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<0> Kog: *do*
<1> TML: how optomistic of you
<0> caff, HG: Either of you have a Krugle account yet?
<2> anyone know anything about include_path?
<3> TML: at the risk of sounding stupid .. what's a krugle?
<1> TML: for some reason my boss let my co-worker build 3 debian boxes and 1 ubuntu
<4> caffinated: Even with internal applications we have to watch out sometimes, 12,000 employees.
<1> TML: we're running a server with ubuntu on it...
<0> caffinated: source code search engine
<3> TML: nope, never seen it
<1> TML: when I asked why we're running Debian, guess what the answer was
<3> HolyGoat: haha, we have like .. 50 employees
<1> TML: "I know how to use apt-get"
<0> Kog: My belief is based on empirical data I have access to as an employee of one the world's larger Linux vendors.
<0> caffinated: krugle.com, check out their demo
<1> TML: and my data is based on knowing a few hundred sysadmins... my sample isn't exactly miniscule
<3> ok, thanks
<1> TML: my viewpoint doesn't necessarily preclude yours
<4> I've seen krugle once, now that I'm looking at it again.
<1> but yours precludes mine
<5> Kog: Then grab yourself a copy of Ubuntu testing... That is probably wat you want instead of complaining about Debian
<4> caffinated: Sometimes I'd really love to work in a company with <100 employees
<1> Stormchaser: huh? I don't run X
<1> Stormchaser: I run gentoo myself
<0> Kog: We've spent a lot of money finding out why people use the Linux they use. A *lot* of money.
<4> caffinated: I thought I'd never come to hate guys who use unix, but I'm really starting to hate our unix team, heh.
<5> Kog: what the... Whoi says, that you HAVE to run X on Ubuntu?!?
<1> TML: companies aren't the sole users of linux...
<2> its fun to wait a couple of days before running apt-get upgrade, so you have a 300mb download
<1> Stormchaser: I thought that was the entire point of ubuntu - X + newer packages
<1> Stormchaser: I'm not complaining about Debian, it works just fine
<1> Stormchaser: I'm merely noting that a lot of people use Debian because of apt-get
<5> Kog: That "X" is debatable
<1> Stormchaser: then why is there Kubuntu if the sole difference is KDE?
<0> Kog: Well, that's why our research isn't solely in companies. It's also in LUGs, Universities, secondary schools, mailing lists, distrowatch.com, vendor fairs and conferences...
<6> KDE and their default appz against gnome and their defaults
<6> its just more then just 'kde'
<5> Kog: The problem is, that KUbuntu isn't a fork, but a *PART* of Ubuntu
<6> yup
<1> TML: so I guess my own personal experience must be invalid. Ok.
<6> apt-get install kubuntu-base or something?
<1> TML: I bow to your qualitative statistics ;)
<5> SinnerG: No idea... I just added kubuntu in the apt-repository and dist-update :)
<1> Stormchaser: whatever... I really don't care. I run **** that works, and I run packages that I like
<6> lol :p
<1> Stormchaser: I'm not going to get into a distro war
<7> glob('*') in a dir with 100,000 files segfaults php. Should I report the bug or is it just too unusual a condition?
<8> does anyone have an example of proper include paths/.htaccess for when i'm using the zend framework?
<5> Kog: *blink*
<3> TML: damn, that's cool
<9> good evening fellow code monkies !
<3> TML: did they reply at all to your request for an account?
<5> jorik: Um... most people here aren't "code monkies"...
<10> Nuxi: PHP should not segfault at all ... so yes report it.
<9> hehehe :p
<1> hahaha, someone segfaulted php? interesting
<11> lalalala
<3> that's right, please send all your core dumps to kog@.. :)
<12> i need someone to help me match the word "test" everywhere in, say, an HTML document, EXCEPT when inside an <input element... i have no idea what this regex would look it
<1> caffinated: kog@php.net? sure
<3> haha
<3> Kog: do you actually have an account there? or is that a spot of humor?
<1> caffinated: you don't know who I am?
<3> Kog: not a clue
<1> caffinated: oh good... for a second I thought I got famous and didn't know it
<10> lol
<0> caffinated: Yes
<0> caffinated: I'm something like number 1200 in line. :(
<3> Kog: mind you, my attendance in channel has been spotty for the last year, so I've been out of the loop.
