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<0> damn, only now I'm thinking of all the evil Perl examples for the interview questions
<1> thrig: I heard you were interviewing with tag!
<0> nah, just p***ing by
<2> weird, this perl script isn't as bad as I thought
<2> it only ever uses 51% of the CPU time
<3> buu: he didn't interview with me, just at my company
<2> could excessive disk accesses be the other problem?
<1> MrBIOS: Is it dual cpu?
<2> or mysql queries
<2> buu, unfortunately not
<2> very unfortunately
<3> buu: He's an ops/admin kind of guy, so I wouldn't have had anything to do with the interview
<0> MrBIOS: top? vmstat?
<1> Wacky.
<4> "very unfortunately" is grammatically wrong. :P
<2> s/ly//g
<2> happy? :)
<5> what is grammatically wrong about "very unfortunately"?
<5> :)
<6> You should use something more like "not very fortunate", or "it was very unfortunate"
<6> I believe..
<5> it does not _look_ good, I agree.
<7> it doesn't sound right, but I can't see anything wrong with it.
<5> looks clumsy
<8> You can't use an adjective to describe an adverb .. the adverb describes the verb already
<7> it's an adv. modifying an adv.
<8> actually yeah, very is an adverb, not an adjective
<5> heh
<7> very is an adverb, as is "unfortunately", unfortunately is modifying the implied verb to-be.
<7> i don't see a problem :)
<5> can you recommend a printed grammar of the English language?
<2> waiting, what is your native language?
<8> waiting: strunk + white (iirc .. it's on the shelf here someplace)
<8> Probably English. The worlds worst English speakers are those that speak it natively.
<0> waiting: ISBN 020530902X ?
<7> true, but doesn't make it less sad.
<5> oh thank you that looks interesting
<5> .)
<7> s/doesn't/that doesn't/
<8> if your looking for a book its proberbly on amazon.
<9> yeah, proberbly
<0> dang, where is my Strunk & White. hmmm
<7> ugh, i just saw code using the Socket module...
<7> it's ugly
<8> (I always forget that Strunk and White is actually titled 'Elements of Style' .. everyone always just calls it Strunk & White)
<0> hence my using the isbn number
<5> I heard about it back at school, too.
<5> ^^
<8> thrig: You're suggesting that it's *easier* to remember the ISBN than the title?
<8> (and of course, that ISBN is just one edition)
<0> it's easier for me to lookup (max. 13 + isbn characters to type)
<3> thrig: did they make you an offer?
<8> LOL .. there's an 'illustrated' version .. wtf?
<0> opt+shift+t for Terminal.app, maybe a rotate to a free terminal, 'ow isbn #'
<0> tag: later. I'm interviewing elsewhere tomorrow
<8> LOL .. the 'illustrated' seems to refer to random artwork
<5> Woosta: you are looking at amazone.com, too? ^^
<8> yeah
<0> speaking of which
<3> well, we do have a cool shop, real laid back...the office is generally empty before 10:30
<0> bah, half days
<0> 1/3 days being when you leave at 5
<3> bah?
<3> well, might be different for ops...personally, I like that. Because I can come in at 9:00 and get alot of **** done without being interrupted.
<0> except when nosey interviewees wander by
<0> ops are usually more interrupt driven (esp. when on call)
<10> how does the open( "gzip .. " ) thing work?
<10> does it copy the file to a temp directory, and then gunzip it?
<3> thrig: that's true.
<10> and then open the file?
<0> jonx: strace gzip and find out
<3> See, I don't really care for ops
<0> what are you trying to do?
<3> type of positions
<3> they are a pain in the *** if you ask me
<3> you not only have to manage a work load, but also manage a myriad of on demand requests, and still meet the deadlines for your workload
<3> personally, the only thing I have to worry about is how long QA is going to take
<10> thrig, how would i strace it?
<0> strace -o ~/calls gzip ..
<0> again, what are you asking about?
<10> thrig, me?
<0> sure, why not
<10> :)
<10> thrig, i am converting a script from perl to C, and in the perl script, it does something like... open( FH, "gzip < myFile.txt.gz" )
<10> i am wondering if it copies the gzip file somewhere before gunzipping it
<0> perhaps, you would need to read the manual for gzip or strace it
<2> man this server is annoyingly slow
<0> or ask the fine folks in #gzip
<2> 1.8GHz Celeron
<10> well what exactly does open (.. "gzip .. " ) do?
<10> it seems more like a perl thing
<10> some sort of special syntax
<0> looks more like a Ugly Shell Call
<0> my 2.2GHz Celeron is quite bored, and fast, running mod_perl and some XML crud
<10> hmm..
<0> uh, why is a gzip'ed file being gziped? who wrote this code?
<2> thrig, takes 5.9 seconds to just get a list back from a database
<2> it's all perl code overhead
<0> memcached it
<2> the actual rdbms query takes 100ms or so
<2> thrig, how do I do so?
<0> get thee henceforth to google
<2> getting myself henceforth
<0> though that does seem quite slow
<2> eek http://www.danga.com/memcached/
<2> thrig, nearly 2 seconds is spent doing HTML parsing
<2> of templates and the like
<0> that's no fun
<2> this is a sort-of document management/content-management system over a database
<0> granted, I stick squid in front and make my pages cacheable
<2> I just needed ammo to go to the developer with
<11> http://www.thyla.com/fan-art.html
<0> what template system?
<12> Hi, I am getting an error with a perl scipt: Can't locate /home/search/lib/perl/SecureCGI.pm in @INC. The path to the file exists and the user runing the script has access to that file.
<12> How do I add to @INC with out modifying the script itself?
<0> perlbot: set inc?
<13> to change @INC (perldoc perlvar), recompile perl, or set the PERLLIB or PERL5LIB environment variable (perldoc perlrun), or use the -I option to perl (perldoc perlrun), or 'use lib' (perldoc lib) or fiddle with @INC (not recommended)
<14> perlvar - Perl predefined variables. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perlvar'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlvar.html
<1> jonx: Why the hell are you converting perl to c?
<15> FASTAR
<2> thrig, its own template system
<11> buu: It'll make it FASTAH
<11> buu: FASTAH!!!
<0> why? there's like 10,000 already on CPAN
<2> thrig, legacy. This thing is old.
<0> ahh, dead rot
<2> thrig, commercial product.
<2> thrig, reading about memcached, I seriously doubt it will net me anything at all
<0> prolly not in this context
<16> merlyn: you wouldn't happen to be a little old lady then?
<4> GumbyBRAIN, old lady
<17> is it using one name. In the other lady.
<16> GumbyBRAIN: eggzeck
<17> i'm going to happen.
<16> heh
<16> well i need sleep i haven't gotten much if any in the past few days
<4> g'night
<18> Oh god no....the da vinci code game?!
<19> who
<20> well, obviously
<20> just wait till they release the da vinci condoms with tom hanks' friendly face on the front.
<5> :D
<5> I really wonder _how_ NetBSD managed to include perl5 witthout GDBM_File
<21> waiting: it has DB_File instead
<21> GDBM is GNU
<5> sphex: but if I install database/gdbm and then rebuild lang/perl5, there is no option to activate it :/
<21> waiting: databases/p5-gdbm
<5> if I install database/p5-gdbm it wants to downgrade to perl 5.6.1
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