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<0> sorry
<1> theGZA: for loops increment $i explicitly IE: for ($i = 0; $i < 6; $i++)
<1> (note the last part - $i++)
<0> that doesnt make any sense
<0> shouldn't it be correct?
<0> WHILE $i is LESS THAN SIX
<1> lightbringer: you may need to build cURL, but if you have sockets built...
<0> echo out $i ?
<1> theGZA: but you aren't incrementing $i, so it's always 0
<2> Kog, if this server POSTs this information to me, should I use cURL for that too (I'm doing fsockopen now, that probably won't work)?
<0> oh
<0> i see, ok
<3> theGZA: you should be using a for loop for that anyway
<1> lightbringer: cURL can get the response... it'll print it by default, but you can set a curl_opt to capture to a var
<1> Spoom: most likely... but he's doing pedagogical research
<3> ah ok



<4> hi
<4> why it doesnt print \t on page
<1> koye: because you're using ' instead of "
<4> when i do print $str;
<3> probably because all whitespace is treated the same in html
<4> is there a way to print \t and other on page
<1> Spoom: damn youze.
<3> hehe
<5> was wrong with this, i want *.* -> *.png ........... preg_replace("/\..*/",".png",$filename)
<3> koye: what are you trying to print?
<4> well ... one long line
<3> (in the larger sense, i know you're trying to print a tab)
<4> but there is some \t in there
<4> i want to be able to print those on pabe
<4> and use it with copy/paste
<3> you could probably do that by wrapping them in <pre> tags
<3> or using header("Content-type: text/plain") if you're not using html at all
<1> Spoom: or a str_replace for 4x/8x &nbsp;
<3> yep, that would work too
<5> anyone?
<3> i'm not that good at regex aec27, sorry
<1> aec26: looks like your regex is wrong
<1> you probably want *\.* - unless * is a reserved char
<1> aec26: your current one looks for .(any char)*
<6> Actually, I'd say make your regex this: /\.[^\.]+$/
<1> one sec... sorry, * is a quantifier
<6> That says find a dot, find anything not a not multiple times, and at the end of the string.
<1> {0,n}
<6> not a dot multiple times*
<5> np cool, i think i have a way fwd
<5> dot a not? ;)
<1> Zule: probably be faster to str_replace
<6> Not if you don't know the extension
<6> Though there is always strpos.
<1> strrpos
<1> (you'll want the last position of .)
<7> $filename = substr($filename, 0, strrpos($filename, '.')).'.png';
<1> MarkL: bingo
<1> glad to see one of us isn't too lazy to write it ;)
<3> hehe
<7> ;)
<5> MarkL to the rescue again!
<1> MarkL: you seen matt around?
<7> Kog: Not since yesterday
<1> MarkL: ok, I sent him a memo, but I haven't heard back from him. It was in regards to something he and I had discussed previous
<8> Kog: matt hasn't been on since Saturady
<8> Saturday
<1> TML: ah, I was at a LAN party then heh
<7> TML: Yeah, it's Sunday here .. well it was 14 minutes ago ;)
<8> !+seen mattmcc
<9> mattmcc <n=matt@069-064-228-130.pdx.net> was last seen on IRC in channel ##php, 3d 37m 9s ago, saying: 'Kog: It does, but so does include.'.
<10> im so full had a good dinner.. stuffed artichokes, chicken brochettes, rice
<1> piera: ##cooking is your friend
<8> piera: What's a brochette?
<10> Kog: not really for me =oP
<10> TML: shish kebab?
<1> piera: you can at least listen to our awesome recipes. One of the cooks is a royal danish chef
<8> ah
<1> TML: ok, I guess I've seen him as recently as anyone has ;)
<11> jeezh
<10> Kog: heh but I don't cook.. I burn Kraft Dinner



