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<0> rmah, how do I *tell* when the process terminated, because AFAIK it has
<0> and still, nothing
<1> kill apache
<0> manually?
<1> yes
<2> pull the trigger!
<0> I don't know which process served up the event, rmah
<1> or /etc/init.d/apache stop
<1> erm, yet again
<3> uhh, single thread. single user is something else, maybe check eHarmony.com?
<2> slip of the home row
<3> well, single process for <2.0
<1> keep it on the sunny side, dude
<0> rmah, that doesn't seem much better
<2> always on the sunny side.
<1> meaing?
<0> rmah, nothing in any of those dirs even after stopping the apache service
<0> this is not what the documentation says
<2> and then restart using the -X option
<0> cfedde, why do that?
<0> I would prefer not to use -X
<1> why?
<0> because it's not the right way
<1> sure it is
<0> it's your cheap, hackish way
<1> haha
<3> use -X to debug. no, really.
<0> thrig, why?
<3> because I said so!
<0> I don't want to debug, I just want to profile the mother****er
<2> I'm a cheap hacker? Is that what you're calling me? a cheap hacker!
<2> MrBIOS: them's fighting words!
<0> cfedde, perhaps, but I prefer to use the damn module the way it's suposed to be used
<1> MrBIOS: that's sort of debugging... you're debugging performance problems
<0> sure, whatever :)
<0> semantics
<2> MrBIOS: You have gone a bit over the top on this. If you like I'll keep trying to push your buttons.
<4> MrBIOS: Have you used the profiler?
<0> avar, no, I'm trying to
<0> to no avail
<4> how are you running it?
<0> it's created these lovely empty directories
<2> apparently you don't yet know how to use it.
<2> Make your problem simpler by running it in the forground till you understand how it works.
<2> then make your problem more complex
<0> avar, it's in my apache.pl file
<2> but only after you understand how to run it in the simple case.
<0> cfedde, I understand how it works, it's just not doing what the documantation says it does
<2> you sir, are an ***.
<0> avar, use Devel::Profiler::Apache;
<0> cfedde, dude, I can read
<0> I'm literate, the last time I checked
<0> docs say <foo> yet <foo> does not occur
<0> therefore, <foo> is incorrect
<5> how do I tell when a program has quit?
<0> cfedde, please tell me how that is presumptuous
<6> is there a way to turn off truncation using commands? in the GUI i could just check it off, but i can't do it in the console
<3> bluebeard_: any process? a child? on unix?
<6> oops
<6> wrong room sorry
<5> on unix, I've got it's PID
<3> kill with signal 0
<5> no
<3> no?
<5> while(programisalive){
<7> while( kill 0, $PID ) { # although this isn't all that great
<5> oh
<3> you probably want a sleep somewhere, too
<5> haha
<5> I thought that kill was sending it a signal
<5> well of course I'd have it sleep.
<8> damn
<3> didn't read perldoc -f kill did you?
<9> kill. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc -f kill'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/kill.html
<5> no
<5> :(
<2> MrBIOS: I have no idea in what way you have misunderstood the documentaton. But calling those who have attempted to help you names will be counter productive. Thank you for your time. I have nothing more to say on the topic.
<0> cfedde, names? hah. lighten up, buddy.
<8> i want to play this game (and a few others) but i don't want to reinstall windows...
<5> wine?
<5> cedega?
<3> whine on IRC?
<8> wine/cedega are currently unable to play them
<5> lol
<5> wait?
<5> hack wine?
<8> what?
<0> simcop2387, which games?
<8> Civ4, Fable, and a playstation 2 emulator and DNF
<3> multitasking, eh?
<0> cfedde, besides, I called nobody a name
<0> I cannot start apache with -X
<0> it fails
<8> i wish qemu supported agp sharing to the guests i'd add a pci video card for X (for most things) and then use qemu as a KVM
<0> with Invalid command 'PerlOptions', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
<3> <vadar>Noooooooooo</vadar>
<8> MrBIOS: sounds like mod_perl isn't setup
<8> and no i don't know how to set it up, my distro did it for me
<3> apt-get install baby-burper
<0> simcop2387, it works fine when I use the init script
<3> well! what does the init script do differently?
<0> thrig, with all due respect, how should I know?
<0> I've never run apache with -X before
<8> baby-burper?
<8> MrBIOS: try reading them?
<10> Greetings everyone :)
<3> MrBIOS: read the init script, see what it sources in, how it runs the daemon
<3> see if any funky -f or perhaps -C or -c or -D used
<0> thrig, it's not loading mod_perl when I run apache -X
<3> oh, no!
<3> you mean httpd -X ?
<0> yes, my bad
<3> try adding a -C or -c or -D to include it, perhaps. Been a while since I've used -X to debug
<0> right, the script calls it with a bunch of -D arguments
<0> so many that it doesn't show up in ps actually
<0> runs off the edge of the terminal
<0> any way I can see all those
<3> ps -ef, ps ww, ps -o command ...
<0> no way to make it wrap
<11> ps auxwwwwwwwwww
<11> ps auxwwwwwwwwww | grep httpd
<0> that works
<11> love those multiple width arguments
<0> okay, now it runs with -X
<12> who was mucking about with NFS in here recently having "reason given by server: Permission denied" errors? buu?
<3> buu.
<12> infi: `ps auxwwwwwwww | less` is nice too, to be able to scroll around :)
<12> buu! did you get it fixed?
<3> and, perhaps, jshriver, who has been very quiet
<3> or less -S
<3> and maybe also f, depending on the ps
<11> dec: yeah, but he only needed one line ..
<12> that too thrig.
<12> infi - oh, I didn't read any context into it. :)
<13> Anyone know of a good site explaining what type of antennas are more practical for different scenarios
<3> pgrep -lf is also spiffy, if you have it
<0> thrig, it runs with -X, is there something else I ahve to add to enable profiling there?
<0> ECarroll, I ***ume you are referring to 2.4GHz antennas and ***uming everyone can read your mind?
<3> no idea, never used profiling (though I saw Catalyst had that built in when I was messing with it)
<13> MrBIOS: or 5.x ghz antennas
<0> ECarroll, they are not the same, nor are the propogation characteristics of 5.x GHz frequencies anything like those of 2.4GHz frequencies
<13> MrBIOS: I also want to know if a 15dbi antenna is better than a 3, and what type of power and altitutde these beasts need
<3> -X was, oh, 510+X days since the power issue ago, so it's been a while since I've touched mod_perl
<13> MrBIOS: THATS WHY I AM LOOKING FOR A WEB SITE EXPLAINING IT. =[
<0> ECarroll, http://www.telexwireless.com/wireless/faq.nsf/cat!ReadForm&RestrictToCategory=Radio%20Propagation
<14> MrBIOS's url is at http://xrl.us/mu8a
<0> ECarroll, found that in 10 secs with google
<0> is there any way to make apache log stuff to stdout or stderr in -X mode?
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