that do?
<11> toodles: That example is there to *demonstrate* the difference.
<14> I figured doing everything myself might be a better learning experience
<1> Aw0L: do it on your own time.. you dont know enough to properly set up the intranet honestly.
<11> myconid: That function returns a reference.
<10> TML: ok, am begining to understand. But still don't see the differences.
<14> but CMS systems seem, at least to me, to lack flexability - especially when it comes to design
<1> TML: why would I want to do that?
<1> Aw0L: they are template driven.. joomla lets you lay it out anyway you want..look at their examples
<12> Aw0L: I totally agree, which is why I make everything myself
<1> wordpress is another great CMS example.. that is completely controllable
<14> myconid, this is a simple intranet - I know enough to build it myself, there just may be some extra features I'd have to learn how to add
<11> toodles: The difference is that $instance and $reference point to the same instance, whereas $***igned is a copy-on-write reference to $instance.
<1> Aw0L: you just saiy you were going to do this to 'learn' php ..
<11> myconid: I've never had reason to do so, myself.
<14> myconid, as far as adding some features, yes - but I anticipate only basic needs for the language
<10> TML: Ok. Can you tell me where I find out what a copy-on-write reference is? Btw, thats for helping :-) Much appreciated!
<11> toodles: In example 19-4 on http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.basic.php
<0> sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
<0> thats is all right no?
<0> from mail()
<11> MalMen: That's a question for your MTA documentation
<10> TML: so, a copy-on-write reference will allow me to access the original objects instance variables, but is not effected if I remove the original object by letting it equal null? Would that be right?
<2> how is it that some cl***es are bazzhar where you can $cl*** = new Cl***; $cl***->dosomething(); echo $cl***; and it'll echo some shtuff?
<0> # man mta
<0> No manual entry for mta
<2> palm + face
<2> I got a new B***oon today!!
<11> toodles: That sounds correct
<15> !+MTA
<5> from memory, mta is hmm... mta is a mail transfer agent, in other words sendmail or any of its replacements (such as exim-tls, postfix-tls, qmail, ssmtp, zmail, etc)..
<10> TML, nice one. Thanks man. Are there other difference in this type of reference that I should be aware of?
<10> TML, *differences
<11> toodles: Not that I know of, but I don't use PHP5, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask.
<10> TML, you've been a great help! Thank you very much ;-)
<2> http://www.foxproducts.com/images/instruments/bsn_240_220_lrg.jpg <-- its pretty
<4> itreba1: Um....
<11> itreba1: They use the __toString magic method
<16> wtf is thats? an old gun? :P
<16> s/thats/that
<15> itreba1: Nice flute :)
<2> ddaammnn..... its a B***oon! (or Faggott if your German)
<11> itreba1: The instrument?
<15> baha, yea, that's it... Flute is something else :/
<16> lol
<2> TML: yea
<2> gotta go
<17> skin flute?
<11> <:O
<3> whats the default location for php on linux.. cant find where to drop this .so file
<18> If you're talking about extensions, check phpinfo() for your extension_dir setting.
<3> good call, heheh
<16> i think he's talking about mod_php?.so
<11> No, he's talking about pdflib.so
<16> ah okay
<3> yeah.. pdflib.so
<16> drop it on Trash :)
<11> <div>: XHTML's whipping boy
<19> haha


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