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<0> Ahroun: it is.
<1> I know I cannot permanently fix it - I'm not root - but is there anyway to disable it from the cli
<2> Jymmm: Darn. I'll try to remind you later then.
<3> Ahroun: I don't know where you got the impression that I'm big on OOP, though. Lisp remains my favorite langauge to this day.
<2> TML: I like Lisp myself, though I don't have nearly the opportunities to use it.
<3> XML...well, that's different. I spent too many man-hours in my first years with computers doing "manual EDI" to not like XML.
<2> EDI?
<3> Electronic Data Interchange.
<3> Take data in format X and put it into format Y
<4> dampjam: that's a malconfigured server, take it to the admin
<2> TML: Ahhhh. 'k.
<3> XML was created by and for the EDI people.
<3> It just so happens that everyone else liked it, too.
<5> TML: I do that all the time, though it's xml -> xml. only, the source XML is usually screwed up.
<3> caffinated: :)
<3> caffinated: It wasn't a tenth as fun before XML was widespread
<6> Anyone know of a "php file gateway"? Something (very simple) that intranet users can upload a file to and have it give a link that they can e-mail (or have it e-mail for them) to download said file? I checked sourceforge, but couldn't find anything. I've seen scripts like this before... but I can't seem to find any now.
<2> TML: *nods* If everyone used standard interfaces, XML would be unnecessary. Would you agree with that statement? (not the feasibility of it -- it'd be impossible to do, I Know.)
<0> Ahroun: You draw a 8" diam circle. (for explanation purposes...) without altering the size of the comp***, place the point at 12 O'clock and draw an arc. Move the point of the comp*** to one of the points of the arc you just made, and create another arc. Repeat till all the points intersect two arcs.
<3> Ahroun: Sure
<3> Ahroun: But it wasn't practical to try and arrive at that stage, so XML is a nice stopgap
<2> TML: That's why I dislike XML. It gives programmers an excuse to be lazy and not standard driven. :)
<5> TML: heh, i can imagine. all this stuff revolves around XSL transformations, which can be it's own barrel of laughs when the guy providing the original xml to be transformed is clueless. advertising feed providers, for the record, **** ***.
<3> Ahroun: Programmers aren't the problem
<2> TML: Though, a good collection of doctypes can be as good as standard interfaces.
<3> Ahroun: At least, in my experience with EDI, it hasn't been the programmers that are the problem. It's the PHBs, and XML was a good way to meet them halfway.
<2> TML: PHB?
<3> Pointy Haired Boss
<2> *LAUGHS*
<2> I should have guessed that one. :P
<2> And PFY's. I love PFY.
<4> i have 2 pfy's
<2> I *AM* the PFY here... and I'm a threat to the other two coders because our boss wants to start pushing towards open source and they've gone on record as refusing to work under an open source/freeware/linux environment.
<3> Why would you do something like that?
<7> wtf, I installed php5.0-session, and phpinfo makes it look like it isn't installed, and I can't call the session functions. any idears?
<8> could someone tell me the functions that are used to recieve email from a php script?
<2> Now that the boss has people in place with the skills he needs ... those two are quickly looking more and more obsolete.
<9> hahaha
<4> Menthol: php.net/imap
<10> Ahroun, what's their problem with f/oss?
<11> I am trying to understand some code from a wiki
<3> Shane_N: What sort of insane distro ships the session module as a dynamic link?
<12> anyone using javascript with quickform and smarty?
<2> Julian: They were born and raised Windows, and Visual C++ and XML and Access. So any move away from any of those technologies is offensive to them.
<11> $ins_fields["data"][$i]["value"] = '';
<13> TML: *BSD and RH.
<3> That's nuts
<14> I have a problem, system date is diferent from date on php, why's that?
<11> would this code reset that value to zero?
<15> glaucontech: you need to add some more unrelated technologies to that question.
<16> Shane_N, restart apache? add the extension to your config?
<3> Ahroun: They can't be very old at all if they were "raised XML"
<7> TML: Debian I guess
<13> and, IIRC, SuSE does that, too...
<3> Shane_N: No.
<13> Shane_N: You're wrong... Deb doesn't do that.
<3> Shane_N: Try again
<2> TML: Well, more the Visual C++/Windows. But because M$ embraced XML, they did too.
<7> apt-get install php5.0-session = what?
<12> considering javascript, smarty and quickform all can make up a web page i'd say they are related
<3> Shane_N: apt can run on many Oses
<3> s/ses/Ses/
<3> Shane_N: I'd guess RH, though
<15> glaucontech: in a way, yes. do you have a PHP question?
