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<0> ForceArray isn't working worth crap. after I use Dumper to print out part of the tree, it's not an array
<1> dude
<1> check the ref
<2> hi Daveman!
<1> that's what i am doing
<1> nopaste?
<1> http://rafb.net/paste/results/e52JQy36.html
<3> The paste e52JQy36 has been moved to http://sial.org/pbot/17470
<0> just a sec.
<4> 13 is a lucky number
<1> use XML::Simple qw(:strict);
<1> i left that part out on the paste
<0> heh, note to self: if you use cachable with XML::Simple and don't delete the .stor file, it ignores your options and just reads the cached version.
<5> hmm. does $poe_kernel->delay($state => $seconds => @etc) take into consideration what's in @etc about determining "same"?
<0> hence why my new ForceArray wasn't working
<0> thanks all



<6> merlyn: what?
<5> well - ->delay(foo => 3) clears a previous ->delay(foo => 5) if that hasn't fired yet
<5> but would ->delay(foo => 3, "hey", "there") clear a previous ->delay(foo => 5, "what", "is this");
<5> that's what I need to know
<6> it clears any previous delays for the event foo
<5> regardless of the extra payload?
<6> yep
<5> Hmm. less useful then
<6> use the new delay interface then
<7> which perl module can i use to strip the html markup tags, leaving only the text? tried HTML::Strip, but found this was too lossy when dealing with HTML that has CSS/JS. also tried HTML::PullParser, but I haven't yet figured out how to extract only the textual contents
<6> jade; $text =~ s/<[^>]+?>//g; :)
<8> jade: What do you mean by 'too lossy'? You want to keep the CSS/JS?
<9> merlyn: No, sameness is based on the event name only.
<8> jade: (Is there actually something in particular you are trying to capture from your original HTML?)
<10> btw, woggle++ (Google SoC)
<7> woggle, with HTML::Strip some of the text between the tags is stripped out as well for example, <h1 cl***="myh1style">title</h1>
<11> i'm having trouble creating functions that update some elements in an array
<11> the problem is that i want to index into the array to bind at function creation time, but instead it late-binds to whatever the last value for the index was (in that scope)
<5> OK - so ->delay_add
<12> "ericP" at 82.247.112.136 pasted "late-binding index (variable) problem in lamda functions" (18 lines, 364B) at http://sial.org/pbot/17471
<11> i'm looking for a way to modify 17471 so i get the obvious desired output {0,1,2}
<7> woggle, I am trying to capture the product description from all of the other text that appears on product pages, e.g. www.amazon.com/cool_book
<11> oooh, look, my pbot entry is a palandrome
<5> so ->delay(some_event => 0) is unlike ->yield(some_event =>) because only one of the first kind will ever be thrown, but a hundred of the second will trigger 100 calls
<5> interesting
<8> ericP: for my $i (0..(MAX-1)) { ... }
<8> ericP: Or something else that creates a new variable for each iteration of the loop
<13> Hello. Is it possible to reverse a string using regexp?
<10> Joti: perldoc -f reverse
<3> reverse. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc -f reverse'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/reverse.html
<11> woggle, trying...
<13> I need a regexp, PerlJam . I'm going to use it in a PHP script
<14> hahahaha
<10> Joti: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.strrev.php
<8> Joti: (1) Regexps are frequently not the best or even an advisible solution to an arbitrary text manipulation problem; (2) Perl regexps aren't quite the same as PCRE.
<13> Oh, never thought of that. Thanks, PerlJam
<10> Joti: Until you show me some real reason it *needs* to be a regular expression, I'm just going to keep spouting the obvious answers :)
<13> I see woggle
<7> imMute, doesnt strip all of the special characters and markup that appears in the HTML, e.g. &nbsp; or <script language="javascript">h_position(1);</script>
<13> Last time I needed it for Perl, and for some stupid reason I asked specifically for a regexp, I have some weird belief that all string manipulation is done by regexp
<10> Joti: extirpate that idea immediately
<13> Already done
<8> jade: I cannot replicate the <h1 ...> issue.
<11> PerlJam, actually, a friend's friend just died -- busy
<10> ericP: bummer
<15> Logistix Question: I need to do 5 separate db queries and use the results inside qq{ $results1, $results2 etc}; Is there a better way of achieving this rather than using 5 lots of query code?
<8> perlmonkey: (1) If you're naming variable $foo1, $foo2, $foo3, etc. you probably should be using an array instead.
<10> perlmonkey: If the queries are substantially similar, you might be able to use placeholders.
<15> they are very similiar
<16> i'm trying to remove a perl module (Mail::Spam******in). can anyone guide me through the process?
<7> woggle, OK, let me paste bin the situation, thanks.
<8> And if they somehow aren't similar enough for placeholders, then you can obviously generate the similar queries programmically.
<5> yeah - almost any $variableMumble3 is the sign that something is wrong
<10> morten: man rm
<15> cool
<5> you shouldn't have "3" of anything. :)
<10> morten: or if on Windows, "help del" or somesuch
<16> PerlJam: i'm on debian. are you saying i should just manually delete the directories in question?
<10> morten: I am indeed.
<8> Unless you installed said package with some package management fu, yes.



