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<0> I benchmarked it because it was a fun thing to do - but yes, it is stupid to optimize var_dump for performance
<1> kuja, ah opp
<2> Not exactly a parse error, that's undetermined (cause the following code is unknown)
<3> kuja: yes know its the same
<3> hehe what did i started :)
<1> kuja, ahh yes I see, the last ." was a mistake
<1> heh
<2> I guess it comes with the territory.
<1> kuja, well I was typing rather quickly :P
<0> I would benchmark echo vs print if I could hack one of them to do something better
<4> ${'kuja'} = 'hawk';
<2> =P
<5> so is it without the dot like echo "php version '.phpversion()'";
<2> NEWLINE: I'm really tired of this. I really am. Do you know how to read the manual?
<2> I can't believe that people are still asking in ##php to baby feed them.
<5> i've read it
<1> NEWLINE, try reading it again
<1> NEWLINE, http://pastebin.com/539337 just look at it
<2> NEWLINE: Do you see what's wrong with your continuous questions? You're basically trying to *learn* PHP in this channel. That's not our job, it's the manual's job.
<6> hi guys..
<2> 2 smokes in 5 minutes. I'm on a record, time for another one.
<2> Damn stressful ##php.
<4> heh
<6> how do I execute a command after 1 minute the user accessed my webpage?
<1> gah, slippery slope kuja
<1> kuja, be a teaaholic like me
<2> If I die, it's ##php's fault :P
<1> hah
<2> Be sure to not conclude it as suicide.
<4> Judge--: probably with the 'at' tool
<1> maybe you should try #php, much more relaxing in there :P
<2> Mmmm, I don't think I will be able to get into #php
<1> Any of you chaps using WASP regularly ?
<1> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/php/2006/01/19/wasp_intro.html For info
<7> Provito, I have a friend who is a wasp...
<7> I use him regularly.
<7> He's such a pushover.
<8> do anyone here do any devlopment on freebsd
<6> zircu can you give more info please?
<2> Looks like another ****ty framework for PHP5.
<4> change the network and you'll get there.. although, you might die faster then
<4> Judge--: man at
<1> kuja, ****ty? you tried it and read the source?
<2> Provito: How many PHP frameworks have you tried?
<2> There are countless, that are all ****ty. Don't you think it's about time that PHP comes with a decent framework? I find it'll never come out.
<2> I won't waste my time writing PHP anymore and hope in search of a nice rapid development framework.
<9> kuja: like phpoontrax?
<4> kuja: well 6.0 might have such a thing
<2> I've wasted enough time.
<2> zircu: That *might* be worth looking into.
<7> Stormchaser, PHPonthe645crosstownbus
<2> The Zend Framework that is.
<9> Touqen: That's so lame it's not even funny
<2> PHP on Crack
<7> It's better than fpoontrax
<2> :P
<5> i know what im doing now
<5> sorry
<5> im tired
<5> :p
<7> Yes. You are tiring.
<2> NEWLINE: If I had a dollar for when everyone said "I'm tired" as an excuse, the Queen of England would be a peasant.
<7> kuja, But not bill gates?
<2> Bill Gates would come back with marketing strategy.
<7> Heh
<5> a BIG sorry to kuja
<5> :)
<0> wow, echo turned out to be much harder then I thought
<0> to hack it, would require hacking the whole Zend engine
<7> ...
<0> it's an actual opcode..
<7> Wow...
<7> You're a bright one.
<0> is that sarcasm?
<0> :(
<9> no, a fact.
<10> mpetrov: That's why the manual says "echo() is not actually a function (it is a language construct)"
<0> TML: yes I looked at that - but I didn't think it was embedded that deeply into the language
<10> mpetrov: That's what "language construct" means
<11> can anyone suggest any shared hosting providers that offer PHP5 and MySQL 4.1 or higher?
<7> mpetrov, What did you think that language construct actually meant?
<7> examancer, localhost
<0> TML: yes, that's true - it was just fun to hack var_dump an hour ago, so I decided to try my luck with echo...
<3> examancer: webhostfreaks.com
<12> examancer: site5 is preety cool
<11> lizardX: someone suggested site5 to me... i am definately thinking about going with them
<3> examancer: very cheap and nice support, never had problems with them but i havent tried any other either
<0> Touqen: well I did know what a language construct is - but I have very little experiences with actual compilers so I was just surprised
<12> examancer: i have no complains about them
<7> mpetrov, It's not really all _that_ different from a function.
<2> I'm hungry... what should I go for? Japanese or Chinese?
<10> kuja: Chinese
<7> UDON!
<2> TML: Good call.
<2> Cheap and delicious.
<0> Touqen: well, no - not very different... I'm still exploring further right now to see the actual output statements of it... it's interesting to go to the very essence of the language I use every day
<2> Touqen: I could buy a bag of udon at the local mart for cheap, but then I'd have to walk out :(
<1> as a quick straw pole, how many developers in here use CVS and roll out their code to production servers in stable release exports?
<7> Yea. If you order it they give you meats and veggies and stuff.
<1> s/pole/poll lol
<2> Touqen: Mm, 4 bucks a bowl :)
<2> Though, still I find Chinese more delicious (this being Korea I eat udon wayyy too much)
<7> I guess.
<5> wtf, echo 'Apache Version: ' . apache_get_version(); doesnt work but echo 'PHP Version: ' . phpversion(); does, eh!?
<0> Touqen: I would roll out my own if I had a dedicated server...
<7> I don't get to eat it all that often because all the good japanese restaurants are a little ways away.
<5> 1 works but the other doesnt?
<7> NEWLINE, Are you using the apache module?
<2> Touqen: Try making your own!
<5> no
<2> lol
<5> :p
<7> NEWLINE, READ THE DOCS YOU TART
<2> I couldn't have put it better myself.
<7> ****.
<2> That's about 309480329 times I told him to read the docs.
<5> sorry
<7> People today.
<7> When will they learn?
<2> People everyday
<9> never?
<2> Haha, udon at a Chinese restaraunt, it's like 50 cents cheaper
<7> The question is will it taste just as good though?
<0> so print always returns true?
<0> I think I just found the line that sets it to true
<13> ****ng spam, my god
<13> it's to the point where i want to remove info and webmaster
<2> Touqen: The Japanese will deliver in plastic, recyclable bowls. The chinese will deliver in *real* bowls, but they come back for it. That might alter the taste :)
<10> mpetrov: print never returns true. It returns 1.
<7> Interesting.
<7> Must be nice to live somewhere where they will actually deliver in real bowls.
<7> We're lucky to get something better than cardboard in the states.
<2> Touqen: They probably don't like coming back for the bowls and dishes. Chinese restaraunts will always deliver real **** and just come back for it.
<2> After you're done just set your stuff outside and they take it away like an hour or two later
<7> Oh. Here it'd get stolen.
<2> lol
<2> Luckily enough people don't do that here :)
<10> That's what I was just thinking
<2> Got remember, we're based on tradition.
<10> I can't imagine leaving dishes outside my door.
<2> Got to, even
<7> Homeless people are pretty prolific in metro areas.
<0> TML: my mistake, it returns 1 of type LONG
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