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<0> Judd-MGT: Well... isn't it obvious? <1> Judd-MGT: any security holes discovered you are immediatly available for being attacked, whilst hiding php will make it harder to discover <2> ummm no.. considering that if I wanted to hack something it would be very easy to figure out what they are using <0> If I know that box X runs PHP 3.01, I could find some old exploit or something and "attack" it. <0> If I don't know what version it runs, I have to guess and it's pretty much useless... <2> or a hacker how had the time would just run every expoit <2> and wait for a hit <2> harder is not greater becuase computer time is negligent <2> a computer could quickly go through the exploits <0> I prefer to be secure over participating in statistics. <3> Davey: did you have any trouble with properties in php4 when you used it? <4> Folks EASY UP ON THE ENTER key please! <3> Davey: Cl*** Properties <4> Security thru obscurity, is no security at all. <1> Jymmm: theres a little bit, it keeps some of the more kiddyish script kiddies away <5> Jymmm is right, but its still fun to switch the header just to mess with people... OOOH! make it rotate!!!!
<0> Aaaah. Finally a clean, nice box. <4> itrebal: No, there's not. <0> It took ~500 installations and four years, but it was worth it! <1> Jymmm: how so? <4> itrebal: It's like hiding a key to your house under the mat. <1> how so? <4> itrebal: I just told you. And remember what I said about repeating myself. <1> i know, i remember, ok <5> itrebal: Jymmm raises good points.. security through obscurity is usually a bad idea <6> itrebal, did you have any ideas on what i could do? <1> Silliman: oh, lol, no... not right now <0> Of course nobody's claiming that hiding the version(s) of backend software makes a box bullet-proof against crack attacks... <0> But it certainly would scare me away if I attempted something. <5> i just think it would be neat to mess with people... i've thought of hiding a simple game like tictactoe in the headers, and looking for a reply in a request header :P <4> Hiding veriosn is like placign the server in a paper bag. <0> :S <0> Well... don't you think that some people would walk by that huge paper bag? <7> by exposing your serverside technology and versions, you make it much easier for a hacker to just look on a list of exploits and pick one <5> wouldn't that be a fire hazard? <4> Yeah, and wonder what's inside it. <0> ^_^ <8> What about making it so php extensions are "ASP" and reply as an IIS server (including error/404 messages) <5> Jymmm: are you accuzing KimmoA of arson? <5> accusing.... <9> Are there any (easy) ways to do searches on nested arrays? Say I have a structure like $x[]['title']='foo'; $x[]['title']='bar';, is there somethinng like array_??_exists('foo', $x['title']) ? <6> Alystair, isent there and apache module that does that? <10> I chmod a file and get a true return but the file's permissions don't change. Any idea how I can change its permissions? <0> Alystair: And give MS better stats? <5> Silliman: mod-rewrite could take care of it simply enough <11> is there a function which will convert any set of chars into something which has a capital and the rest lowercase like: "aniUNFc" would be converted to "Aniunfc"? <8> KimmoA: they could use it in presentations about how secure the servers are ;) <7> genelisp: ucfirst <0> :S <5> KimmoA: no, this way you can claim that ms stats are bunk <11> Davey: thanks - does that take a string as an argument? <6> genelisp, array_search <7> genelisp: php.net/ucfirst <10> I chmod a file and get a true return but the file's permissions don't change. Any idea how I can change its permissions? <11> Davey: ok <0> Hrm... anyone using eAccelerator in a critical production environment? <0> It finally supports PHP 5.1 now... but I don't dare to install it. <12> heh <6> ranger_, php.net/ucfirst <6> ranger_, array_search <9> ty <6> :S <13> .. ehm ..stupid question.. how do i make bold letters in email ?? <13> do they use other things as html ? <9> no, the docs at least dont mention that it can search on nested elements <6> they use html <5> HS^: basic html is used, but some people prefer simple text <13> but in mamy they filter html <9> then use mime multipart <14> HS^ a email can be 100% html... just be sure you set the Content-type of the email to text/html in the headers <13> if html is filtered, no bold is allowe?D <15> I just went out and bought The PHP5 and MySQL Bible...it better not be a bad purchase :P <5> HS^: sometimes *bold* and _italic_ work.... <5> Petecakes: i hear its foma <9> is it by Sams? <0> HS^: Never, ever send non-puretext e-mail! <15> ranger_, no. Tim Converse and Joyce Part with Clark Morgan
