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<0> inono_: o.O
<1> Dragnslcr: The error reporting is on. The php page works fine when called directly. what part of this is confusing?
<2> So I don't see how what you're saying connects with what I'm saying
<3> b1n0ry, that's not even close to a fair comparison, but whatever... i'm not arguing this... it's my opinion vs. your opinion == no winners
<4> Remowylliams- on meaning what? Obviously not E_ALL
<2> Personally I don't really care what I use as long as its gets the job done the easiest
<5> inono_: I caught something from someone somewhere into my head. Nevermind. But still, connect it to your head :)
<4> Remowylliams- unless you've defined a constant named pic, $_SESSION[pic] is an error for using an undefined constant
<5> inono_: There's been lots of people who just hear this and hear that, but always believe what they hear, just don't be one of them :)
<2> I recommend python/ruby to anyone who hasn't tried metaprogramming, its much more fun
<5> I'd say Ruby has the upper hand in metaprogramming, though =)
<6> "this car requires a prefectly smooth road that's designed properly for facilitating this car. if the road's bumpy, the car won't go." == "this website requires a 100% css-standards browser that's designed properly for facilitating css code. if the browser's a little off, the site looks like crap." what's not fair about that?
<1> Dragnslcr: Why does it work fine when I call the page directly?
<2> Does it?
<7> how do I access data that was sent in the URL like this: www.example.com/?data
<2> What does it have?
<3> b1n0ry, just shut up
<7> I would use $_GET, I ***ume, but what argument?
<6> macgeek|school: $_GET
<5> inono_: More meaning when they say "everything is an object".
<2> everything in python is an object too, is there something specific ruby can do that python can't?
<6> macgeek|school: i'm ***uming you mean something like www.example.com/?page=index thus $_GET['page'] == 'index'
<0> inono_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=31539 *tah-dah*
<5> inono_: Hm, I should point you to Why's guide on metaprogramming.
<7> b1n0ry: no, I mean www.example.com/?thedata
<4> macgeek|school- possibly $_SERVER['QUERY_STRING'], if it isn't var=val format
<7> I've seen it before, so I know it's possible
<2> Stormchaser, congrats it took you 10 mins to find a program written in ruby I've never heard of
<2> It will now take me the amount of time it took me to type this out to point out bittorrent
<6> macgeek|school: perhaps using mod_rewrite?
<7> Dragnslcr: okay, I'll try
<7> b1n0ry: never messed with that, perhaps I'll just use the var=val format
<5> inono_: http://poignantguide.net/dwemthy/
<8> b1n0ry: you're right -- that particular website has a formatting problem ... .looks like it wasnt ie tested
<9> hi there
<6> mkrufky: thank you for confirming
<1> Dragnslcr: Ok it's patched as you suggested. And it does exactly the same thing.
<3> b1n0ry, i already told you it's pointless to argue opinion vs. opinion, but you wouldn't let it go... so again, just shut up... btw, that's not an attack, it's a suggestion
<6> no scene from me, i just made the observation.
<8> b1n0ry: but i still agree with most of what joe333 says
<8> joe333: im sorry - i didnt mean to start anything
<10> joe33: Your attitude is unproductive.
<2> I would like to see cleaner property overloading
<10> Would you like to change it?
<10> inono: How so, specifically?
<8> anyway, it's probably just a matter of fixing a line or two in the stylesheet
<1> Dragnslcr: I have error_reporting(E_ALL) and a clean bill of health.
<9> got a strange issue with php5: modified a setting in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and it doesn't seem to be changed - phpinfo still tells it's On, while I set it to Off. What's more: phpinfo tells me that php.ini config file is located in /usr/local/lib dir, while there is no file named php.ini in there. o_O
<6> i don't disagree that IE isn't standards compliant. i would just argue that a webdesigner that disregards 80% of his potential visitors as "heh, whatever, let 'em suffer" is incompetant.
<5> inono_: That link will probably show you what, which I believe, Python cannot do. :)
<11> it works: onphp6.com(testin)
<8> hmm i shouldnt have said anything :-/
<4> rysiek|pl- then you need to put a php.ini file in that directory
<2> kuja, thats too confusing, I don't want to see code, I want to see explanations
<5> inono_: But Python believes in doing things differently, so that's just them.
<4> rysiek|pl- PHP uses default values if no php.ini file is found
<12> Is it possible to dl() an extension from a directory within my hosting directory (a directory other than the standard extensions directory)?
<3> hah, thanks ****
<10> joe333: P***ive agression is not progress.
<4> Remowylliams- what exactly is happening/not happening?
<9> kuja: rotfl, that's too easy ;)
<9> thx
<8> b1n0ry: if it had a "getfirefox" logo on the site, it would make more sense
<1> Dragnslcr: The value is incrementing by 2 (sometimes)
<5> inono_: What do you know about metacl***es?
<1> As though xmlhttpRequest is accessing the php file more than once.
<2> enough so I'm not lost
<1> In a single click
<5> inono_: To you, what is a metacl***?
