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<0> Kog: most people overlook the most obvious of things
<1> Kog: 99% of people are lazy?
<2> joh: greater than that
<3> Hmm you're right.... it's only blank when I do die(), it prints with echo. very weird
<0> die v exit ?
<4> Kog: not all of them are lazy... Big percentage of that are just plain ol' stupid.
<2> haha
<1> Stormchaser: probably :P
<4> alphablue: die is just an alias of exit
<2> I'm trying to be nice
<5> Storm/Kog: maybe they are new to programming in general and don't know meaning of manual :P
<6> Stormchaser, although in the manual, it says it's an "equivalent" to exit(), not an alias, like most others say.
<6> I wonder if they're both implemented.
<4> Julian|Work: no, it;s an alias.
<6> Stormchaser, so the curiosity lies in the wording of the manual.
<6> Why "equivalent" when it's called an "alias" everywhere else?



<2> inconsistency in documentation! BURN THE WITCHES
<7> CT: error_reporting(E_ALL) and timelimit = 20
<2> CT: or some that aren't n ew to programming or the ideas of manuals, and are just plain stupid ;)
<4> hum
<6> I wouldn't even delve into those depths, but I happen to think PHP has the best docs, so I'd like to help keep it that way.
<2> CT: I work with people like that
<2> Julian|Work: can we still burn witches?
<2> please?
<6> Stormchaser, the other difference is that it's a language construct, not a function.
<6> So maybe that's where "equivalent" comes in.
<1> Aha!
<0> i thought exit did things differently than die
<1> Our own channel operator, a witch! Careful with this one, Kog...
<4> nope
<0> die is die.. i thought exit could return exit codes
<0> hmm
<2> joh: I sincerely doubt Stormchaser is a witch
<4> Kog: Why so?
<0> if he says he is.. he is
<8> Hi
<2> alphablue: I disagree
<0> k
<2> alphablue: I'm saying I'm master of the mint, that doesn't make me the master of the mint
<1> Kog: He was being tossed around, by them witchburners...
<2> joh: yes, well known secret that puritans NEVER make mistakes ;)
<0> Kog: to you you are.. doesn't mean everyone else agrees with you
<1> Kog: Exactly!
<2> alphablue: so then we come to question the nature of identity
<0> and that's my queue to ceasetoexist
<9> can i set up SMARTY in my public_html directory (i dont have telnet access to the server)
<2> heh
<2> that'd be cue ;)
<0> bah. i've been in usa for 15 yrs
<2> Stormchaser: because I've met very few real witches, and I travel some "occult" circles
<0> sorry
<2> alphablue: british much?
<6> alphablue, from where?
<0> kog: indian, so yea
<2> ah
<0> spoke the queens english first
<2> so uh, they outsourced you to the US? ;)
<0> yep
<2> right on
<1> Kog: But you *have* met some? I bet you're just scared to face the facts because tou fear you'll get a ban ;)
<2> well, if you're ever in OR and want to reminisce on the stupidity of bosses
<0> now i complain with all the other americans about them damn indians
<2> joh: I've met a couple that seemed to be witches, yes
<1> s/tou/tou/
<2> joh: as opposed to the large cadre of teenagers that watched "The Craft"
<1> Kog: So did you test them?
<0> Kog; i've never been to OR would love to visit someday
<2> I'm not a witch, I wouldn't know
<2> alphablue: ah, right on
<2> alphablue: where you at?
<0> tex***
<2> oh, sorry to hear it
<6> lol
<0> san antonio, actually i love it :)



<1> Kog: So you didn't throw them off a cliff to see if they would fly?
<4> Kog: So by your oppinion witches can't be coders and / or cartoonists?
<2> joh: no, nor drown them, nor light them on fire
<2> Stormchaser: I never said any such thing
<2> Stormchaser: I'm just in doubt of people that claim to be things
<0> it's winter and 80 degrees .. i'm sitting on my porch with a cool breeze and a wireless laptop
<0> kog: what is a real witch ?
<2> alphablue: that I can't answer, but I can answer what a real witch isn't heh
<0> or how does a witch .. prove herself ...
<0> oh
<2> alphablue: I'm not a wtich expert... I just met a lot of dumb***es that watched "The Craft"
<0> so what's not a real witch ?
<2> alphablue: so I doubt anyone claiming to be a wtich
<0> what's "the craft" ? tv show with those 3 hot chicks ?
<2> movie
<0> alyssa milano...
<0> she could tell me she's mother teresa
<0> hmm, never seen it. so it's like all those new historians after they read da vinci code ?
<4> Kog: Let's try it this way: http://www.mojstreznik.com/~stormh/
<2> Stormchaser: I'm not saying you're not a witch
<2> Stormchaser: I'm saying I doubt you are one
<2> apparently whomever owns that site (presumably you) is a Wikkan of some variety
<0> i thought it was wiccan
<4> haha :)
<2> alphablue: I use WikkaWiki
<2> alphablue: I always spell it Wikka
<2> but yeah... I guess it's wiccan
<2> and as I clearly demonstrated above, I'm no expert in the occult... I just doubt people claiming to be things
<2> you could tell me you were a programmer, and I'd doubt it
<2> doesn't make it less "truthful" or diminish the "Truthiness" of the situation
<1> Kog: If I told you I were a human being, would you doubt it? ;)
<2> yes
<2> I probably am
<2> I certanily seem to be
<1> Kog: Interesting, then I'd have to be... a machine? An animal?
<10> This reminds of the turing test...
<2> oh sorry, I thought you said you were
<0> are you alive..
<2> joh: as for you... you appear to be huminid after a f ashion
<2> joh: but yes, you're probably an animal (as you claim to be human, and humans are animals)
<2> (some more than others)
<2> (and none of this has a damn thing to do with PHP)
<1> Kog: (ofcourse not, hence ##php)
<2> joh: ah, but didn't you get the memo? this channel is about PHP
<2> joh: don't you know that's what the everstupid universal meaning of ## is?
<2> I thought ever language used that convention...
<6> The views expressed in this channel do not necessarily reflect the views of Zend Inc. or its sponsors.
<10> ## is for about channels... Which means that it's about pretty much everything but the name, until someone asks a question.
<11> Julian|Work: You mean Oracle. ;)
<1> Kog: You truly are a serious person, aren't you ;)
<1> mattmcc: haha
<6> mattmcc: ha
<2> FreeOne3000: thanks, I wasn't aware of that... despite owning a channel which is an "about" channel
<1> So are the rumors true? :P
<12> hi, any tutorials on thumbnail generating i can reference from one of you guys?
<2> FreeOne3000: no. no, wait, I was aware
<4> !+about
<6> mattmcc: I'm a little upset-- a lot of people are upset at my company for partnering with Microsoft
<6> mattmcc: but CNet put out an article that really misstated what was going on
<4> what is it?
<4> !+move
<13> [Channel Move] We moved from #php to ##php in order to comply with http://www.freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming You can see our "about" group here: http://freenode.net/about_groups.shtml
<14> //server -m irc.chatw.net #chatw
<6> kenitra = pwned
<14> //server -m irc.chatw.net #chatw
<2> Stormchaser: to the ban cave
<6> Stormchaser: I'll PM you
<15> *rolls eyes*
<2> Julian|Work: you work for zend?
<4> Grrr
<6> Nah, somewhere else.


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