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<0> i did everyone gave me ****
<1> oh lol
<2> not everyone
<0> well most people a while back
<0> like a month ago
<0> what is a good boo k
<3> the author is Julie Meloni
<0> ***ume i have no programming experiance
<4> maybe it's easier?
<4> oops
<1> I've heard good things about Sitepoint's books -> www.sitepoint.com/books/
<3> a woman wrote it.. no wonder.. -_- (j/k)
<5> I've heard good things about http://php.net/manual .. it's a wonder nobody uses it first.
<1> niraj: there are SOME women here, watch it! lol
<3> hehe i know
<1> caffinated: I already reccomended it ;)
<3> hence the prominent j/k :P
<0> Dangermouse, i have site point book on shelf lemee dig out
<5> niraj: believe me, the last thing you want to do is rag on female programmers. they *will* eat you alive :-o
<0> caffinated, i like to be able to highlight stuff and its easier for me to work outta book sut preference i use the online manual for refrence
<1> niraj: Put it at the beginning. They might parse that string and just get to the first few words and think 'DIE!' before they get to the end!
<1> caffinated: Words of experience, eh?
<0> ill make sure to video the book burning ceremony tonight !
<3> Dangermouse: lol
<5> Dangermouse: you've seen pol on a bad day, you draw your own conclusions.
<6> is "Core php programming" a good book?
<0> jes, good refrence so i've been told
<7> is there a way to log all mail() calls from any script on a shared host?
<6> a need a good book to learn dynamic webpage creation, would it be a good idea to buy this book?
<6> s/a/i
<0> i have database driven websites using PHP and MYsql from sitepoint
<8> xirjs: not in any other details than sendmail longs saying what user injected the message
<9> jes: no
<9> 12:48 AM, is that a possible time? ;)
<9> it should be 00:48 PM, huh?
<8> xirjs: maybe you could disable the mail function, add in include path, and an auto prepend file that defines a replacement mail function that uses an smtp cl*** and add all the logging you want
<6> efektivus: what would ya suggest?
<9> jes: depends on what do you want to learn
<7> ||cw: does not sound easy ... ;)
<6> Everything bout that :)
<0> mrturtle, you build database driven websites right ?
<2> yep
<8> xirjs: the other option is to hack the php source
<7> ||cw: does not sound easy too ... ;-)
<7> no other solution ... ?
<7> i think the problem occours on lots of shared hosts ...
<8> just disable mail() and make everyone use their own cl***. this is what more and more hosts are doing
<8> mail() is a really crappy implementation
<0> mrturtle, where did you get your knowledge
<2> raden, I have http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0672317842/sr=1-3/qid=1139248407/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-3724622-7215364?%5Fencoding=UTF8 which I learned from. Once I got the basic ideas, I learned from the online manual
<2> That book is in a 3rd edition now that covers PHP5. It's available at my local library...it might be at yours
<7> ||cw: i dont believe that i get better code-quality when i explain to all users that they have to use their own sendmail-cl***es ... ;(
<8> not sendmail, smtp
<7> lots of people use just software like typo3, phpbb ... nuke ...
<7> all of them use mail() ...
<8> it's better because you don't have to run a mail server ON your web server
<7> ||cw: i dont like this solution ...
<8> all of them are broken then, IMO
<8> many hosts disable mail()
<10> You can get rid of mail() by removing sendmail and recompile PHP. If PHP can't find a sendmail, it won't compile the mail() function in.
<7> i cannot remove sendmail/qmail from this host ...
<8> BigE: the real problem is that his users have crappy code that allow spam attacks and mail() is too weak to log things like what script is sending what mail
<10> Heh.
<11> Crappy code meaning allowing anyone to send? Or just no authentication?
<12> allowing newlines to be interpreted as new headers.
<13> Falc: it means many things
<12> amongst many others.
<11> Okay. I just got a view of how big of a problem it is...
<13> Falc: lack of input validation is the largest one imo
<8> Falc: for instance, not validating that the "from " address deosn't have a \r\n in it so that a new "bcc:" header can be added right in
<12> actually *any* header.
<12> not just the From:
<8> true
<9> jes: so get a book :)
<9> e-book
<8> but from is usualy the only one that you allow user input for
<12> ||cw: thanks for the help earlier before, btw.
<9> a free one..
<14> Can PHP unzip/unrar/gunzip/bunzip??? Or what's the easiest way for me to upload 2600 files in a compressed archive and then unarchive it after It's been uploaded?
