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<0> damn pedestals. :)
<1> merlyn: nah, they usually quote Randall
<1> you're absolved thereby.
<2> merlyn: my sig once read: "Tcl is LISP on Drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions is Evil with one of these gigantic E's you see at the beginnings of chapters."
<3> I once emailed Bjarne Stroustrup and told him that C++ was a bag on the side of C
<0> I'm still feeling the heat from both sides for my OSCON "openly hostile" to Perl comment.
<1> merlyn: haven't heard it. suppose I could google it.
<4> merlyn: that just proves your point :P
<1> yup, there it is.
<0> I mean, apparently, it's ok for me to have the opinion, as long as I don't say it in public. But I didn't think I was saying it in public.
<0> I thought I was saying it to people who had also experienced some of the same problem.
<1> I see your statement and its context, and I'd have to say I agree in general.
<0> Agree with me, or agree that I'm full of ****? :)
<1> I agree that OSCON is less and less perlish
<5> merlyn, I missed the original comment (OSCON hostile to perl) - is there somewhere I can read it? I'd like to make up my own mind........
<1> Perl needs a prophet.
<0> I also have experienced the frustration of having people come up to me in the hallways at OSCON saying "why aren't you on the program?"
<1> odrm: you can read his explanation of it here...
<6> japhy: what about Larry Wall
<0> and yet I submit 15 proposals a year, and last year the only one that got accepted was on the general track about spam fighting
<0> that's frustrating
<1> http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/29714
<5> japhy, thank you
<7> i'm having trouble getting cpan to put together the perl GD package
<0> so that's my sense of "openly hostile"
<0> the most widely published Perl author cannot *get* a paper accepted at "the perl conference"
<0> that's amazingly shortsighted
<7> this is on an FC5 box, i have the gd rpm and gd-devel rpm installed.
<0> so - fine, I'll be a sponsor of YAPC then
<3> Perl is the most powerful programming language ever devised by the mind of Man
<3> and you can quote me on that
<7> and they're on version 2.0.33
<3> I think somebody already has
<8> <3> Perl is the most powerful programming language ever devised by the mind of Man
<3> jeek =)
<8> QFT
<0> Teratogen is a quote-seeker, and you can quote me on that
<0> In fact, you can double-quote me on that!
<8> <0> Teratogen is a quote-seeker, and you can quote me on that
<0> Thanks Jeek
<7> can anyone help me?
<3> I'll back-quote you on that
<0> What I need now is to have someone back-quote me
<0> oops!
<3> hah!
<9> 2301 jeek> <0> Teratogen is a quote-seeker, and you can quote me on that
<3> time for my medz.
<0> Redhat(e) is dangerous
<2> NET||abuse: what happens when you download the module and run perl Makefile.PL ; make; make install
<2> ?
<0> if you've installed Perl stuff from RPM, you should stick with that
<2> s/make install/make test; make install/
<0> not using the CPAN.pm module
<7> rindolf, i'm just using the cpan env
<7> install GD
<7> and one sec i'll get you the messages
<0> there's almost certainly a Perl GD Module RPM
<2> NET||abuse: yes, but did you try to install it manually.
<2> NetBandit: use the pastebot, please.
<2> perlbot: paste
<10> Paste your code and #perl will be able to view it: http://sial.org/pbot/perl http://dragon.cbi.tamucc.edu:8080 http://erxz.com/pb
<11> hi all. need some help with mod_perl. I have a perl script that in turn runs fairly long process aprox 2min. and I need to then display the output of that process to the browser. My problem is is that the browser timeouts even though the script is still executing. Is there a way to force the browser to not time out with this specific perl script?
