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<0> Em`Zee : i want to be able to add new commands without having to restart the bot
<1> Which I decidedly am not.
<2> TML, understandable
<3> design; Write a second-level language to run the commands.
<1> mfonda: But I promise you've heard of them. :)
<3> ie. make your bot into a parsing engine
<3> then you can easily reference the secondary file without a rehash
<3> The other option is to re-include a file
<0> Em`Zee : there we go!
<1> mfonda: If you listed the top 50 software companies in the world, it'd probably make the list.
<2> TML, I remember you told me one time, but my memory is gone :)
<3> I'm not entirely sure if that works or not
<3> But I remember doing it once
<3> I just can't remember if I did it with static variables or full routines
<4> TML: What languages do the 'big dogs' utilize for web applications .. for the most part?
<1> ^Artnez: Probably easier to list they ones they don't.
<3> Server-side: PHP and Python. Client-side: Flash (=() and Javascript
<4> TML: I see. Depends on the project then?
<3> That's my guess, anyways.
<1> ^Artnez: Yes
<3> So few webservers I've come across actually still use CGI/Perl
<3> I even went as far as to disable CGI on my apache install, for security reasons.
<1> ^Artnez: We use the various .NET languages, Java, Python, Perl, PHP, C, C++, a handful of lisp projects...
<0> TML : ditto
<0> + ruby
<3> I never quite got the hang of Ruby ><
<3> C++, C, PHP, Python, Perl, sure.
<4> I never had any formal training in this stuff... I just sat night and day learning and reading.
<3> Ruby? Nope.
<5> TML .NET WTF
<1> I think I saw a scheme app floating around the other day. More shell scripts than you could shake a stick at...
<3> Java? **** no.
<6> heh
<1> Jymmm: *shrug*
<3> ^Artnez; I just picked a project I wanted to do
<5> TML =)
<3> and went searching through reference manuals
<1> Jymmm: Think "To defeat the enemy, you must know him"
<3> PHP and C are remarkably similar
<1> Em`Zee: On the surface, anyway
<3> (at least to me they seem so)
<3> TML; Yeah.
<3> The inner workings are a bit more complex ;)
<3> Mmm C sockets
<1> Decidedly less so once you get away from "hello world"
<6> Em`Zee: yah, they are very alike.
<5> TML Knowing and using the enemy are two different things... I know EXCH, dont me I'll use/admin it.
<5> TML Knowing and using the enemy are two different things... I know EXCH, doesn't mean I'll use/admin it.
<3> heh
<0> so anyone doing php-gtk stuff?
<5> try #phpgtk
<3> alright I should go move my *** into bed, I have a fscking Calc test tomorrow
<1> Jymmm: That's how I comfort myself at night, and you're trying to strip it away, you bastard.
<3> ><
<4> designdream: I fiddled... and dropped it.
<5> try #php-gtk
<3> nite guys
<0> Jymmm thanks man
<1> Em`Zee: Show me a man who understands memory allocation in C and I'll show you a man who can probably pick his own job.
<5> TML: Just think of MrsTml in a ***y teddy, that should comfort you some
<3> TML; I know 2 people who can. Both of them are my age
<3> and both of them can't get a job anywhere =P
<0> Em`Zee how old are you?
<3> designdream; 18
<3> I feel bad for them
<0> thats about the time i stopped obsessing on computers and discovered women
<3> they both clearly outperform me in computers
<3> yet I'm the one making money hand-over-fist at Merrill-Lynch
<3> designdream; Heh, been there, ****ed that ;) =P
<3> Besides, my fiancee is down a state
<3> she's in school right now
<3> I get to see her in another week
<3> then after that I have to wait till april
<3> d'oh ><
<4> Em`Zee: To get yourself planted somewhere on this planet, you need to find a good blend between "street" skill and professional skills. You found it, your friends didnt i guess ;)
<3> ^Artnez; Heh indeed.
<7> ^Artnet, where do you work
<7> ^Artnez*
<4> Like TML, I'd rather not say :)
<0> Em`Zee : ml has an 18 yrl admin? i'm not trusting them with any money...
<3> That and I told the manager I had a fiancee so I had to support her somehow while she was making her way through school ;)
<3> designdream; Just locally
<4> rjokei: I dont trust the eenternet.
<3> the branch in my area has me running security and repair
<3> It's not like I run ML's whole system ;)
<7> ^Artnez, I'm just interested in finding a job
<4> rjokei: best advice i can give (im not a pro, so dont be surprised if its wrong) is that the market is booming with the "web 2.0" marketing fiasco
<6> web 2.0 is a ****.
<6> its just a lame name for ajax.
<4> Gimp_: it makes money (thus the 'marketing fiasco' bit)
<0> xoad...
<6> hahaha
<6> ^Artnez: yah...
<8> Ajax is tasty stuff.
<4> I mean look at digg.com .. those ****ers created something so simple. Hell, my nut sweat has more substance than that code... but it freaking works.
<4> Its also apparently non-profit... but somehow there's a "digg staff" that just bought brand new offices in CA
<0> venture capital...
<4> Yep.. they got millions.
<4> Or how about how Yahoo is sweeping up those popular "web 2.0" sites like Flickr
<0> remember the .com days? they're .com2.0
<4> their marketing budget is 500 million + .. or somethign like that.
<4> paying someone 1 mill for a whole community that took 1 year to establish is like picking their nose.
<4> but thats just what it seems like on the surface..
<7> guess i'll make a porn site then!
<7> whee
<0> a guy at work wrote IMO better flickr
<4> designdream: whats his first name?
<0> sean
<4> n/m :)
<9> being a phpnoob, are MVC's as you might find in java a normal pattern in php?
<4> designdream: i also know someone that, IMO, wrote a much better flickr
<4> however he never made it public.. that stupid stupid man.
<0> we have it timelined to launch april first .. without the $2.00 charge
<4> and what about MySpace.. think how that took off. It catered to the AOL-hungry population.
<10> hola
<4> hi roue
<4> its sites like Slashdot, MySpace and CraigsList that confuse me most. The functionality is pure junk IMO, design wise and back-end wise... yet they made the makers millions of dollars.
<7> ^Artnez... rich content is... rich content
<4> rjokei: aye.
<7> 2chan.net
<0> i meet more women in person fro myspace than naywhere else
<4> designdream: a friend of mine is into all of the net stuff, although he's pretty embar***ed about it.
<4> he's met a ton of chicks in their mid-20s that ended being one night stands.
<6> designdream: remove the "wo" from that sentance, and you'll get the quote correct.
<11> anyone know off the top of their head how to tell if a page is being access using https or not?
<4> Gimp_: trust me dude.. there's so much *** to be handed out there -- if you live in NY that is
<0> i'm not.. i live on an island with 2000 people..i don't have much of a choice.. plus girls come visit.. they all come here for spring breka
<6> ^Artnez: haha
<4> the-erm: yes, trying to remember
<4> its a env variable.. damnit
<12> HTTPS in $_SERVER
<4> $_SERVER['HTTPS'] .. yea. blah.
<12> but, some will say not to trust this :)
<6> hahaha
<11> duh
<11> I was looking at phpinfo().
<6> heh
<11> Its so obvious now...
<6> good ol phpinfo...
<4> the-erm: keep in mind that you'll get an undefined var sometimes
<12> it';s also documented in the php manual :)
<4> if it isnt set, it might not be defined at all. atleast that's what i experienced.
<11> that's why i said 'off the top of your head'
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