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<0> jals: no
<1> sure Im on AIX normally, shell == ksh, linux == bash and typically freebsd is sh .. hence I ask which os. I wanted to try it
<0> peachy_: to be safe just do a 'ls *' on a large directory, i can copy and paste my output on my /tmp if you want
<2> this is STRANGE....HRMMM....
<2> AHA!
<2> the evil cashdollar sign was at work here...
<0> Fushuing: i dont know when I get $ it usually is a good thing for me
<2> i used it in my auto-magicially character-numerbo-mator
<0> woah, that flew over my head
<2> HRMMM....
<2> it seems i cannot use special characters too for some reason in the encryption process...
<3> i am looking for a good IDE that works on mac os x and preferably is not java
<0> Fushuing: you mean $ is interupting your process?
<2> _hp_: anything that accepts input and can save it as a file
<2> zircu: yesssh....and other things
<0> _hp_: i've heard bbedit is rather nice



<3> i've used bbedit, but i am looking for something that will let me manage projects and when i start tpying a function name to give me options and arguments that go into each
<2> what the hell, nothing is interupting the encryption process, yet it keeps getting interupted :@
<0> Fushuing: you are using a homegrone encryption?
<2> zircu: kind of...
<2> ah, now it works!
<2> some kind of idiotic limitation thingy was screwing everything up
<4> How do I do ($variable1 + $variable2 + if it is defined $variable3)
<0> Fushuing: why not use a current encryption system that is known to work?
<0> mwright1night: huh?
<4> if it is defined was english language
<2> WHAT are the odds of <?php occuring in my completely random character generator?
<2> 1:1
<5> it depends, if you include < and ?
<6> little function that returns variable length concatenated md5 hashes - http://pastebin.com/598620
<2> i didn't include < and ?
<5> then the odds of impact is 0
<5> s/is/are
<2> well, it seems to appear all the time -_-
<2> oh well, at least it works now :D
<0> Fushuing: for now
<2> :P
<2> that is something what always seems to occur
<2> i just install the script, and 5 days later it's broken
<0> why not use something that already is expected to work 99.9999999% of the time?
<2> it was >.>
<0> Fushuing: how many people use it?
<7> IF parent cl*** doesn't have __construct(), what does parent::__construct() call? will it call parent's parent cl*** __construct() ?
<0> zimnyx: yes
<2> zircu: a lot of people
<2> i am talking about vBulletin here :P
<7> zircu: thanks
<2> 5 days in use, it breaks
<8> is there a real widget library for php?
<0> cjaymes: define: real
<8> zircu, complete, not funky
<8> example: gtk
<9> like phpgtk?
<8> but for text/html
<9> so you want a html library?
<8> partly
<9> what do you want then?
<9> stop using buzzwords.
<9> We dont have a xml'd rail'd soap dispensing java beans widget factory
<2> try Python
<8> lol
<0> just use the word AJAX, it is the top buzzword of the day :)
<9> If you wanted gtk for php.. i suggest phpgtk.
<10> cjaymes, give Prado a try
<0> hmm.. python may not be a bad idea, dont blame me if you can't get your tabs set correctly though
<8> I want a library that has objects that can generate html that a user can respond with
<8> and then the library can use the same objects to parse the user information
<11>'s
<9> cjaymes: try $_REQUEST
<10> cjaymes, it's a framework though, but from the very tiny idea I have about it, it's somehow event-driven and widgets plays an important rule (may be it's widget centered even)
<0> i wonder how <input> isn't a widget
<8> alienbrain, thanks, its one of the few that I haven't looked at already
<8> zircu, it is, but it isn't the only kind; how about menus, calendars, etc.
<9> buzzwords make my balls itch
<9> cjaymes: jesus guy..
<12> I'm trying to figure out how to store an array in a MySQL row and then parse the array when I return it from the db... Anyone know of a decent tutorial or can point me in a direction?



<0> myconid: forgive me if I dont scratch them for you
<9> FroMaster: serialize it?
<12> myconid: not sure what that means :)
<8> I just got to thinking; why aren't we (web devs) doing ui development the same way as other ui devs
<9> FroMaster_: serializing is converting an array to a string..
<0> cjaymes: it is the web, is how i describe it make an interface that works with it
<9> http://us3.php.net/serialize
<12> how can I then convert it back to an array?
<9> unserialize it <g>
<9> FroMaster: ever play with sessions?
<12> myconid: nope :(
<13> hi ppl :)
<13> i'm looking for a newbi oriented GD documentation
<2> ..AHA!
<2> >.>
<9> !+ aolbonics
<13> does anybody got something like that in his bookmarks
<9> php.net has good documentation
<8> newbi...never mind
<13> php.net only lists alla functions ...
<0> roger21: google is my bookmark
<14> GD... graphic design, god damned, greatly degenerate.....
<0> roger21: googe: php gd (tutorial|guide|zend)
<0> google*
<13> ok ok ...
<0> mikere: unfair... it is the only tool availble at the time
<15> roger21: php manual is your swife army knife :)
<2> except less dangerous >.>
<16> Hey i need alittle help im trying to grab data from a rss feed and store it in array im currently on php4 so i cant use simpleXML any suggestions?
<0> mikere: i'd like to see a common tool provided that is more powerfull
<9> koncept: install php5 :)
<17> roger21: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-objorient/ <-- i just used this. twas superb
<2> i will pay 500$ to the one who can bring me a compiled version of the latest PHP with SSL support
<2> for win32 platforms :)
<0> Fushuing: you had me till you said win32
<16> even tho its my dedicated server i share it with clients and they all have stuff that can only use php4
<9> Fushuing: if you paypal me half first.
<17> Fushuing: sure, leave the money in a brown paper bag at the end of your street in half an hour. come ... alone
<13> dools, thx ^_^
<16> anybody....have a solution
<0> funny what people will do for 4 hours of work
<9> zircu: what takes 4 hours?
<9> zircu: I have the latest apache/php already compiled for win32 ia32 and ia64 :)
<9> In a .msi package
<0> ok.. let me re phrase that.. funny how people will work for an evil system :)
<0> myconid: have you considered using your systems as a beta testing system?
<9> zircu: wha?
<16> i repeat i need a little bit of help. Im trying to grab data from a RSS feed and store it in array. Im currently using PHP4 so i can't use SimpleXML any suggestions?
<0> myconid: making sure php works on those system
<9> zircu:I have the MSI deployed to 35 developers..
<9> zircu: php/mysql/apache/zend studio
<0> koncept: there are several solutions for rss feeds, have you tried google?
<16> yes
<9> pick a xml library, or write your own.
<16> this is the last place i look
<2> oh my god...someone doesn't knows what an FTP is o.o
<9> Fushuing: ... with good reason.
<5> which is...?
<9> FTP shouldnt be around anymore.
<9> it should live in the cave with telnet.
<5> and WHY?
<9> and finger
<18> myconid um telnet is still very very usefull
<5> what replaces FTP?
<9> Stormchaser: sftp/scp
<2> yeh, what actually replaces FTP?
<9> rioter: how so?
<9> Stormchaser/Fushing: sftp/scp
<9> or ftp w/ tls
<9> but nothing supports taht
<9> its like telnet w/ kerberos


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