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<0> perhaps i went back in time, invested in apple and because of my investment, it turns out that apple becomes a bigger, more established company than microsoft. but, it was microsoft who invented the time machine...
<1> subsonic: Then don't worry about the "windows service" part. set up your install on the device, have it use relative paths for everything so that all the pieces talk to themselves on the fileysstem, and start it from the command prompt when you plug it in.
<2> caffinated: Nope. One universal timeline.
<3> Ahroun: then your theory will never work.
<2> caff: why?
<3> i've already explained it, twice.
<0> then again, i would never board a time machine with a microsoft logo
<4> pyxl: okay, I'll try that. So the apps (php, mysql, apache) have their own internal paths?
<2> caff: It's completely self consistant for both individual particle world lines and the universal time line.
<5> how do you get a random $key and $value from an ***ociative array?
<3> Ahroun: sounds like you've read one too many sci-fi novels.
<2> caff: You're ultimately saying "Oh, but I'll change my mind..." You can't. It's set in stone, it was set in stone from the moment of the big bang.
<0> is there a php function that creates a time vortex that i can use to proove or disproove Ahroun's theory?
<1> subsonic: when starting it from the command line, just do the normal command-line switches to tell the parts where their config files are and where you want logging to be done to (and so on), adn just go from there.
<3> Ahroun: following that, it's not possible for you to change history anyway.
<0> Ahroun: ah yes, the big bang "knew" what i would do as a biological organism... haha
<1> subsonic: Hell, if you're feeling really frisky, put all that in a winders shell script and just run the shell script to start it up.
<4> ooh
<6> b1n0ry: It's part of the psychic extension. I think it's due with PHP6.
<3> Ahroun: what you're saying is that what is, is. so if what is, is, then you can't make it something else.
<2> caffinated: Correct. I can only PARTICIPATE in it. But history will remain as I know it because my participation is part of it coming to be that way.
<0> TML: cool
<7> TML: didn't saw it on PHP6 schedule... I think they're talks for PHP7 about that...
<0> TML: i'm anxious to go back to the big bang and squash the Ahroun molecules.
<6> Stormchaser: It slipped already?
<3> Ahroun: according to your ideas though, your participation is predetermined, and as such, not subject to your own whims.
<7> TML: I think so.
<2> caffinated: Correct.
<0> "it's your destiny" "do you believe in fate?" lol
<4> pyxl: thanks
<2> caffinated: I do not believe free will actually exists. I see no scientific law that allows it (one that might be construed into a possibility, but... only vaguely.)
<1> b1n0ry: Not for you: I already manipulated them, it's predestined. :)
<1> subsonic: 'welcome
<3> My thought on it is, our knowledge of particle theory and quantum mechanics is not yet sufficiently advanced to explain anything along those lines.
<8> Is it possible to check whether a parameter contains a given type? Example: if (typeOf($myCl***) === MyCl***)
<7> *wham*! "Ow! What did you do that for?!?" "It was your destiny" "oh..."
<0> Ahroun: there are no scientific "laws" that offer anything you've described in any of this conversation. it's all theory which is far from law.
<2> b1n0ry: No, it's conjecture. Theory and law are equivalent, except for age, in scientific terminology.
<0> Stormchaser: it's his destiny to donate his annual salary to me via PayPal
<0> Ahroun: do you realize that that's one of the most absurd ***ertions that i've heard in a long time? my day is complete, lol
<1> what?
<1> theory and law are not equivalent.
<0> he said that "theory and law are equivalent" lol
<1> argh. I call troll!
<3> b1n0ry: it's what happens when people engage in theory on subjects to which they have no real foundation.
<1> TROOOOOLL!!!
<7> b1n0ry: no, my destiny was to scratch my nose... 3 times... But I didn't do it >:)
<7> pyxl: *blink*
<6> b1n0ry: No, he's right. From the perspective of a Scientist, "theory" is something supported by law, rather than in opposition to it.
<0> theory = unproven based hypothesis with some experimentation to support its plausability (and that's my brain, not a dictionary definition). law = proven beyond scientific doubt.
<2> b1n0ry: What? That, in scientific language, a 'theory' and a 'law' are roughly equivalent? So because it's the 'theory of gravity', it isn't known to exist? that 'theory of evolution' means it has no m***ive body of supporting evidence?
<1> Stormchaser: Just being a goofball in response to the ongoing goofballery in the channel.
<6> b1n0ry: Theory means something different when you're talking about the "pure science" branches.
<0> TML: "theory" is something accepted to be true by the scientific community despite the lack of proof.
<2> no, a theory is a collection of tested hypotheses that explain large fields.
<3> theory = idea of how things should be which happen to fit currently known laws.
<0> Ahroun: and "tested" does NOT equal "proven"
<6> "In science, a theory is an interconnected set of abstract (and thus often mathematical) models of the world (or some portion of it) whose predictions either have been tested through experiment, or have been verified through empirical observation."
<7> pyxl: Please don't do that... One is goofing around, and another is being annoying. You were the later.
<3> however, because a theory happens to fit doesn't mean it's fact. i think this is the point people are trying to arrive at.
<9> and the latter too
<1> Stormchaser: whups, couldn't tell the difference.
