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<0> fishing design?
<1> For a new carving... I have somethig in mind, but a bit difficult due to the detail.
<1> This is the last one I did... http://static.flickr.com/47/156734420_6b4fe30823.jpg
<2> cool
<0> yeah i saw that earlier, its awesome work.
<1> thank you
<0> same kind of thing with a silhouette?
<1> basically, yeah.
<1> but water isn't easy for me
<0> yeah
<1> In my head... I have a fish coming out of the water (lake/pond) then the trees surrounding the lake, etc... something along those lines
<0> yeah I had something like a b*** jumping out of the water jumping for a lure or something
<0> ie see p*** pro logo
<0> s/p***/b***
<1> Yeah, along those lines.
<3> Does anyone have a tutorial on making php driven chat?
<3> You know, one of those little things that sits on a page.
<0> _tcc, no do you have an example?
<3> http://www.perlmonks.org/
<3> like the chatterbox at perlmonks.org
<0> man, I can see ways already to make that alot better
<4> _tcc: http://phpopenchat.org/
<5> Does anyone know how i can get the Mysql server to do something on a regular basis? e.g update the number of turns a user has every 3 mins?
<0> Zelen, create a cron job?
<3> That chat is kinda big.
<3> I was thinking just something that sits on the side of a page.
<5> I haven't got unix? Can i do cron jobs without
<3> Not too big.
<3> Like a shout box.
<0> what no unix? blasphemy
<0> and i dunno there is only one OS I know of that is not unix, and i don't use it
<0> _tcc, im not sure of a tutorial, but it would be pretty easy
<3> How would you do it?
<6> what job posting states 'PHP (OOP)' what does that mean
<0> i would create a database, and just have the form write to the database on submit, and every time the page is reloaded, get the stuff from the database
<7> Penguin: it probably means that knowledge in PHP's OOP implementation is required
<6> as in cl***es?
<8> hi. How can i upgrade mysql < 4 to mysql 4.1 on FC2 in the most simple way?
<7> _tcc: and to make that neater, use XHR
<0> what is XHR?
<8> sorry wrong channel.
<0> neater use ajax
<7> XMLHTTPRequest
<0> oh
<0> ajax
<0> lies
<9> i know that '$_SESSION = array()' deletes the contents of the session, but does '$_SESSION = null' do the same? (php5 user)
<7> marketing person
<7> korkl: tias
<0> who's marketing?
<7> korkl: (try it and see)
<9> deadroot: sorry, what's tias mean?
<3> hrm
<3> well thanks
<3> I need to goto(bed);
<3> :)
<9> deadroot: i have and yes it does :) but I want to know if it's correct
<7> cythrawll: ajax is marketing fluff
<0> for?
<0> what are they selling? nothing that wasn't already there?
<7> korkl: if it works as expected then it is correct ;)
<0> i tend to think of it as more of a paradigm
<0> like OOP
<0> a buzzword
<0> which is handy to bring back dhtml from the dead pretty much
<9> cythrawll: woh, OOP is definatley not a buzzword
<0> it wuz
<7> i would consider OOP to be a buzzword as well
<0> ajax is a name to an already existing paradigm
<7> which is convenient to p*** on ideas to a layperson, without that layperson learning more
<0> yes
<0> but the layperson doesn't implement this **** either
<9> i agree though, ajax is a buzzword.. but the paradigm of OOP is very applicable, the word itself perhaps is a buzzword
<7> but without understanding it, the buzzword becomes more valuable than what it actually represents
<0> only problem i see is with pointy haired bosses pressuring a group to use ajax when it's not needed, and not knowing the drawbacks
<0> someone needs to arm the w3c
<0> and march them on redmond
<7> from public perception, the w3c ain't gonna do that
<1> Who do you think funds the w3c
<7> microsoft is a member
<1> yep
<9> does anyone know of any simple well-designed opensource php products? i want to learn from the source code
<9> php5 preferred
<0> doh!
<0> who let them in?
<1> korkl you're kidding , right?
