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<0> :) <1> ok going back to work i speak too much on irc this morning <2> hartym thats prolly coz you only discovered it today... $var{x} specifically to me indicates that a) $var is a string and b) you're getting the x+1th char <2> $var[x] doesnt tell me jack unless i look at all the code above it <1> last word from me, if it gets deleted in PHP6 there's maybe a reason... <3> MrNaz: found the {} vs [] thing: http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html#cleanup-for-vs <2> hartym yes, because the PHP devs have proven themselves to be infallible :P </troll> <2> Elliot` thanks <2> i'll take a look <1> or because {} doesn't make sense at all :p <0> MrNaz: Do you know any other languages other than PHP? <2> hartym *shrug* nothing makes sense until you've learned it... but it seems i have been outvited in my view... <4> Stormchaser: MrNaz knows English :) <2> Stormchaser i have to admit that i do not... and i understand fully the need to comply with de facto standards <2> nonetheless i also understand that bitching on irc that the world doesnt conform to my preferences makes me feel better about that fact :)
<5> What's the easiest way to undo the character escaping PHP does for text coming from <textarea> elements? <0> MrNaz: I know many languages, and no other than PHP has the {} for accessing character index. I really thihnk it's silly <2> Stormchaser would you still think that if all other languages all used the [] for arrays and {} for strings syntax? <5> (I'm embedding a raw file editor into a script and the escaping could prove disastrous) <6> deitarion: either you disable magic_quotes (effects all input) or specifically stripslashes() on textarea input <2> moral: the world would be better if it conformed to my preference :P <5> deadroot: stripslashes() will handle \\ to \ conversions properly? <0> MrNaz: As hartym pointed out -- string is array of characters, and it's usually treated as array... <7> doubtful <7> @ MrNaz and his 'better world' <0> lol <8> MrNaz: Obviously not. <2> guys really... i wasnt serious <2> this toothbrush moushatche of mine is just coz its fashionable, honest <8> MrNaz: I am. :) <9> wooo, there's yet another webserver out there with full php support through the cgi interface :) <2> Stormchaser while i agree with everything thats been put forward, you cant really think of a string as an array... unless you think of EVERYTHING on a computer as an array <5> deadroot: I tested it myself and it does, sorry for asking such an easily answered question. <8> MrNaz: Do you now agree that string is an array of characters? <6> deitarion: np <7> php treats strings like arrays from my experience <2> tws no <2> but this is an argument of semantics <2> in fact its probably philosophical... <2> "What is an array"? <10> gah, i'm having the darndest time getting pfpro setup on my server. I've followed all of the tips in the user comments, but I still get this error when trying to build the pecl ext: <10> The pfpro extension requires version 2 or 3 of the SDK <7> characters are the bits that make up a string <7> i think then that all strings are arrays of characters <11> MrNaz: php looks a string as an array of charactars <2> guru__ well everything is an array <2> as i said <6> MrNaz: arrays aren't philosophical. ask any mathematician <11> yes if you have $t = "yes" then $t[0]="y" and so on <0> guru: *all* languages do... <2> but the name "array" is used to conceptually separate those variables that are effectively collections of related variables <8> MrNaz: If you said that everything is an array, why string is not an array of characters? <10> anyone that can help me with this pfpro issue? <2> tws oh ffs <2> i said strings are NOT an array, because by that way of thinking theres no distinction between arrays and anything else <2> nvm <7> lol <7> integers arent arrays :P <2> jiggster yes they are <2> they are arrays of bits <0> booleans aren't arrays either <2> yes they are <12> lol <0> They are? <2> they are single item arrays of bits <7> *sigh* <4> what's the diffrence between "\n" and '\n' ?? <8> MrNaz: Yourself is an array. Head, rotten brain, lung, etc. <7> you are getting lost in the depths of what simple isnt the case <0> 'nuff trolling <7> simply* <13> wow, heights of stupidty <0> !tell DavidHKMrPowers about quotes
<14> DavidHKMrPowers: '\n' wil print '\n' to the screen where "\n" will give you a carriage return :) <12> tws, "\n" is the *single* char "newline" .. while '\n' is the string made by 2 chars "\" and "n" <6> \n is not a carriage return <14> eh <14> newline <14> then <12> it is newline indeed <8> [AlberT]: Me? <14> deadroot: you're right :) <12> tws, I mean DavidHKMrPowers .. sorry <0> !+nl <15> Newlines are hidden (not normally visible) control characters that distinguish the end-of-a-line of text and are different for each platform as follows: [Windows=\r\n] [*nix=\n] [Mac=\r] And can be seen as: [LF (linefeed) = \n, 10d, 0x0A, 0001010b] [CR (carriage return) = \r, 13d, 0x0D, 0001101b] <14> common typo <4> Thanks, guys. <8> Dinner time. Later all. <12> dinner .. wow :-) <14> ghe <14> breakfast <14> later all <12> breakfast time for me :-D <14> :) <16> :) <7> bed time for me <7> 2:39 AM <7> but, i have a beer and some chips <16> uh <16> indonesia :] <7> so... the night is young <14> 10:37 AM <0> ew. <7> thats not at all healthy <7> do you know how much sugar that is? <12> JoshX, your clock is 2 mins late :-) <7> *me feels ill* <14> Stormchaser: you want some 'Goat"MILK"' ? <11> drinking coke 1 ltr everyday will dissolve all your bones <0> guru__: No, it won't <10> can anyone help me with pfpro? PUHLEAZE?! it would be oh so kind. if not, oh well. <7> lol <14> 1 Feb 10:40:36 ntpdate[27885]: adjust time server 212.79.246.3 offset -0.052648 sec <14> is not <11> after some period of time <7> guru__: wrong... :P <4> guru__ : really? i've done that for more than 3 months <11> if you take it continuously <14> ah ok <14> [AlberT]: i see where i went wrong :) <11> ok <12> :-) <7> i win <7> 1 Feb 02:41:17 ntpdate[4345]: step time server 136.159.2.2 offset -0.043939 sec <7> smallest diff so far <0> guru: Um... liquid that you drink and bones aren't connected to eachother <14> :( <4> guru__ : :) <14> jiggster: i ntpsync every 5 minutes <14> jiggster: VMware virtual machine has a TERRIBLE clock problem <7> JoshX: i couldnt tell you when this thing crons <14> jiggster: like 12 minutes/hour or so <7> i know one of my gentoo boxes is terrible for time skew <7> and it's not on VM :P <14> hehe <7> hmm i havent checked it <14> anyway <7> oh well not a priority right now <14> shower and breakfast <14> later <7> ttyl <17> Hi, anyone knows if I can use "windows integrated authentication" with php 4 and iis 6? I am having aleatory problems using it... <7> dear lord <7> 1 Feb 02:46:43 ntpdate[2349]: step time server 136.159.2.2 offset -43.307603 sec
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