<0> crashdummyMCH, google for "site:stonehenge.com traceroute"
<0> I wrote a column on that
<7> bascially it has alot of warnings. about 'not_there' defined but not used
<0> ignore the "traceroute" - it's the unique keyword in that column
<7> hmm, ok, i'll look for perl gd pacakge instead
<0> that was just my example of "long running process"
<0> in general, one strategy of "I have a $x problem with Perl" is to google for "$keywords_from_x site:stonehenge.com" :)
<0> for example I think "long-running web" would have also gotten the same page
<3> how much have you been offered for the domain name "stonehenge.com", merlyn?
<7> crap, it's outputting about 20 million packages..
<0> I've never had a serious offer.
<11> merlyn: thanks
<3> and to think, some guy I know basically gave away budweiser.com
<11> merlyn: i'll have to read through your script a bit to understand what exactly you're doing....
<7> thanks rindolf.. you put me on the right track to solve the problem
<3> he kept beer.com though, and got a tidy sum for it
<0> I got into trouble for accepting what they believed was a rediculously high offer from the England Antiquities Board, or whoever it is that owns the original stonehenge
<2> NET||abuse: yum install perl-GD
<0> they used my initial acceptance of their offer as proof that i was merely squatting
<3> oho
<3> the bastards.
<0> I had to go to the arbitration to show that no, this is what it would really be worth to me, because I have been using it in commerce since 95.
<7> rindolf, already finished
<0> luckily, we settled before it went to WIPO.
<12> merlyn: well, that's what the URDP says.
<3> I have slashsnot.org
<7> rindolf, :) thanks a mill for the ***ist though
<3> slashdot hasn't contacted me yet =(
<6> I've learnt alot today, thanks to everyone for giving me a bit of help
<12> at least for .com and .org
<0> but there was a scary period of about two months where I thought I woudl lose the domain because of stupid moves on our part.
<6> merlyn: what happened?
<0> perlmonkey - scroll up
<6> ok
<0> I jus ttold the whole story :)
<0> there's nothing else to tell.
<3> I have intertwingled.net too
<3> nobody wants that
<8> merlyn: Oh really? Do go on..
<0> Hmm. time to jump in the shower so I can get to work by 7am
<0> I've been in the building of $client from 7am to 7pm for nearly 9 work weeks
<6> merlyn: that would be the National Heritage Trust
<0> I'm really getting drained on this project, but it's an interesting and challenging project.
<0> Yes. the NHT>
<0> that's right
<5> turn $client into $$$$$client, and it'll be more fun
<6> phew
<0> they have stonehenge.co,uk, I think
<6> when did you register that domain??
<0> 1995
<0> or earlier.
<0> I can't recall.
<6> so do they want it off you now, or?
<0> this entanglement was a few years ago
<0> so "now" doesn't apply
<0> I was recounting a historical event
<0> perlmonkey - please to be reading the scrollback
<6> they cant presume to have control over the domain name because they have control over the historic site eh
<0> 30 jun 1994
<6> ok
<0> actually - I think I had it before that too
<0> I'd have to look for the earlierst "merlyn@stonehenge.com" posting
<6> you like ancient historic things I guess
<0> I think the whois doesn't reflect grandfathered-in dates from the old system.
<0> Hmm. I guess it does. it shows sri.com going hback to 1986
<0> & shower
<6> hehe you still have it
<0> argh someone in there.
<6> why hasnt the NHT showered you in money already
<0> so I have to wait
<0> perlmonkey - I can't sell it, that's the point
<6> its important to you commercially?
<0> it's *all over* the net. I'd lose too much rebuilding that kind of linkage
<6> ahh yes
<0> dude - I've been merlyn@stonehenge.com since 1994.
<0> all the way through the dot-com boom
<6> what about some arrangement? cant you do mod_rewrite on your urls?
<0> perlmonkey - please to be reading the story AGAIN
<0> there's no problem to solve here.
<0> this all happened a few years ago
<6> ok
<6> wasnt me
<0> stonehenge.net was originally Stonehenge Internet Services of Colorado
<0> and to no end of my troubles
<0> since they couldn't get stonehenge.com, they got henge.com
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