<7> korkl: sorry. you gotta learn it like the rest of us, trial and error
<1> korkl google, sf, fm, etc
<0> that's like al capone being a member of MADD
<9> jymmm, deadroot: lol, yes i'm at sf right now. but i just wanted your recommendations. there are so many hyped products out
<1> Mobsters againest defending democracy?
<0> Mothers against Drunk Driving
<10> later
<0> anyways, im done with my beer and im going to bed nn
<11> hallo
<9> question: is it really necessary to check '(isset($_COOKIE[...]) && $_COOKIE[...])' ? wouldn't 'isset($_COOKIE[...])' do?
<7> damn... i didn't realise i was in ##php
<7> korkl: if you're checking if the variable contains a value, you can just use empty()
<7> www.php.net/empty
<9> deadroot: ok so empty() essentially does both isset() and != false?
<7> does the manual say that?
<12> korkl, empty is !$var without the varning.
<7> php's manual is pretty reliable
<12> warning*
<9> deadroot: ok but isn't empty() exactly the same as == false?
<7> i think it amounts to the same thing
<12> so it can be translated into, (!isset($var) || !$var)
<7> but !empty() isn't the same as '=== false'
<9> i think you mean empty() is not the same as === false
<7> maybe, i'm not too sure. my logic neurons has been misfiring lately...
<9> ok so like i said, colder: (!isset($var) || !$var), therefore !(.. all that) is the same as (isset() && $var)
<12> korkl, yes, (isset() && $var) is the same as !empty()
<9> colder: cool, so doing !empty() will allow me to combine those two ugly checks into a single much more readable call :)
<13> if i read from the file and yhe file would be rotated, did the position of file handle change or not?
<12> yep, notice that empty is not always what you want, if you expect both "0" and <no value> for example
<9> colder: do I have to worry if a variable is not set, but I call empty() on it? will it return true if a variable is not set?
<9> colder: yes I'm aware of those cases
<12> korkl, yep, it will return true without any notice if the variable is not set.
<9> excellent
<7> korkl: if you expect values from the client all the time (as in required), then yes
<7> korkl: otherwise, if you want to allow empty values, you still might have to do that isset
<9> deadroot: right, but if i regard 0's, null's, false, as empty values.. then calling !empty() is a-ok?
<1> !+0
<14> 0 == FALSE, but 0 !== FALSE. Some functions, such as strpos(), can return 0 as a valid (boolean true) result. For these, you must explicitly check === (or !==) FALSE. Yes, it does break logic and was intentional for some reason or another --> http://cvs.php.net/co.php/ZendEngine2/zend_operators.c#259
<12> _yes_ (:
<9> stormbot: thank you, i'm aware of this :)
<15> hello... i have an odd problem... i have a script that does header(content type); readfile(xxx); exit(); .... it should play a MOV file... it works perfectly in WIN ie, ff, opera and MAC ff... but MAC Safari just won play it...
<15> if i take the script out of the framework i am using then it works in all browsers... i examined the headers inside and outside the framework and there exactly the same
<12> cornernote, that's not realted to php then.
<12> related*
<15> i know - its not related to anything... #mac users tell me to come here... #php users tell me to go to #mac
<15> but its a problem and i am just looking for ideas
<12> contraventor, do you have any working example in safari ?
<12> if you do, reproduce it and try again.
<5> Does anyone know how i can get the Mysql server to do something on a regular basis? e.g update the number of turns a user has every 3 mins?
<15> cron
<7> Zelnen: do you need to do that globally?
<9> question: to delete a cookie, the time argument really isn't necessary is it? setcookie(self::COOKIE_NAME, null) works fine?
<15> they are introducing an in-built cron system into mysql soon
<5> What do you mean globally?
<7> Zelnen: in your example, the only reason to do it on a regular basis is if you're doing a large batch job, like updating the data for all the players
<5> I am doing that
<5> But i don't know how to make it update every 3 mins automaticly
<7> Zelnen: are you sure that you /need/ that?
<5> Yes i do
<7> cron would be the easiest. but for win32, as you have mentioned before, there is microsoft's task scheduler, but i don't know how to use that effectively
<5> k
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