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<0> it will be 20$
<1> I only have the equivalent of a five..
<2> haha
<2> ok, deal
<1> cool
<1> I'll have to send it trough western union though
<3> !+cbd
<4> [CBD] Cash Before Delivery
<0> :D
<2> haha
<1> :)
<5> any zend certified around? i wonder if that official zend ceritification guide is enough to get good marks...
<2> I'd like to get certified.
<2> I doubt my company is going to dough out though.
<2> How much is it worth?
<3> $0.0001 USD
<2> heh
<2> let me rephrase that
<2> how much does it cost?
<6> diogo86, the Zend Certification exam is a joke.
<5> kuja, i was afraid of that...
<7> so much so, you should have asked before midday
<2> When you say a joke do you mean it's stupidly easy?
<3> The ONLY certification that is or ever has been worth anying is CCNA and above.
<5> hermit, worst. he might mean it's stupidly easy and nobody gives a damn
<6> diogo86, it is not a test on your abilities as a PHP programmer, it is a test on your memory of how well you know the standard library. That is hardly relevant as a programmer, because even good coders need a reference to look at back and forth sometimes.
<8> kuja: I disagree with you
<2> ew
<6> You can disagree all you want.
<8> hermit: come to php|tek, the ZCE is free with admission :)\
<2> you mean it's like knowing needle/haystack params for the absurdly inconsistent functions?
<6> hermit, how good is your memory?
<2> explode($var, ',') ; <- YOU FAIL!
<8> kuja: are you ZCE?
<2> it's alright
<3> hermit No testing required... just show up and it's yours
<2> Davey: where is that
<2> hahah
<2> What is CCNA?
<8> hermit: Orland, FL
<2> I thought that was like CIsco
<8> Orlando
<9> CCNA is e***y :P
<6> Davey: I think the test exam is enough for me to say it's stupid. After all, I wouldn't take it *because* I took the test.
<2> oh, no thanks
<3> Cisco Certified Network Administrator
<9> but
<9> still doesn't mean much
<6> I mean, that's what it's there for, no?
<9> uhhh
<9> I thought it was ***ociate?
<9> :P
<8> kuja: having taken the exam, and gotten certified, I disagree
<6> Jymmm, I was thinking about getting into Cisco... but damn :P
<8> the exam was *hard* and required thinking about way more than function args
<2> Davey: you have the ZCE?
<3> Davey: Is that why they're giving them out for free
<8> hermit: indeed I do
<8> Jymmm: MTA and Zend have an agreement :)
<10> Is it possible to use DEFINEs like in C or C++?
<8> tonisius: define()
<2> define()
<10> ok, thanks
<2> I wish you could use: const MYCONST = 'myvalue';
<3> big ****ing deal... I have multiple certifications, all becasue they were free to me - BFD
<8> hermit: you can in cl***es
<2> i know
<11> can anyone think of a good reason why bind_param doesn't work?
<2> but i mean for global constants
<5> Davey, is that official book for taking the exams?
<8> Jymmm: all I know is, I've been through the hiring process recently and given a mini-ZCE exam, it was very good to help weed out the wieners from the good people
<2> it is nonsense that they would have added cl*** const support and not made it available globally
<6> Jymmm, Cisco?
<2> Davey: are these mini-ZCE exams available online for free to look at?
<3> Davey ****.... common sense coudl have done that.
<2> we have been having a tough time tfinding php programmers with a clue
<6> Davey: I think the test exam should be 1) lengthened, and 2) include more logic, rather than memory testing
<2> that would be helpful
<6> Aren't you contracted with Zend?
<12> hello
<3> kuja: Nah Microsoft, Novell, etc
<12> does any one know the server of xoops ?
<10> ugh, it isnt the same as C and C++
<10> only for constant defines... not actual defines
<5> espresso, how are you doing it ?
<9> $var = "";
<9> :>
<2> well php isn't C and C++, for one
<2> tonisius: what are you trying to accomplish
<10> hermit: that wasnt the question.. i was looking for some sort of macro/define LIKE C and C++....
<10> trying to create a macro
<11> diogo86:http://pastebin.com/635210
<2> not being a c/c++ programmer I am not sure what you're looking for
<2> i don't know what a macro is in this context
<10> that's fine
<2> what are you trying to accomplish
<8> kuja: yes, and do you know why? *Because* I'm ZCE :)
<6> Davey: Yes, so get up and tell them to make the test exam better, and maybe people will get a better impression off of it. I can't be blamed that I had a bad impression.
<5> espresso, $stmt->execute; // the parentheses are optional here? haven't noticed any mistake.. let me test it here
<6> A bad impression of the exam, that is.
<13> *giggle*
<13> http://www.google.com/romance/profile.html
<6> Davey: Something like "How do you explode a string by `|' and get the first element in a single expression" :P
<11> diogo86: I'm following a 'recipe'
<2> hm there's a self test on zend.com
<2> i am going to try it out if it's free to see what kind of **** they ask
<11> diogo86: what parentheses are ptional?
<6> hermit: As of currently it's ridiculous. I wish they'd fix it.
<2> friggin page is slow
<6> The self test practically tests your memory rather than the ways you think as a PHP programmer.
<2> espresso: parens for methods are not optional unless it's a __get or __set i believe
<5> espresso, i thought it should be execute(); not execute; // but not sure if the parentheses are optional. i'm testing it here..
<2> kuja_: can't load **** anyways
<2> the site is crawling
<11> diogo86: it's not breaking on execute... that line actually works...
<6> hermit: Where do you think I got my first impression of the real exam? From the self test
<6> I just got a horrible impression of it.
<11> diogo86: the line prior is where it's breaking
<5> espresso, is it not inserting into the table?
<5> humm
<2> kuja_: well i would like to see it also
<5> ohhh
<2> if the fscking page would load
<6> hermit: You might be disappointed :)
<5> espresso, you should not insert the $id, $name... on the query
<5> espresso, it should be INSERT INTO filler VALUER ( ?, ?, ?, ?)
<2> kuja_: well from the sounds of things i wont be disappointed as my expectations are low
<5> values*
<2> but it won't load anyways
<2> just sitting for minutes now
<6> lol
<6> I trust Davey, so if he says it's worth it, I believe him. I just don't trust the self test.
<11> diogo86: oh crap... got it
<6> Given that I've known Davey for a couple years now, and he's a good man =)
<5> espresso, that's why we're using prepared statements :)
<11> diogo86: you mean using caps?
<14> http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/8367/Scientists_Create_Liquid_That_Has_No_Friction
<5> what you mean as caps, espresso ? (im foreign
<11> THESE ARE CAPS
<11> capital letters
<5> espresso, no
<5> espresso, i mean using ? ? ? ? and not $id, $name, ...
<5> espresso, these question marks would be replaced by the variables when you bind_param()
<6> When you bind and use the question marks they will be handled (escaped, quoted if strings etc) I believe. So it's convenient.
<5> espresso, $query = "insert into filler values(?, ?, ?, ?)";
<11> eh? I'm confused... that's what I typed
<5> espresso, you pastebin shows $query = "insert into filler values($id, $aname, $title, $bodytext)";
<5> espresso, when i type ? i'm not beeing lasy! it's a litteral question mark
<11> oh poo... missed that... sorry
<11> diogo86: I changed it to that because it didn't work and was trying something different...
<11> I'll try again
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