<1> caffinated: naw, I was just joking
<3> TML: aw, that ****s
<3> TML: everyone in the office wants to try it now
<2> include_path?
<2> anyone know about?
<13> what do I need installed on my test server to get php form mailers to be able to send mail?
<14> is xslt good to use for templating?
<3> subsonic-: for various interpretations of 'good'
<15> how can I block all html code from forms except for <a>...</a> ? :-\
<4> purefusion: php.net/strip-tags, have a look at the parameters
<16> Hope someone can help - have a strange problem
<17> Is there anyway to determine if a cookie was accepted?
<16> I have a form where any quotes that are input are converted to HTML quotes
<16> then inserted into MySQL
<18> schleyfox, check it on the next request? :)
<19> i think setcookie will return false on error
<6> nope.. atleast wont know it :p
<17> no
<16> however, if the quotes are in a textarea, they don't go into MySQL as “, it goes in as a curly quote character
<16> so when I pull it back out of the db and put it in an email, it has a garbage character for the quote
<6> work with some sort of session id => go to page => set cookie with code X => javascript to another page => compare cookie with session data
<16> any suggestions on how to resolve this?
<17> wait, could I use js to check cookies?
<6> I think so..
<17> I shall look into this, because js is what is complicating the stuff the most
<19> js is turned off in some environments, dont rely on it
<3> itrebal: javascript is turned off in almost no environments.
<17> I know that js is turned off in some environments, but I can have it fail safe
<3> and in those that it is, the user expects things to break
<19> caffinated: yes, it is turned off in very few, but it should *not* be dependant on javascript
<3> itrebal: turn javascript off and go to a few popular sites on the web. see how long it takes before you're frustrated with everything.
<17> actually, because I also need to check the availability of js, that might be the best way to do things
<17> at the moment I am working on making simple page views not dependant on js or cookies
<3> what happens if a user doesn't have javascript on your site?
<17> degrade gracefully and such
<19> caffinated: on mine?
<17> they can view the pages that are declared public
<3> so, your site is largely non-functional?
<17> if they want to edit pages or do anything that requires permissions
<17> they need js and cookies
<3> without javascript that is
<16> any ideas on the quote formatting question?
<17> without js it is fully functional
<17> for normal users
<3> that's not so bad then
<17> requiring site admins and moderators who agree to use my crap to have js
<17> yeah
<3> it's pretty much what we do as well, since we need to have our public pages crawlable
<17> yeah
<19> caffinated: where is it you work again?
<5> caffinated: gmail hichs you into the "standard" mode... no fancy stuff, if you lack JS...
<3> itrebal: why is that even important?
<5> *kicks
<19> caffinated: just curious,not at all
<3> itrebal: I work for bravenet
<6> ok evil PEAR.. found out it uses alot of global variables :s
<19> right - that was the one
<17> wait, is that that site that I used to get tacky web counters off of back in like 1998 when tacky hit counters were hot ****?
<17> w00w00 nostalgia
<20> newsflash, they were never hot
<20> :p
<17> I was like 9 at the time :p
<17> I felt like hot **** in any case, with my bravenet membership, my tacky web counter, and my flashy java applet that made reflective text
<17> or something
<17> now that I think about it, I got beat up on the playground a lot over that stuff
<21> I had a project thrown at me that uses pears DB library for database interaction, i've never used it before and am trying to figure out how to delete a row with it, the only thing I could find resembling drop or delete was dropSequence, which doesn't look like it does what i am looking for
<22> hey
<22> does anyone know where I can get some dreamweaver extensions that could help me out in php coding?
<22> I saw this friend of mine that had on extension that genereated upload code, with the form and everything
<22> does anyone know where I could get something like that
<16> anyone here familiar with converting MS Word quotes to HTML via PHP?
<12> how can i match any word that's _not_ within the text: title="(whateverhere)"
<5> yay! Page 11 complete \o/
<23> i have a problem: i'm trying to upload an mp3, but my upload thing isn't working. it works for text and pictures, but it seems the bigger the file, the bigger problem it has. any thoughts?
<12> Dereck: is it timing out?
<23> no. the info just stops working. like for mp3s, it doesn't register the type or tmp_name
<5> Dereck: what's the upload size limit?
<23> for video it doesn't register anything
<23> i think i have it at like 100MB
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