<11> Kog: didn't know there really was a freenode channel for everything ;)
<1> piera: you live anywhere near portland, OR?
<12> lol
<10> Kog: Nope i'm up in Canada
<1> piera: next time I go to Vancouver I'll make sure to bring left-overs. But enough, this is ##php not ##php-meals-on-wheels ;)
<8> Meals on wheels.
<12> You guys are making me hungry.
<10> thank god my other half knows how to cook or we'd be eating canned chef boyardee for the rest of our lives
<8> Man, I loved stealing those old people's food.
<1> TML: you're the reason I pay so much SS tax :(
<8> Kog: I doubt it, since they were all too senile to realize their food hadn't gotten there
<8> Just make sure to have the exact same conversation with them every day, and they'll never know what day it is
<13> are there any specific books people would recommend for an intermediate php user to help improve my skills
<8> !tell Jezek about MRE
<1> !tell kog about MRE
<10> !+seen newbienetwork
<9> i haven't seen 'newbienetwork', piera
<1> I thought that was what you were talking about... but why would you tell him about rations?
<1> Jezek: you should just start writing projects... that's the best way to get better
<8> Kog: Read the rest of it
<1> Jezek: choose something challanging
<14> !tell Cody about MRE
<1> TML: what, mastering regex is the key to being a great PHP scripter?
<14> !tell Cody` about MRE
<13> yeah but i dont know if im doing something completely the wrong way, or unorthodox way i guess. and if i am i want to learn how to do it the correct way before i get habits that are hard to break
<8> Kog: Who said anything about "being a great PHP scripter?"
<8> He said "improve my skills"
<8> regex is cross-discipline
<1> TML: I see, I guess I projected
<1> TML: it seems to me someone qualifying themselves as a php user asking to improve skills is asking about PHP implicitly
<8> Besides that, MRE is the second best technical book I've ever read, and I think every programmer should read it at least once.
<12> TML: That's a definite.
<1> TML: what's the first?
<8> Kog: K&R
<1> figured
<8> Kog: 3rd would be Paul Graham's ANSI Common Lisp. While probably the better book than the other two, it has less practical application in my daily work, so gets slated at #3
<1> I always thought Ravhi and Lapalme wrote a good data structures book heh
<13> but why dont i just learn more php and i would just learn all that stuff while learning php
<1> Jezek: because programming isn't about a particular language
<1> Jezek: it's about a way of thinking
<13> but i learn the regular expressions through coding php.. why wouldl i need a book
<8> Jezek: Because you DON'T learn the regular expressions through coding php. You learn poor approximations.
<13> ok
<1> Jezek: because some people take information from books better
<12> Jezek: You're the one who asked for suggestions. Why would you ask, and then ask for confirmation or justification of the response you receive?
<13> i was asking for clarification
<15> I'm using PHP to create an image on my page and I want the image background to be transparent, but it shows up white. Here is the source http://pastebin.com/719730 and my URL http://24.220.186.15/scripts/chalkboard.php
<1> Jezek: for some reason people always recommend PHP + MySQL - the 1200 page book that does projects and whatnot
<12> Kog: Which people would those be?
<1> Lateralus: some old professors
<1> Lateralus: in all fairness, they were "participatory design" freaks... if that gives you a qualification ;)
<13> just because someone says something doesnt mean its what i should do..if someone asks what should i do? and someone responds run into a wall should i not ask for confirmation or justification? im asking for an opinion but i want to make sure they understand what i want to learn and thats all
<12> Kog: I never really understood why someone would take the word of a "professor" over someone who actually works in a given field.
<12> Kog: That's always bothered me.
<16> hi channel. quick question: is php5 completely backwards compatible with php4? if i upgrade to php5, will my old code work as it did in php4?
<1> Lateralus: given that I worked in the field at the time... I told him to stuff it
<1> Lateralus: he also tried to make me buy his book, I told him to stuff that too
<17> the abstraction layer for the DB is a bit different I think
<17> so worth a google
<12> axolx: heh
<1> axolx: a lot of things changed... OO changed, XML stuff changed
<8> Lateralus: Why must they be exclusive?
<1> mysql is no longer built by default etc
<8> OO didn't change.
<8> It just had some sugar added.
<3> one_red_eye: is bg.png transparent?
<1> TML: sure it did... many people were accessing $self out of context
<8> itrebal: o.O *PAUL*
<1> TML: which is now illegal
<18> sorry :/
<16> Kog: yes i understand that, but does code need to be throughly updated?
<8> Kog: It was always illegal, it just wasn't enforced
<1> TML: illegal as in e_err


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