<6> efektivus: where can i get a free one?
<13> ||cw: and possibly parts of the message
<15> is there a awy
<13> ||cw: and I've seem people put user input in the To argument
<8> Chicago: you can exec, and there are compression extentions in pear/pecl
<15> is there a way to create a variable from a an value of an ***oc array
<8> AcidReign: by having to as a hidden field?
<15> something like '$'.array_values($array); ?
<13> ||cw: I've seen that too
<8> man, some people's lack of understanding of how the web works really scares me
<14> ||cw: do you think I can do that in the limited GoDaddy economy linux hosting??? I"m checking a phpinfo from them now to see.
<13> cored: you want to do what??
<15> AcidReign: i need something like that
<8> Chicago: depends, some allow exec, some don't
<15> AcidReign: im trying to abstract the prepare statement procedure from MDB2
<8> Chicago: pecl would be right out though, but pear might still be an option
<15> AcidReign: i just have how to get the type part, but i need to create a variable name for each field
<13> cored: if you have an ***oc array, you can just do extract( $array )
<8> cored: not sure why you think you need a var for each field, but if you really do, that's what extract() is for
<0> mrturtle, ive never seen soo many 5 star reviews on a book
<13> if the names are the values of the array, then: foreach( $array as $val ) { ${$val} = $val; }
<15> AcidReign: ok
<2> raden, it was really helpful. And I had very little programming experience (just lots of HTML knowledge)
<0> i have moderate html
<0> mrturtle, will it actually teach me the basics of php too ?
<16> Chicago: The best way to upload lots of files would be to not involve a web browser. FTP, webdav, rsync, etc would be far more effective. But your options will be limited of course, if your hosting isn't intended for such a task.
<17> ytno
<16> Web-based file uploads ****.
<2> very much so. It taught me PHP and MySQL. It really gave me a good foundation to use to learn by myself
<2> It ***umes you know nothing about PHP
<2> or any other programming
<18> mrturtle, is there an ebook format of that
<2> not sure...I can look
<14> ||cw: mattmcc: This is the phpinfo for my godaddy shared hosting. I didn't see pear or pecl there. What do you guys think is the easiest way for me to uncompress and archive after uploading it... http://tvdjinni.com/phpinfo.php
<18> mmmm actually it's a bit old...
<8> Chicago: you don't have to have pear installed to use things from it, just copy the cl***es out and use them
<18> man I need to get back into coding
<0> mrturtle, once i get some mulla ill have to order that
<18> so I can go back to my days of having fun inside 4D arrays
<0> just ordered $200 worth of books a week ago :(
<2> alystair, there's a 3rd edition that came out last year. I just had the link to show the one I used
<2> Can you return them or sell them used?
<8> Chicago: http://pear.php.net/search.php?q=zip&in=packages&x=0&y=0 choose one and download
<19> if I want to match 1-31 using regexp, how could that be done?
<13> sandstrom1: you want to match the literal value "1-31" ? or numbers ranging from "1" to "31"
<13> sandstrom1: and is this within another string, or the complete value?
<19> I want to make sure its a valid day of month...
<14> ||cw: so the file archive cl*** is gonna be nice. thanks for the link. I wonder if it works with 4.3.11
<14> ||cw: php v.4.3.11
<18> hmm
<13> sandstrom1: then do if( $num > 0 && $num < 32 )
<8> Chicago: it's page should say what's supported
<18> PHP in a Nutshell, from O'reilly
<18> it's really fresh.
<0> mrturtle, thats PHP 5 right ?
<13> sandstrom1: you'd also have to check the number of days in the monty specified...
<2> sandstrom1, ([1-9]|[12][0-9]|30|31) ?
<18> haha, so fresh, it's copyright 2006
<13> sandstrom1: not all months have 31 days you know
<19> I know, but thats okey..
<14> ||cw: awesome... the only dependency is PHP Version: PHP 4.3.0 or newer so guess what, godaddy economy linux hosting fits.
<2> raden, the third edition is. The one I have is 4, but there are so many similarities it wasn't hard to make the shift
<20> what book are you talking about?
<20> i'd like to get a book too
<20> i missed the conversation
<2> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0672326728/qid=1139249088/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3724622-7215364?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
<19> mrturtle thanks!
<2> I also read part of the o'reilly book at the library. It was good (and covers php5) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596005431/qid=1139249683/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-3724622-7215364?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
<20> thanks turtle
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