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<0> You only need to be root to make install
<1> no not ./configure
<1> configuring all the stuff in /etc :P
<0> :P
<0> sudo is life :)
<1> I like looking through and twidding with config files... helps make my poor brain understand a little better
<1> meh
<1> I always just did sudo -i on ubuntu :P
<0> sudo -s?
<1> err
<1> yeah
<1> if that's for a shell
<1> heh
<0> Apparently -i does it too
<1> it's been a couple months
<0> I just got used to using sudo instead.
<0> Even when I was on Debian, I never stayed logged in as root.
<1> each their own
<0> Probably :)
<2> i'm in root right now doing an emerge in gentoo
<1> oh i'm not logged in as.. well... su'ed.. it's all ssh anyway :P
<0> Ubuntu's super user is the first account created.
<0> :)
<1> man
<0> Anyway, if your locate fails, make sure you have the apache2-common package. I'm ***uming you used Debian's packages to install Apache2
<1> I don't know what it is but I've been getting speeds sub 100kBps all day on the apt-gets
<1> yeah and i just did
<0> I got Korean repositories, and seeing that I live in Korea :)
<1> it's not my connection
<2> god thats slow
<1> hehe
<1> yeah it is
<1> I'm not sure wth is up
<0> I remember downloading Ragnarok Online at 2mb/s
<0> those were the days... :(
<2> i download at 1-10mbs
<1> my signal is spot on, .. it's probably the ****ing vonage router
<0> jiggy|sludge: Cool?
<0> :)
<2> are we talking lan or wan? :P
<2> lol
<0> jiggy|sludge: wan
<1> once I get all this stuff up, i really need to get ipmasqing set back up again
<2> my isp is ****, but its the only worthy one in canada, 7 mbit
<0> 600-900kb/s remotely, not locally.
<0> 2MB/s remotely, not locally as well.
<1> I generally do 400-700kb/s
<0> Just got to pick the real fast Korean servers
<2> so on average, i get anywhere from 100 to 800 KB/s
<3> kuja: **** it. 17MB/s :P
<1> but for some reason apt-get has really really been worthless today
<3> nathe: It's probably your repository
<2> depends where the servers are though
<0> TML: Aaaagh! Wait til I get VDSL, if I ever move into an apartment :(
<1> TML: yeah but I get 8 megs down for $10 a month ;)
<4> TML: byte or bit?
<2> i pay $50/month for 7mbit :p
<3> Dangermouse: bit
<4> ah
<1> jiggy: I cheat.. I work for comcast.
<2> rawr
<0> :P
<3> nathe: I have municipal fiber for $45/month
<2> lucky smudge-stick
<1> jiggy: I would get 6 down for free, but I decided to pay the $10
<2> rawr!
<1> tml: see.. you ****. i wish my muni would get it's head out of it's ***
<2> you're all smudge-sticks!
<1> but if I tried to get them to do that I'd get fired, and then quashed
<1> :P
<2> lamers with higher speed
<3> nathe: Download speed testing tools show me around 30Mb/s, but I've never actually gotten that
<0> VDSL is fiber optic cable, for about $35/mo in Korea.
<4> my Uni *charges* for broadband, a week for 512k!
<3> kuja: Why do the call it DSL if it's fiber?
<3> s/the/they/
<1> kuja: yeah well... i can say thank you, ready, bow, and count to 10 in korean.. I don't think I'd to that well over there :P
<2> yeah kuji!
<0> TML: No idea, I don't even know what the V is :)
<5> Dangermouse: restricted service? for how long?
<0> TML: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/vdsl3.htm
<1> though apparently I've got a somewhat decent accent for a southener :P
<3> kuja: Everywhere else in the world: "VDSL (very high bit-rate DSL) is an xDSL technology providing data transmission up to a theoretical limit of 52 Mbit/s downstream and 12 Mbit/s upstream over a single twisted pair of wires. Compare HDSL (High bit-rate Digital Subscriber Line)."
<4> NeoThermic: how long what?
<1> TML: DSL != copper
<0> nathe: Korea's always looking for teachers.
<5> Dangermouse: how long, on average do you pay for the internet, since they price weekly?
<1> kuja: i'm not a teacher. I'll leave that to my dad
<3> kuja: That's not fiber. Read it.,
<3> "VDSL operates over the copper wires in your phone line "
<3> Copper isn't fiber
<4> NeoThermic: oh, semeseterly,..2 semesters, 39 weeks in total
<1> kuja: I am however a 3d degree blackbelt through the WTF
<5> and is it restricted?
<0> TML: "The key to VDSL is that the telephone companies are replacing many of their main feeds with fiber-optic cable."
<1> ;)
<0> TML: Korea's probably gotten that far, cause everyone's saying it's fiber optic here.
<4> NeoThermic: not in terms of how much we download. Although it goes through JANET so we have to watch what we access ;)
<1> tml: dsl can operate over fiber too
<1> tml: it depends on the signaling method
<3> nathe: It can, but they usually don't CALL it that.
<6> TML: xDSL is good across copper for apx 18,000 loop feet, beyonf that mini-dslams are used and connect from teh minidslam to the CO, then copper from minidslm to POE.
<1> tml: yeah actually they do, IDSL is a good (hah) example of that
<5> Dangermouse: thats not too bad, I have to pay a year for internet, its rather restricted and only 512 asymetrical :\
<0> TML: The transition lies within the phone companies, so they're to blame :P
<3> nathe: IDSL is over copper
<1> actually
<1> IDSL is over copper and fiber
<3> Who offers IDSL over fiber?
<1> it's a bridging mechanism
<0> Man, I remember IDSL like 7 years ago... :P
<1> it's the only reason bluestar did it that way
<0> Though we still had cable back then :P
<1> IDSL ****s though btw
<1> I was just offering it as an example
<0> IDSL was supposed to be the cheap alternative to cable in Korea about 8-9 years ago.
<0> Though cable was the same price then than it is today, it feels like the same speed too :P
<0> s/than/as/
<1> it went DSLAM ---(copper)--->SLC----(fiber)---->SLC-----(copper)---->CPE
<0> Does anyone here use pagers?
<1> and those damn SLC's would loose synch with each other
<0> The "beepers"? Anyone still use those?
<1> and you'd have to have the telco go bounce the cards
<7> kuja, thats definitely 100% depreciated
<1> kuja; sorta... we use them for some stuff
<7> unless you're a doctor
<1> archigos: or you work for a company that's cheep
<7> lol.
<0> archigos: Okay, just making sure, cause I was watching a show, about how old they are :P
<1> technically most SMS stuff works like a pager too iirc, though I could be wrong
<7> not Mind of Mencia by any chance?
<0> nathe: Mind you, 99% of South Korea's population has cell phones :)
<1> kuja: eh.
<1> kuja; I hate cells
<1> even though I have one
<7> kuja?
<0> What I don't get is, the US uses prepaid exclusively, but Korea doesn't. Prepaid seems like a better way to do it.
<7> I couldn't live without mine - given, I'm a college student
<7> and most of my friends live in other states
<0> Korea charges based on seconds of conversation. The caller gets charged.
<1> oh fsck. apache2-common doesn't have apxs
<0> nathe: apxs2
<1> kuja: that either.
<0> nathe: aptitude search apxs2
<1> returns nothing
<1> aneither does apt-cache search apxs2
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