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<0> any suggestions?
<0> *ponders*
<1> I don't think you can submit a hidden file
<2> EyeCue: What you really mean is "Is there a way to force the client to *send* a file without having a visible front end file input field?"
<0> not force no, the upload would be initiated by the client itself
<0> calling the php script subsequently
<3> hi, is there any way to specify php_value per directory for cgi version of php? (which can be specified in .htaccess for apache module version)
<0> umm yes i do mean force?!
<0> :D
<2> EyeCue: If you don't have a file input field, it's "force"
<0> amen to that just realised
<1> EyeCue- you want a <input type="file"> that's hidden?
<2> EyeCue: The answer to that is "Not with any known browser"
<0> not with a browser
<0> more a httplib in an app
<2> Oh, sure.



<0> that supports post methods
<2> Absolutely
<0> *nods*
<0> beautiful
<4> anyone know when they will release a version of php with the latest version of gd?
<0> what mods to the upload script need to be made
<2> As long as it does the "right thing" as per the HTTP spec.
<1> gd ?
<2> EyeCue: None.
<0> oh yeh
<0> rfc of course
<4> the gd extension
<0> so i dont need a file input?
<5> sproutworks: It doesn't come with it...
<4> 2.0.33
<1> no idea what gd is
<4> php is packageed with gd
<0> and the client itself will probide the args?
<2> EyeCue: If the library follows the spec, you don't need a file input.
<0> s/probide/provide
<5> GD is the magical image extension which lets you paint with code.
<6> sproutworks: I believe you can use an external lib
<1> aaaah
<6> so, GD is paint by numbers?
<0> indeed, and other stuff
<4> gd comes with php, they just dont use the latest version, which can write animated gifs
<5> I made a dynamic scene once which fetched weather data and displayed a scene with the sun/moon and weather like it was outside my window with it. :S
<0> image minapulation, cropping, resizing (use resample, not resize ;))
<4> cool
<2> EyeCue: There's nothing "magic" about a file input. It's simply a way to tell a normal browser UA "this needs to be a file".
<5> sproutworks: No, it doesn't come with it...
<4> yes it does, if you get the full archive of it
<2> KimmoA: Yes it does
<5> Maybe for Windows...
<0> TML, how about the $_FILES array naming and such?
<4> they have included it for a long time
<0> that 'would'
<4> but they havent updated the version of it
<0> that 'would' have come from the file type=input name="HERE"
<6> sproutworks: have you tried compiling against an external gd lib?
<2> KimmoA: http://cvs.php.net/viewcvs.cgi/php-src/ext/gd/libgd/
<5> :S
<2> EyeCue: That all comes from a correctly formatted HTTP request. Nothing magic about the type of input.
<0> coolio post arg it is.
<2> KimmoA: PHP redistributes a private archive of libgd with every source tarball.
<7> zircu, you still around?
<0> php4-gd extension for the win
<5> Hmmm...
<6> EyeCue: I don't like using win
<0> win?
<0> oh, perhaps ftw would have been more appropriate :|
<2> KimmoA: Done so that PHP could have a reliable API. At one point, gd was simply too much of a moving target for our needs, and now we're addicted to shipping our own.
<5> Aha.
<0> bundles gd rocks tml, simply put.
<0> and imagemagick blows.
<0> for the record.
<2> <:O
<2> I'm in the opposite camp, myself.
<0> if you saw the lib depends o_O
<0> well, you would have
<5> So you basically have... forked... from the official GD project?



<2> KimmoA: Branched, really.
<5> s/official/original/
<2> KimmoA: We come back to the tip every so oftne
<0> just doesnt require installing gd itself.
<2> s/tne/ten/
<0> they chase gd at their own pace :D
<2> Our last update to "tip" was 2.0.22
<5> Moving target = changing a lot all the time?
<2> KimmoA: yes
<2> Changing in far-reaching ways on a regular basis
<8> Wait, somebody likes GD?
<0> resizesampled is nice anyway.
<8> Sure, it was great that they caught up with every other image library when they added it.
<0> Suffice it to say, i dont need imagemagick for mediawiki now
<0> good luck.
<8> KimmoA: Well, at least you don't have lofty requirements.
<0> phpOCR()
<5> ^_^
<0> ftw.
<2> KimmoA: There's a 17 year old kid from India who just won a large cash prize from Intel for inventing an "image binarization" algorithm that could easily be applied to break CAPTCHAs. His current algorithm has ~14% error rate, and he expects to have it down to <5% in less than a year.
<8> It's great that we're spending so much effort on captchas, rather than improving OCR in general. :P
<9> TML: any url for this report?
<2> mattmcc: Well, this is a general OCR library
<2> mattmcc: I just read the paper and thought "Hmm...that'd be quite easy to apply to CAPTCHA"
<2> bartlebee: For the image binarization algorithm?
<10> Indians are smart ^_^
<8> Ah.
<11> mattmcc, funny you should mention that, i made my own easy captcha cl*** yesterday after getting to much spam on my page
<12> TML, for that news
<2> If you an ACM subscriber, sure.
<2> I can link you right to the paper, I think.
<5> TML: Whoa..
<5> s/../.../
<9> TML: the report on the indian kid coming up with the algorithm
<11> mattmcc, do you think it's good enough to stop spam bots? http://wigen.net/captchatest.php
<4> i like gd
<4> i've made many graphics generation programs with gd
<2> http://www.nationmultimedia.com/option/print.php?newsid=30004943
<11> sproutworks, been there
<4> what kind of graphics have you done with it?
<2> "Natt's image binarisation software has a 14-per cent error rate, which he said is acceptable."
<8> The_Ball: I'm not really an OCR expert. :)
<11> i'll see if i can find one of the old images
<2> "He also compared his software with the world's best existing binarisation technique and found that his software was just 5 per cent lower in efficiency than the world's best, while it offers faster processing time and is more automated."
<9> TML: thank you
<12> TML, he ain't Indian
<2> Luckys: My bad. I was a bit fuzzy on some of the details, as I only glanced at the meta-info. I was more interested in the algorithm.
<2> I'm not ashamed to say I don't really care much about the guy who thought it up, I just want his work. :)
<13> good morning..
<13> i'm trying to do this:
<13> insert a A HREF into a php echo command.
<13> echo "<tr><td>$FID</td><td>$Starttime</td><td>$Endtime</td><td>$Fromnum</td>
<13> <td>$Tonum</td><td>$Length</td><td><A HREF='http://192.168.3.99/RecFiles/$file'>$file</A></td></tr>";;
<13> but i get nothing.
<13> empty cell
<2> !tell satlan32 about guidelines
<12> TML, where's his algorithm placed?
<14> !tell me about women
<4> gd is being transferred from it's author to being managed by php people http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-dev&m=114384428118285&w=2
<13> sorry
<14> aw, I was afraid of that
<14> how dee, TML
<13> http://pastebin.ca/60525
<2> Luckys: I found a copy of his paper as submitted to the contest inside the ACM portal.
<13> please check the line where i have the A href..
<13> i need it to link to a file in my server
<2> satlan32: What is it that you're saying is the problem, exactly?
<13> i want to know why is it not working
<13> in the field i should see the link, i see empty cell
<13> i want to know if the syntax is corret
<13> i'm new to php so any help will appreciated
<13> :)


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