<16> groovy.
<8> (Though CPANPLUS has this uninstall feature...)
<17> so does portage
<10> woggle: does it work?
<8> So I've been told.
<10> CPAN had an uninstall feature at one time too you know :)
<16> PerlJam: now, i'm removing this because i'm completely out of my league here, and it just feels safer to install it from apt-get instead. would it be stupid to just install with apt-get over the perl install?
<16> it's the same program, right, so wouldn't it just place the same files in the same locations?
<8> At least I've been told it works for 'normal' modules.
<8> ... that you installed with CPANPLUS.
<10> morten: using apt-get is good. installing over the existing installing is probably not good.
<10> er, s:2nd/installing/installation/
<16> okay. how do i know which directories to remove?
<10> perl6++ :-)
<10> morten: start with perldoc -l Main::Spam******in
<10> er, Mail
<10> pretend I wrote the right thing and do that :)
<16> thanks PerlJam. i'm on the mother****er.
<12> "jade" at 64.166.248.24 pasted "HTML::Strip lossy for special case HTML/CSS tags" (27 lines, 535B) at http://sial.org/pbot/17472
<8> jade: Uh, I was hoping for a testcase that didn't contact the net and was minimal. (;
<7> lol
<18> perlbot, karma perl6
<19> Karma for perl6: -2
<18> hahaha
<7> woggle, I thought that was minimal
<8> The minimal test case will have the shortest HTML you can get that breaks HTML::Strip.
<10> perl6++ for making the "rules v. ****s" metric obsolete ;)
<7> woggle, I am slightly lazy
<8> So am I.
<10> jade: not lazy enough.
<8> Unfortunately for you, I don't care that much about solving your problem. (;
<10> jade: were you appropriately lazy, you wouldn't have to generate *another* test case for woggle to help you with.
<7> lol
<8> The ideal minimal test case is easily turned into a test case for HTML::Strip's test suite.
<20> How does one make a shell sentence coloured/bolded/underlined?
<8> Tom_Beers: See Term::ANSIColor
<20> OK, thanks.
<16> PerlJam: perldoc -l Mail::Spam******in returned '/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/Mail/Spam******in.pm'
<16> what do i do with this newfound information?
<21> <input type="text" name="suffix"> Makes $ARGS{suffix} into an array ref on the submitted page, why is that? (I'm using Mason)
<17> morten: delete that file
<14> GumbyBRAIN: explain nethack
<22> I'm just trying to give a ring around but they still haven't got into nethack.
<16> stuuf: is that all i need to do to uninstall spam******in?
<20> Although, I have a perl script that can do it, but doesn't use any modules, how does it do that?
<23> perlbot: module uninstall
<23> perlbot: uninstall modules
<23> perlbot: uninstall
<19> http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html#How_delete_Perl_modules
<23> \o/
<16> for me?
<7> woggle, this test case (e.g. '<h1 cl***="tBlue">Asics Gel-Solutions&#153;</h1>'), which causes breakage is not so easy to reproduce because it is not specifically this sequence of tag, but the context HTML it appears it. I have not narrowed it down because it is a big detour to my work, and I don't have budget to fix broken perl packages!
<23> erm .. probably, morten
<16> BinGOs: i tried that earlier. 'perl -w' just freezes :(
<23> That's the safest way. Milage will vary.
<16> BinGOs: i believe you. but if i can't even run perl, i'm not getting very far. seeing as that is the very first step.
<16> so how do i make this work, if i can't even run perl?
<16> it skipped a line, and i've just got a caret. no prompt or anything. it's just sitting there :(
<24> what does perl -v give you?
<16> some general info
<16> version etc
<25> well then you can run perl :)
<24> let me scroll up, I missed the start of this conversation
<25> "perl -w" doesn't "just freeze"; it's waiting for input. Check perldoc perlrun if you want to know why :)
<3> perlrun - Perl execution and options. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perlrun'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlrun.html
<16> hobbs: so i'm just supposed to type in the stuff it says in this faq here?
<25> What?
<16> frankly, i don't understand half of it. which is why i shouldn't have installed this module in the first place. could you walk me through it?
<16> http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html#How_delete_Perl_modules
<24> how did you install the module?


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