<4> Remowylliams- try putting something like alert('Foobar') at the top of the loadurl function
<6> mkrufky: yeah, and i can see that the -average- user isn't going to be searching for information on RoR. i'm just making a general statement. there are lots of websites out there that are designed for the average user. and, still despite what people want to believe and despite what CSS-clergy preach, the average user still uses IE. and if you want to reach the biggest audience with your website, write it for the biggest audience. then, mak
<4> See if that function is getting called twice for some reason
<2> its generating a cl*** on the fly with lots of overloading
<8> I'm still hoping that maybe someone can help: mssql stored procedures SHOULD work properly (in linux) with php 4.1 and later .... I am running php5 , mssql_query() is working properly, but mssql_init() , mssql_bind() and mssql_execute() are not present ... what can I possibly be missing?
<9> kuja: it works, thanks again
<9> cu all :)
<1> Dragnslcr: will do.
<8> b1n0ry: it's a tough call -- it really depends on the attitude of the web developer, and the type of people he's trying to attract
<5> inono_: From this point forward, I'm going to use R and P for Ruby and Python :)
<2> ok
<4> Remowylliams- if you're replacing the element that was clicked, the event might be getting triggered again after the replace
<4> For some odd reason. Just a theory
<0> kuja: That's dumb :P
<5> inono_: Cl***es are objects in R. When you do: cl*** Foo; end, you are creating an instance of Cl***, with the name Foo.
<5> Stormchaser: Help me out here :)
<2> ok
<5> Stormchaser: I need the Python expert by myside, so he can correct me.
<6> mkrufky: i can see that. -however- i would think that a website designed specifically on the subject of web application design would go specially out of their way to make their site -perfect- on every possible platform. otherwise, it's like a professional landscape designer with a dead lawn.
<8> b1n0ry: for instance, I work on www.linuxtv.org ... I am in NO way interested for the web site to look good in iexplore, although if it's easy for me to test it, then fine.... OTOH, if I was a major corporation that depends on www for income, then yes, you're right -- i had BETTER make the site compatable with all browsers
<1> Dragnslcr: I used loadurl('flasher.php'); alert('blah')
<0> kuja: noh-uh... you're on your own ^.^
<2> yeah you can do that in P: Cl*** Foo():
<1> and now it works as advertised.
<5> Stormchaser: Dammit :P
<0> :)
<8> b1n0ry: lol ... yes good point
<1> Other than the stupid alert poppin
<5> inono_: What does Foo represent in P?
<4> Remowylliams- might have been the missing semicolon
<2> its a Cl***
<4> Change it to loadurl('flasher.php');
<5> inono_: What is "Cl***" in P?
<4> Dunno if/why that would cause the problem, but I've seen Javascript do stranger things
<5> inono_: Is it a blueprint, or does it actually belong to something?
<2> its a 'cl***obj' type
<8> b1n0ry: still -- the problem here is a minor glitch ... whomever is responsible for that page need only see the error once, and surely it can be fixed within minutes
<1> Dragnslcr: You used a semi-colon in a single function call event request?
<2> instantiating Foo will result in a 'instance' type
<6> i'm sure it could. and though i think joe333 was making honest observations, i think he was missing the point of the argument.
<8> i guess nobody around ever deals with stored procedures from mssql using php5 in linux ? :-(
<4> I usually do. Not sure offhand if it actually matters. Javascript can be rather sketchy at times
<8> b1n0ry: i think he just ran out of patience -- we've all been there
<13> hahah, javascript can be a pain in my bleep most of the time
<2> you can swap out foo's functions though, it easy, def bar(): print "hahaha"; Foo.bar = bar;
<1> Dragnslcr: No difference one I take out the alert
<4> Remowylliams- so is it working correctly now, or still the same problem?
<2> you could just tell me what it is you think python can't do and I can check if its possible or not
<1> Dragnslcr: still the same problem when I take out the alert.
<4> Hm
<6> alright, i guess i gotta be getting home. it's 4:45 and i want to leave.
<0> mkrufky: Urm... You don't want to mix mssql and Linux...
<5> inono_: I might be totally wrong, but I'm thinking that P's cl*** model doesn't let you express anything within the scope, or can you?
<4> You're also missing the third argument to xmlhttp.open
<6> StormTide: lol, i've been there
<4> Not sure what it does for a default
<6> in fact, i'm there now with a dang project
<1> Dragnslcr: And as I mentioned this is happening in IE and Firefox
<5> cl*** Foo: for x in range(1, 10): print x
<2> kuja, "express anything within the scope" ?
<6> and though i haven't yet hit the stored procedures, i'll hit them within a week
<5> inono_: Like the above code.
<4> Remowylliams- congrats then, you've found an annoying thing in Javascript that both IE and FF do the same way
<4> Finding anything they do the same way is pretty rare
<1> Dragnslcr: fabulous. so what we have hear is a multiple event triggering
<11> Hey can anybody check onphp6.com whether it's accessible after DNS update...Thanks!
<2> kuja, I'm not following you, you can define whatever you want within a cl***
<1> Ooh just got a thought
<6> mrix2: http://www.onphp6.com/ works just fine
<4> Remowylliams- my first semi-educated guess would be because you're replacing the element triggering the event
<11> b1n0ry: thanks!
<4> Remowylliams- you may try adding return false; to loadurl to stop the event
<1> FARK! I just changed onclick to onmouseup and I get the same behavior.
<6> mrix np
<6> alright, later on folks.
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