<11> $ins_fields["data"][$i]["value"] = '';
<2> TML: My boss got his degree in the 70's in comp sci, so he agrees with me on a lot of issues, including the value of tried-and-true solutions and squeezing every bit of efficiency out of code you can.
<13> I don't recognise php5.0-session part, tho.
<11> can anybody tell me what this does?
<4> php5.0-session is a debian package
<15> glaucontech: to continue your analogy, though, someone who makes tires ought to know how an engine works.
<11> I want to know whether it is resetting the value of that variable to NULL
<13> storm@storm:~$ apt-cache search php5.0-session
<13> storm@storm:~$
<4> lorfds: not null, but empty
<13> So there.
<15> lorfds: check if it === NULL
<0> !CryWolf++
<15> lorfds: or var_dump() it afterwards.
<4> Shane_N: did you check the /etc/php/ dir for the modules?
<3> lorfds: What about it?
<11> CryWolf -- I am more asking about the code
<12> pear's quickform adds an internal id param to elements but if i want to use javascript to say hide/show an element in the form i need the id
<15> lorfds: I am answering about the code.
<7> ||cw, that's the odd part. only shows openssl, sybase, and wddx in the conf.d folder
<0> !+g10
<17> Guideline #10) We don't support xyz script. We help you *write* PHP, not recommend or download and install/hack/modify/adapt/use pre-written scripts
<7> ||cw, php.ini shows all the session directives though
<4> CryWolf: actualy, that would be more like: someone who installs tires should know how to grow rubber trees
<11> does setting something = '' effectively set it to NULL
<13> no
<11> or just echo whatever it currently holds as values
<13> '' !== null
<15> lorfds: or what??
<4> Shane_N: the php5 apache2 php.ini? remeber debian has 4 php.ini's
<4> or more
<11> $ins_fields["data"][$i]["value"] = '';
<11> that code
<18> hmmm, my login isn't really happening: http://nik.pastebin.com/654291
<13> $var == null or unset($var) == null WITH exception.
<7> ||cw, wow, never knew that. the apache php.ini, yes
<3> lorfds: It sets an array key to the value ''
<11> what does is set $ins_fields equal to
<13> I ment notice
<11> ok
<11> that is what i was wondering
<3> ...
<11> thanks TML
<0> lorfds thick an empty bucket. It exists, it's just empty
<0> lorfds think an empty bucket. It exists, it's just empty
<15> lorfds: you can always check the type and value of a variable with var_dump(). It helps you answer your own quetions.
<19> HEY, anyone got a good cl*** for image uploading, resizing and handling?
<15> questions, even.
<13> maxer: google does.
<19> i looked
<0> maxer sure, $50
<11> i know CryWolf -- but just because vardump show it as empty doesnt mean that all variables will end in this result
<19> free///open source?
<4> Shane_N: yeah, /etc/php[4|5]/[apache|apache2|cli|cgi], so up to 8 ini files
<11> there is a lot of different data that gets p***ed through this statment
<13> maxer: You looked where? On google? Fat chance.
<0> maxer cheap bastard!
<19> yeah
<15> lorfds: umm...var_dump shows you *exactly* what it is. You're not going to get different results by setting different variables to ''
<7> maxer: check out phpcl***es.org
<20> $this->validName() or return false; isnt this possible? or am I just not writing it correctly?
<11> CryWolf -- my point is that Ins_fields will have different values depending on the data
<15> Every time you set a variable to '', it will be '', without fail.
<4> maxer: gallery.sf.net probably has a collection
<13> hm... phpcl***es os crap.
<19> i just thought you guys might have a suggestion
<11> therefore var_dump will only show a conditional result
<13> s/os/is
<15> lorfds: you were asking a very specific question, which had nothing to do with what you're saying now.
<11> perhaps i was unclear - but that is what i was asking
<15> you were clear until you muddied the waters for yourself.
<13> maxer: I *DID* gave you a suggestion. Google.
<11> anyway -- no point in arguing -- you guys answered my question
<7> maxer: Like I said, go to phpcl***es.org
<3> Shane_N: Manuel?
<3> Is that you?
<3> Thought you could fool me, didn't you?
<7> TML: What?
<7> TML: MrP is the only other name I have gone by
<3> Shane_N: Nothing. A very old, very private joke.
<13> lol
<3> See? Stormchaser got it.
<19> phpcl***es? what a load of dung
<13> :)
<7> I'm not cool
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