<0> caffinated: exactly. Ahroun's "big bang" is one such example. there are many theories that fit the model, and some better even than the "big bang" yet that is the accepted norm.
<10> hey
<2> like, 'theory of evolution' is a conglomerate of hypotheses that have been tested and support the current understanding of evolution. At one point, there was a 'law of gravity'. It's no longer called that because we found out we may never actually know the exact mathematical way things work -- or even if they follow mathematics.
<10> i'm trying to install gojoingo, and keep getting weird messages
<0> like evolution = crap science
<10> like this:
<0> big bang = crap science
<10> [12-Apr-2006 14:22:12] PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes ex
<10> hausted (tried to allocate 14592 bytes) in /var/www/html/gojoingo/modules/legacy
<10> .module on line 154
<0> anhoun = crap science
<1> anyways, one set of folks gets to blather, other folks get crap for blathering...
<0> theory = experimented guess
<0> that's all i have to say and it's after 5:00
<2> b1n0ry: Well then, okay. Humor us and define a 'law' then.
<3> b1n0ry: lies! your theory of the current time is hereby rejected!
<10> any non-big bang ideas regarding PHP Fatal errors of allowed memory size?
<7> no big bang. Just small *poof*
<0> "law" would be something that has been proven using variable equation evaluated to a known true expression. something that is proven to work in all situations not just in example situations.
<2> In the scientific method, you cannot prove anything. Only disprove. You can never test a hypothesis in every possible situation so you cannot prove it. But one counter-example is sufficient to prove it is wrong.
<6> nym: Your PHP exceeded the allowed memory size
<10> TML: do i have to increase the size?
<1> nym: memory_limit in php.ini
<10> pyxl: thanks!
<10> TML: thanks too
<0> Ahroun: interesting how many examples counter the big bang, yet it is accepted true.
<2> b1n0ry: Only popularly. Cosmology has moved on.
<6> nym: Yes, or use less memory
<11> is there a more efficient way to do this? http://pastebin.com/656465
<11> very ugly :D
<0> at any rate, it's after 5:00 and the wife will be upset if i don't go home :)
<10> TML: it's not my program
<6> nym: Doesn't mean you can't fix it
<2> It's after my time to get home as well actually. *bows* TML, always pleased to meet a fellow scientist. See ya' next time I'm on channel.
<12> Ahroun MAD SCIENTIST maybe =)
<6> Jax: I'd probably use http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=6513
<13> hindog, I have this code http://pastebin.com/656473 I want to parse the string right there, but theres something i missing
<12> Speaking of JMC...
<6> Jax: Or some variation thereof
<14> SCIENCE!
<6> Jymmm: Valid point
<6> When was the last time anyone saw him?
<7> TML: lol
<12> Stormchaser 459 ppl
<13> duh! hi all, I have this code http://pastebin.com/656473 I want to parse the string right there, but theres something i missing
<12> TML couple weeks ago
<7> Jymmm: could be >:)
<11> TML checking, thanks.
<2> Jymmm: It's usually the mad scientists who have their nomenclature correct. :) They're the only ones who care enough to use scientific jargon with the requisite precision. Anyways. I'm out ya'll.
<7> I'm in.
<6> Hirsulhim: You chose the wrong modifier. Please go back and read the modifier page.
<13> what I want to parse is all the content between { and }
<6> Hirsulhim: Read the actual *descriptions* of the modifiers this time
<11> yeah that's ok, thanks TML
<11> did you see evilness bug? 36949
<13> ok TML, thanks
<6> Hirsulhim: And then remember that \s doesn't match \n
<7> caffinated: That was one of the 459 people :)
<3> heh
<8> Is there some way I can insert the output from dirname() and a string into a constant? const MENU_PATH = dirname(__FILE__) . "/../menu.xml"; // <== Dosn't work
<7> !+doesn't work
<15> Look buddy, doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. Finally, showing us the code is helpful (after you've explained your problem). /msg php-bot pastebin for more information
<8> I get this error: Parse error: parse error, unexpected '(', expecting ',' or ';' in /var/www/public/cms/base/library/DataSource.cl***.php on line 21
<6> Jemt: "The value must be a constant expression, not (for example) a variable, a cl*** member, result of a mathematical operation or a function call."
<7> Jemt: Youre maybe thinking 'define'?
<8> TML: Ah, IC. I just though it was ***igned on runtime and could be altered afterwards.
<8> Stormchaser: Don't think so. Well, I'll change it into an ordinary variable :)
<6> Jemt: That's from php.net/oop5.constants
<7> Jemt: What integrated circuit?
<8> Stormchaser: ?
<6> Jemt: Note that value of variables declared in the "Attribute" section of a cl*** must be constant expression as well
<7> 'IC' in my vocabulary means integrated circuit, so what abot it?
<7> *about
<16> IC = I see
<8> TML: Yes, just found out. Bugger
<8> Yes, I see :)
<3> wispy: IC = Integrated Circut
<7> wispy: I don't recognise the language, sorry...
<8> or you don't want to ;)
<7> !tell Jemt about typing english
<6> It's not an acceptable mode of speech in ##PHP, is Stormchaser's point
<7> :)
<16> so say that then? :)
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