<15> (as per the front cover) <9> I mean the publisher <6> i have had a tidy extension installed on firefox for a time now and i only found a like 3 sites that was 100% valid :O <10> could someone help me figure out why chmod() is not modifying the permissions of a file? <15> ranger_, the publisher is Wiley <9> you might be ok then. Sams books are expensive firestarters <15> I noticed. <5> wow... what a neat cover http://media.wiley.com/product_data/coverImage/67/07645574/0764557467.jpg <13> StaZ[home] how do you set that in the mail() php function? <15> I've flicked through some of their books...they claim to make you learn languages in 24 hours and the suchlike. <5> ranger_: my intro to php was "teach yourself php in 14.5 hours" or something.... it was decent <15> My intro to PHP was Hudzilla's online tutorial... <13> wait i got it <14> HS^ check any good mail tutorial you'll see how to set headers <14> once of mail()'s params is $header <10> could someone help me figure out why chmod() is not modifying the permissions of a file? <16> my intro to php was the php documentation <17> hey guys. i have a table in database where news are stored by ids. i got mysql_query to write last three news sorted by id. now i'd like to know how would i put this texts in it's tables becouse right now, everything is just written together in one but ofcourse, i'd like that in tables rows nicely sperated. what should i do ? <10> could someone help me figure out why chmod() is not modifying the permissions of a file? <9> existance: apparently not. And asking every 30 seconds wont change that. <18> you may not have permission to change the permissions <10> ranger_ what would you suggest then/ <6> existance, waiting? <5> Matic`Makovec: huh? INSERT INTO doesn't work? <16> Matic`Makovec: I understand you saying you have news sorted by id in a mysql table but I'm not sure what you are asking at the end - perhaps you should use pastebin to show some of the code so we can see better what you are saying <13> mail($to, $subject, $message, $from, $headers); <13> what is wrong with that <10> Silliman, until when pray tell? <13> i read headers as last ?? <13> it doesnt work <18> existance: i answered you! <10> zbq, if it returns true though I thought that meant it was successful <19> i can't send mail to HOTMAIL help me please! <20> gnn; that's not a php issue <20> :P <18> you didn't mention that it was returning true <18> it is possible that at the server-level the command is blocked and php is not aware of this. you might check with your admin <15> heh.....my client is set to ping on $me*, e.g. Petecakes!...but any time someone types a variable in here starting with $me, it pings me >_< <11> is there a limit on the length a URL can be? <5> GNN-Ricardo: i've read hotmail filters some mail unless it has certain headers... google it <5> genelisp: yep, really long <17> mikere, <17> i'd like to output of SELECT nicely sorted in table <17> so it would be like <table><tr><td>news1</td></tr><tr><td>news2</td></tr>......</table> <16> Matic`Makovec: ah - that should be easy <17> becouse now, everything is just like news1news2news3.. <17> mikere, could you please give me a hint? <16> Matic`Makovec: one sec <6> Matic`Makovec, foreach? <17> i have a while sentence now <21> Well, isnt that great. The ZDE debugger seems to not understand how to display arrays in order <19> can you give me a script that work? stealth <17> but foreach would go to <19> stevarino??? <19> i'm trying to make one work have 3 days <19> without success <17> but still i don't know how to give them in different rows <16> Matic`Makovec: while($row-myqsl_fetch_array($result)){ <16> Matic`Makovec: could also use foreach as Silliman says <6> Matic`Makovec, they just use echo '<table..>' in the start and the end of the loop <17> mikere, i have <6> then* <0> So... Does anyone in here use eAccelerator (PHP cacher) in a critical production environment? It finally supports PHP 5.1 now, but I don't dare to install it. Also, are there ANY known downsides of using it? <17> while ($vrstica = mysql_fetch_array($beri, MYSQL_***OC)) <17> { <17> print $vrstica['novica']; <17> } <17> but now it's like news1news2.. <4> !+pastebin <22> Submit your code to http://hashphp.org/pastebin or http://cpp.sourceforge.net or http://php.pastebin.com then tell us the URL and a summary of the problem. Don't flood by pasting in the channel. <10> Could someone tell me if I've uploaded and used chmod correctly here : http://pastebin.com/636291 <5> GNN-Ricardo: i told you to google... top result for php mail hotmail: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum88/971.htm <6> Jymmm, isent the rule "over 5 lines use pastebin" ?
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