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<0> Nah, somewhere else.
<1> Julian|Work: ah so
<1> Julian|Work: they hiring?
<0> My company? Probably.
<2> where are they based?
<0> Cupertino, CA
<2> nm :P
<1> oh hell, no thanks
<3> hehe 5 mins from my place
<0> CrazyToon, you in Mountain View or something?
<3> what company julian?
<1> man, I can't even afford to live where I currently do
<2> why is nothing good in texas
<1> Wilik: you just answered your own question
<0> Yeah, living ****s here, heh.
<2> its texas? :P
<1> DING
<2> yea I know
<2> and to think I moved here under my own free will
<1> it's ok, only thing near me is Intel
<1> oh wait, Nike, OSDL, PSU, OHSU, OGI
<2> from california
<4> Julian|Work: Why did it partnred with MS? Too little money or something?
<1> but screw them
<5> Kog: Heh. Beaverton, eh?
<1> mattmcc: hillsboro
<2> we have alot of computer security firms here
<2> thats about it
<1> Wilik: move to Plano
<2> php programmers = rare
<2> and not needed
<0> Stormchaser, nah, to offer a MS-SQL compatible version that you can install with an MSI.
<2> everyone uses .net
<4> Wilik: Silicon Valley?
<6> hi, any tutorials on thumbnail generating i can reference from one of you guys?
<1> Julian|Work: screw MSSQL
<0> Stormchaser, but now everything thinks we're abandoning *nix
<2> Stormchaser, san antonio, texas
<4> Julian|Work: Scarry.
<4> Wilik: heh... Okay :)
<1> Julian|Work: what dbms you using at the moment?
<0> Stormchaser, because of a misrepresentation in that article. They said that we'll be releasing everything under the Ms-CL license.
<1> please don't say MySQL
<5> Kog: Well, see, Beaverton would be cheaper. Hillsboro pricing is a bit higher because of all those corporate campuses and the Max.
<0> Kog, MySQL/Oracle/PostgreSQL
<1> mattmcc: no, not really... I'm just poor
<7> Mr_X: Google
<7> nite
<1> Julian|Work: can you drop the MySQL support and tell the whiners to stop being stupid?
<2> Mr_X, you can try the imagemagick website
<1> Julian|Work: just for me? please?
<0> :(
<0> I'm a lowly code jock.
<0> But I could sabotage CVS.
<2> lol
<1> you don't even use SVN?
<1> for shame.
<8> my old school teaches java in their comp sci course, but I am having them consider PHP as well :) haha just cause I like it. When I took ajva there, all of our progreams were command line.. get input, output/write to file, and later it became applets. How is PHP at a pure command line input/output? Is it feasible?
<0> I think it's time for me to get burned at the stake.
<1> Kaitlyn: CLI...
<1> Julian|Work: hmm steak
<2> Kaitlyn, they still teach java in the base courses at my college in comp sci also
<8> Kaitlyn: cli?
<8> *kog: cli?
<2> which is weird because they do it for two semesters then switch to low level c
<8> whats cli?
<1> Kaitlyn: the PHP CLI
<1> Wilik: I learned Haskell, and Java for later on OO stuff
<2> and we never visit OOP again
<4> !+cli
<9> [CLI] Command Line Interface
<2> everything after the 2 entry level cl***es is all c/perl/shell
<2> I just think its funny ;)
<0> Haskell, ha. My buddy was coding an IRCd in that.
<2> I tried to get them to teach php
<2> but no one knows php
<2> none of the teachers do anyways
<10> can anyone here ***ist me with installing smarty on my server?
<2> the only advantage to knowing php in texas is that if you do find a company that needs a php programmer since there seems to be so few, you make 60k+ per year
<1> Julian|Work: Haskell is a good language to teach students
<1> Julian|Work: but because most people don't get the point, they bitch
<0> Kog, I'm sure it's fine, I just had no idea how the source code compiled into an ircd :]
<1> Julian|Work: the great truth of programming, of course, being that the language doesn't matter in the least
<1> Julian|Work: for compiling, you use GHC
<8> hmm this is greattt
<0> Kog, just a gateway, sure.
<2> if you dont know how to program at my college they make you learn fortran
<1> Julian|Work: for the IO you use Monads
<8> i see you do php <file> arguments... is it possible to like getch() and get input during execution?
<11> okay I am new to php, and I need to get info from 2 differnt tables how would I do that
<11> http://pastebin.com/556869
<1> Julian|Work: "just a gateway?"
<0> Kog: gateway is the wrong word, but sure. High-level languages are layers on top of what they'll eventually be compiled into.
<1> Julian|Work: what are you going on about...?
<1> Julian|Work: GHC is the Glasgow Haskell Compiler
<0> It's up to the programmer to evaluate the pros/cons, usually efficiency/speed of development.
<0> Ah
<1> oh... you're talking about my schpiel on great truths
<0> I have a buddy going to uni there.
<0> Kog: yeah
<1> Julian|Work: the key to programming is programming ;)
<1> (and whiteboards)
<2> so true ;)
<2> i've seen alot of people fail the low level programming cl***es because they just dont get it
<12> Kaitlyn: $stdin = fopen( 'php://stdin', 'r' ); $c = fread( $stdin, 1 );
<1> Wilik: low level stuff is rarely interesting to me
<1> Wilik: but I have some hardware work I'm going to eventually do
<1> Wilik: one involves a beautiful LCD, the other some crypto
<2> nice
<2> I was doing some wireless stuff over the summer
<2> that was fun
<2> taking AODV and making it less prone to dos attacks
<13> hi, I'm having a dual-setting problem-- I can manage to set php and perl to work individually for homes but not together (eg: .pl and .php files for apache using mod_perl and php for linux)
<1> beetlepun: might want to ask apache channels
<2> wouldnt that be an #apache question?
<1> Wilik: AODV?
<2> its a wireless protocol
<1> Army of Darkness: Verizon?
<13> Wilik, maybe
<1> gotcha
<2> for ad-hoc networks
<1> noooo... file_put_contents doesn't exist
<8> i am trying to run PHP from the command line, and any warnings and everything are output with HTML.. like <b>Warning</b> ... anyway to get around this?
<2> I dont believe so
<1> Kaitlyn: doesn't seem to be... it wants to render errors as HTML
<2> maybe a custom error routine
<1> Kaitlyn: leads to some REALLY odd issues when you're working with headers
<1> (I once fed mac formatted files into the debian box in the back office)
<8> Kog: i see :(
<8> well that would be annoying for people to debug who don't really know
<8> having to sift through the html :S
<1> you could write a script that strips html
<1> or uses color codes or something
<1> someone, somewhere must have already thought of it
<2> Kaitlyn, try this: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.set-error-handler.php
<1> Wilik: I think a bash script might be more purdy
<2> probably
<8> Wilik: oh, true! obviously... haha thanks!
<8> that SHOULD work, ya..
<13> Kaitlyn: php-cgi ?
<2> but Kaitlyn likes my idea better :P
<8> oh doh
<8> there was a CLI directory on windows
<8> and this has one that seemed to not produce HTMLe error
<8> thats weird i suppose!
<1> BASH PURDY
<2> I do like bash, I agree
<14> How do I found out which rows have been effected by an SQL INSERT query?
<2> mysql_affected_rows(); or something along those lines
<15> is there a way to put the 'cursor' to an html <input type="text">, as in I want the user to be able to type as soon as they enter the page
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